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post #31 of 48
My cats are mainly indoor only cats. They will go out once in awhile but not for long! I don't like the idea of them getting hit by a car, killed by another animal, stolen, or poisoned. that's why mine mainly stay indoors only. I will not let them out at all. My parents do sometimes but i have no control of that since I live with them but they are 99.9 % indoors only and I wouldn't have it any other way. If they sneak out I am totally on their tail because we live by a busy street. I think it's a personal preference but I think cats live happier and healthier inside. Same with dogs! all of our dogs are indoor dogs. I dont believe in having a dog outside at all 24/7. when we go somewhere the cats and dogs are ALWAYS inside. but Dogs need exercise and mine for sure get that when I walk them and play with them outdoors.
post #32 of 48
In most parts of the US, it is absolutely the right decision to keep cats indoors or finagle some way to do outdoors only under supervision (Zissou, for instance, loves to go to the public parks here on her leash).

You have to remember that, as you said, a majority of members here are from the US, where we have rabies, a lot more natural predators, a lot more cars, and sadly more people who think it is "fun" to do terrible cruel things to cats. Most of us understand the differences in the UK, and maybe some people don't, but try to look at it from their side-- here we are trying hard to convince our neighbors not to let their declawed cat out in their tiny yard on a busy street, and to us it looks like you might be in the same situation.

That, and the lifespan of outdoor cats is significantly reduced. We have enough problems trying to get cats spayed/neutered, and if everyone would keep them in... well, we wouldn't have to kill so many poor innocents just cause there's no place for them.

That said, if you live in an area with few cars (or a very low speed limit), no predators, your cat has claws and was let out from kittenhood on, has a tendency not to stray too far, then it's a personal decision. I would say this in the US too, but that is true of very few households here.
post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by AbbysMom View Post
One thing our members need to keep in mind when replying to posts such as yours is the cultural and geographical differences. Many shelters in the UK will not adopt to anyone that states the cat will be an indoor only cat. You must provide outdoor access for the cat and they will do a home check at times. That's the bottom line. You may or may not agree with it, but that is how it is and you must be respectful of the difference in culture.

If anyone feels they are being attacked in a thread, please remember you have the option to report the post. You can do so by clicking the exclamation point in the red triangle that can be found in the upper right-hand corner of the post. Please do not respond to the perceived attack. Let the Mods handle it. That's what we're here for.
Emphasis added. I live in a semi-rural area of Germany, and the vast majority of the area shelters will only adopt out indoor/outdoor cats. Although I've had cats all my life, Jamie is the first "indoor-only" cat we've had, and he -- isn't. He's trained to a leash, and I take him for a 30 - 60 minute walk every day (often longer), because he attacks other cats, and can't be trusted alone outdoors. The only reason I'm not in violation of his adoption contract is that I got him from a cat rescue organization in the metropolis where I work, and that organization prefers that "big city cats" be kept indoors only.We don't live in the big city, and since he wasn't adopted from a local shelter, his outdoor access can be "regulated" as I see fit, taking his needs and behavior into consideration.

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Originally Posted by mom2raven View Post
(I am not judging). I think that the stance of the catsite (although I do not know where to find this) is to keep cats indoors.
TCS is against declawing. Although some rather vociferous posters might leave you with the impression that TCS is against allowing cats access to the great outdoors, that's not the case. Our membership is international, with rural, suburban and urban inhabitants, and country-based "norms", so any such pronouncements are personal opinions only.
post #34 of 48
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Originally Posted by bengalsmum View Post
I wouldnt dream of keeping my children cooped up in the house, if they wanted to play out nor can i watch them 24/7 its the same with my 2 cats they are let out and in when they please and have a happy balance.Yes one of them is hurt due to being poisoned outdoors...
This is how others might feel: Would you dream of letting your own (or any) young toddler children roam in the neighborhood all alone and hope for the best? Across streets? Would you let the young children mix with bullies and be bullied and turn a blind eye to your own's suffering? I see your cat was poisoned and you are still thinking it is alright to let them outside? What if the cat dies? Can you see why some might, just maybe, object to that when it could have been prevented and if it happens once it can and probably will happen again? It isn't that cats shouldn't go outside at all, it is that they should be watched or in a secure area if you decide to let them due to the dangers, and those dangers are endless if you are a cat in the US...humans, cars, other animals, wild animals, busy streets, parasites, and so on.
post #35 of 48
i agree w/pretty much everything everyone's posted.
sometimes it's quite hard to truly understand something that's only written. we're a verbal species, but we're used to also listening to vocal tone, seeing facial expressions, etc.
i've had people respond to comments of mine that were in no way meant in the way they were taken. that's a problem when it's written, not spoken.
like i said in your thread about your sweet sickly boy - locality makes a difference. mine are indoor only, will stay that way - they're used to it. they have 4 cat trees, loads of toys, & 4 other cats to play with. 4 were rescues [2 strays, 2 kittens] & only one of those has ever gone out since moving in w/me - & she came back in almost immediately!
if your area is safe [only you can make that decision] & you want to let your cats have outdoor access, that's your decision. i live in town, only a few feet from a road [not busy, but cars do drive down it!] plus there are dogs that roam the neighborhood. it's not safe for my cats to go out alone.
just like there are shelters in Europe that won't adopt to 'indoor only' homes, most here in the States won't adopt to 'indoor/outdoor' homes. countries differ. just take that into account.
post #36 of 48
I would never let gizmo outside because there's too many threats to risk it. I sometimes wish he could roam around outside but i know I'll never put him out. He seems perfectly content to just sit by the widow watching the cars pass by and the birds fly around. Truth is he doesn't even seem all that interested in going outside anyhow.lol


I may not agree with letting cats run freely outside but I try to judge ppl who choose to do it.
post #37 of 48
I would love to be able to let the tribe outside so they could go cattin' around, but the enclosure is as close to the outdoors as they get. I live on a park boundry road, so I'm not very worried about traffic. It's the coyotes, bobcats, at least 1 cougar and hawks the size of small airplanes that I worry about.
post #38 of 48
I am among the indoor only advocates, but I think it's a personal decision. My issue with indoor/outdoor or outdoor only is only when people are irresponsible about it. If they are not speutering, vaccinating, they live in an urban or otherwise dangerous location for the cats, etc. Everyone on TCS has a deep connection with cats, and therefore will have strong opinions about their welfare. That is to be expected, IMO, but if you're feeling judged/attacked let it roll off your shoulder. If you know you're doing the right thing for your situation, that's all that matters.

Currently we have two cats, one of which is horrified to go outside so we don't need to worry about him, and the other who loves to go out and roll around in the grass. The latter we take out on a harness only.

When I live in a rural area (sometime in the next 5 years) it's possible that I might have both indoor only and outdoor only cats.
post #39 of 48
I think so many of us look down upon it because we keep our cats inside and don'thave a problem with it.I have 7 indoor only cats, and they are far from cooped up. They have each other, they have us, they have toys and entertainment, and none of them will ever have to worry about being poisoned or hit by a car or killed by a wild animal. It's very easy, although I do know that the norm in the UK is to let cats outside, although if I lived there my cats would be indoors just like they are here.
post #40 of 48
I think everyone will have their own purr-sonal opinions on this subject.

IMO, it is safer to let cats out in some places of the UK than in the US.

I have indoors only cats, or outdoors only cats. There are people who don't like that I have outdoor cats, but that's their opinion. It irritates me sometimes, but I know I saved their lives by bringing them home as farm kitties, where many were to be euthanized.
post #41 of 48
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post

I have indoors only cats, or outdoors only cats. There are people who don't like that I have outdoor cats, but that's their opinion. It irritates me sometimes, but I know I saved their lives by bringing them home as farm kitties, where many were to be euthanized.
but i've seen video of where you live - that's a much safer place for outdoor kitties than mine is!
post #42 of 48
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Originally Posted by fwan View Post
My kitties are indoors, we will be moving to Australia where 98% of the population believes that cats need to be outside. I am currently in a battle with my FH He needs to know they are not allowed outside!
Fran i'm so pleased to hear that, because after being indoors all this time they'd be terrified if they were let out i bet
post #43 of 48
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Originally Posted by Rosiemac View Post
Fran i'm so pleased to hear that, because after being indoors all this time they'd be terrified if they were let out i bet
I know, we have two leashes and they hate it!! But they absolutely love the balcony, so he and his family is making them an enclosure.

After spending so much money and work on them you simply do not want them to go missing.
post #44 of 48
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Originally Posted by fwan View Post
After spending so much money and work on them you simply do not want them to go missing.
Exactly, especially if they go missing in what will be a strange country to them
post #45 of 48
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Originally Posted by AbbysMom View Post
Many shelters in the UK will not adopt to anyone that states the cat will be an indoor only cat.
Wow, and here in the US, one of the shelters will not adopt if you say you will let the cat outside. You have to sign contracts and I'm assuming they too do a home-check. I never realized there was such a difference between locations!
post #46 of 48
In Colorado, outdoor kitties are known as "Fox Food" to those in the know. Coyotes are EVERYWHERE; there was one not five feet from my car as we drove out of the mall parking lot, in the middle of suburbia.

Friends I know who have had outdoor cats have them disappear constantly, and one person's I know got knocked up and then dunked in gasoline WHILE she was pregnant. Yeah, see, that's NOT okay with me.

My kitties go out on leashes under supervision only! If I can help it, I want most kitties indoor only. =)
post #47 of 48
You are absolutely right to keep your kitties in, given the prevailing conditions where you live. But, see, those are not the prevailing conditions everywhere, and what the OP was talking about was a perception that people were making a judgement about HER situation, which is NOT like this -- based on their own, which is like this or something similarly unsafe. You can't judge all situations based on the one you see. You can't say, "There are alligators in this river. It's unsafe to swim," and then apply that judgement to all rivers. All the OP is looking for is for people to allow her to assess her own situation and decide accordingly, without being judged irresponsible or continually having to defend her decision.
post #48 of 48
I myself, do not let my cat ourside, though my neighbor has his out on a leash almost daily and the other neighbor atleast one a week on a leash. My cat has had many oppertunitys to go outside and chooses not too! She's scared and I don't mind one bit.

I also do not feel it is my responsiblity nor choice to judge anyone else on their own unique situation. Their lifestyle or how they were raised may be different from mine and each should be handled in their own way. I think that some people do come off as quite harsh at times, but we just all have to remember that we will not and cannot make everyone happy all of the time. You could stand on your head and spit green and still make someone mad!

I do hope that the OP does still like the site and stays around to offer in their own stories or opinions. The more people and the different cultures and opinions just make the world go round!
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