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ok no knives for you.

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
ban guns, ban replica swords, etc etc.
Ban everthing you want, it wont do any good.get a clue people.

so what is next, going to replace everything plastic spoons, knives forks,
wont do any good, cause the next think will be a hammer.

at what point do people see, its not the object, its the people.

i love this quote
"Young people need to understand that carrying knives doesn't protect you, it does the opposite — it increases the danger for all of us, destroys young lives and ruins families," Brown said."


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363514,00.html
post #2 of 17
When I was in high school I bought a hunting knife with the intent of protecting myself when my friends and I went slumming. The previous summer I was a naif who almost got himself beat up by a tough at a dance who didn't like the way I answered him. I was rescued by the band's bass player. So now I was going to be a tough guy. To tell the truth, I never carried it because the thought of getting into a knife fight made me slightly ill, and I thought if I had the knife someone tougher than I would challenge me and I'd have to fight him. So it rusted away in a drawer somewhere. I might even still have it, still unused. I'm a big fan of "discretion is the better part of valor." Frankly, I think a defensive martial skill is a better defense than a knife, anyway. And if I had had a kid, that's what he would have been encourage to learn.

I have no idea what this post has got to do with the 2nd ammendment, but I'm still a big fan of the 2nd ammendment anyway, and even though I don't bear arms, I want citizens to continue to have that right.
post #3 of 17
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i always carried a knife, not for protection , just cause there always seemed to be something or someone who would ask, anyone have a knife.

its just more of the its the object fault not the person.

If not guns, then knives, if not knives, then clubs.
Those who want to do murder will find a tool to do so with.
Those who want to be law abiders will be victim to those who do not.
post #4 of 17
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I have no idea what this post has got to do with the 2nd ammendment, but I'm still a big fan of the 2nd ammendment anyway, and even though I don't bear arms, I want citizens to continue to have that right.
lol cause the same language, they are using about knvies, is the same language the anti-gun people like to use.

for the most part, your not allowed guns there.
there was move to ban long kitchen knives(i dont know if that passed or not) then not long ago, a ban was placed on replica swords. None of those will do any good. people who want to kill another will always find a way to do it.
post #5 of 17
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None of those will do any good. people who want to kill another will always find a way to do it.
No way. People who might commit murders will stop and think, "Carrying knives is illegal." The illegality of carrying a knife will totally deter them from killing someone.
post #6 of 17
While the US does have a higher rate of gun crimes (obviously), Great Britain, which prohibits handgun ownership, actually has a higher rate of violent crime.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=21902

There is a study that backs up this news article, which is the most recent I could find, but I couldn't find the study itself today, but I did research it before for a post on another board some time ago, and verified the facts.
post #7 of 17
My husband and I have a big stump out back that we practice Knife and hawk on... We put a Potato on a nail in the middle of the stump and compete... Plz don't take away my knife and hawk!!!!
post #8 of 17
In the article it says one kid was murdered with a piece of glass. What are they going to do, ban glass bottles, jars, etc.?

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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
If not guns, then knives, if not knives, then clubs.
Those who want to do murder will find a tool to do so with.
Those who want to be law abiders will be victim to those who do not.
I don't think I've ever agreed with anything you've said before, but you're completely right here.

A nutcase with a knife would be a nutcase with anything else handy, as well.

Tricia
post #9 of 17
I have a knife, but it's already illegal (about an inch longer than you are allowed to carry concealed in Ohio). I do not plan on using it or even showing it unless I feel that the situation I am in will likely lead to my death. I bought it the day after a woman was mugged, beaten, and raped at gunpoint after having been abducted across the street from my work a half hour after I got out of work and walked home alone.

Since then, I've thought better of it. I actually do know how to use it, as well as how to defend myself with no weapons. But, as with any weapon, you're more likely to be hurt by it than to actually successfully defend yourself. On further reflection, I realized that if the woman whose crime inspired me to buy it had tried to use a weapon, she might be dead now.

I do keep it in my bedside drawer though.

Being aware of your surroundings and not being an idiot (walking around on side streets at night alone, being drunk, etc) are much better self-defense than a false sense of security from a weapon. I have managed to live in a very high-crime area for nearly two years now, walking home from work at 10 or 11 at night and living alone until this week, without anything happening, and this isn't luck. I've had a few almosts, but managed to get out of the situation before it really started.

I will agree though that banning a weapon doesn't make the bad guys not have them.
post #10 of 17
You've got more guts than I do Z, I couldn't live in an area like that.

I agree about being observant and careful. Always drive with all your car doors locked. Have your keys out before you get to your car, etc, etc.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I have a knife, but it's already illegal (about an inch longer than you are allowed to carry concealed in Ohio). have them.
unless ohio changed the laws,
there is really no such thing as legal knife length.
back when i did i reaport during my time at kent.
any length knife , the cops can charge you for it.
from pen knife, to bowie knife.

lol ok granted that report was 20 years ago
post #12 of 17
It is bad over here now in some towns and cities with kids carrying small knives, and why they or anyone needs to carry them is beyond me. Their banned over here, but it won't stop them carrying them still.

I'm pleased i live in a quiet area.
post #13 of 17
Yet claim that the knife is part of your religious garb and you are allowed to carry it.

I forget which religion dictates the man wear some kind of sword/knife ... Muslim? ... anyway that was the situation here in one of the schools. Anything construed as a weapon is outlawed from being allowed in the schools. However, one teen's family raised a stink over that rule because their son is required by their religious law to wear some kind of knife and that under the rules that knife is considered a weapon and disallowing it was being prejudicial against their religion. The kid was permitted to continue wearing the knife.
post #14 of 17
Sikhs I think.
In England its never people who carry for religious reasons. Its always council estate idiots who think that carrying a knife makes them a "bad man".
post #15 of 17
The crescent-shaped knife also has some sort of symbolism for Muslim men, but I don't recall what it is, and I don't think it's any kind of a requirement.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by cata_mint View Post
Sikhs I think.

yea, its sikhs.
its a symbol of baptism. if i remember right.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
unless ohio changed the laws,
there is really no such thing as legal knife length.
back when i did i reaport during my time at kent.
any length knife , the cops can charge you for it.
from pen knife, to bowie knife.

lol ok granted that report was 20 years ago
The law is that you can't have any knife that has an automatic opening/locking mechanism (a switchblade), a straight razor, "karate sticks by any name known", or anything with a blade longer than 2.5 inches.

There are concessions if you are going to or from work and have reason to believe you are at risk, if it's in your car but not on your body, or if you can demonstrate that the knife has utility other than just as a weapon.
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