Bruce, sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I had a long post typed out last night then it disappeared. I was way to tired to start over again. Today has turned out to be a not so good day.
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Originally Posted by theimp98  can we ban fat people also from parks?
cause really i dont want to see them.
and people with dogs, cause they do there business out there for everyone to see.
or in other words. walk the other way, walk around(unless your legs are broke of course), you are not forced to listen to someone. You are not being tied down, or forced at gun point to listen.
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You honestly don't believe these are similar circumstances? Have you ever had an obese person try to convert you or your children to the"obese lifestyle"? Have you ever had then covertly pass out candy and tell kids that exercise is a tool of Satan ? Seriously.
As to the dogs, they are banned from many places and most every place they are allowed mandates that all poop be picked up. Heavy fines for not doing so.
If I am sitting in a park, and enjoying the greenspace that my tax dollars pay to create and some religious person then comes with a platform, microphone and speaker and starts preaching. Why should I have to be subjected to that? Why should I be forced out of the only enjoyable greenspace in the city that I helped pay for?
Religious people should be allowed to come and take over a public place forcing all other people to leave? This from the very same people who think homosexuals don't have a right to even exist because they are "gross". Or because their very existence some how harms someone that they don't even know.
Places of worship exist so religions can preach their message and those who which to participate know where to go to hear the "good news".
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Originally Posted by theimp98 i dont remember, any place in there where it was said, they where harassing people.
as was said, by someone in the uk
"If the PCSO had called in the proper Police he probably would have been laughed at by them.
Its just one idiot getting too big for his boots, and the media will jump on anything like this atm"
nor does the news story say anything about the muslims in the area being upset. Just the PCSO who is not the police.
""He said we were in a Muslim area and were not allowed to spread our Christian message. He said we were committing a hate crime by telling the youths to leave Islam and said that he was going to take us to the police station"
from the news story
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West Midlands Police, officer would be given training in understanding hate crime and communication. "
so from the news story , they(being the preachers did nothing wrong, no one in the community filed a camplaint aganist them.
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There have been growing tensions in England over middle eastern immigrants of the Muslim faith failing to integrate into English society. In light of these circumstances, having Evangelical preachers purposely going into a Muslim community to "tell the youths to leave Islam" certainl does amount to harassment. It could also very easily incite a riot.
Unfortunately these people were not just wanting to walk through the neighborhood just talking about their religions. They were there to purposely harangue and attempt to convert people who do not want to be converted. Can you honestly not see the problem with this?
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Originally Posted by theimp98 I can tell you the rise of the evangelicals is in direct response to what many feel is christians being pushed aside, and not being allowed to voice there opions or thoughts. How at the same time, seeing other faiths showing up in public schools and other places.
One example around here on TV, happy XXXX for muslims, for jews, but i did not see any that said merry christmas.
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Unfortunately you left out the rest of my post which actually addressed this. It said :
"Yes there are people who want to erase all Christianity from public places. I believe this is because of the pushing of the Evangelicals. I was alive before the "born again" revolution. People didn't contest Christian symbols then and the Christian faiths were allowed many privileges that were not really following the rules, like Christmas pageants in public schools.
However once the Born Again Evangelicals starting on a roll, they decided that Halloween was too offensive and there could be no ghost, witch or devil costumes in school Halloween parties. Then there should be no Halloween at all because it was a Pagan celebration. Then it was children should be able to pray in public schools. They just started pushing and shoving and trying to make sure everything in society followed their beliefs.
Well this got them a backlash. If there is no Halloween allowed, then there is no Christmas allowed. Fair is fair. The Evangelicals pushed too hard and now they are suffering the consequences of their actions and all Christian religions are getting the repercussions.
In this country you must accommodate all or none. Many different religions have festivals and significant events around the same dates as Christmas. Thus the Happy Holidays to include everyone. The Evangelicals can't stand this, they think it should be only Christmas and Christmas should be on full display in everyones faces. "
I am not sure how you missed all that. 
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Originally Posted by theimp98 which from the news article sounds like what took place.
the pretend cop was the only one that was gulity and reacted to non issue
Unless you want to go with someone talking about there faith is a hate crime.
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I already addressed this above and in my previous post and in my original post.
These preacher were not just talking about their faith. They were purposely going into a neighborhood that is already about to boil over with tension, a neighborhood that did not want to be converted, with the sole purpose of trying to tell the
youth no less to leave Islam.
Their actions were certainly not innocent.
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