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post #1 of 26
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I have a one-year-old male gray tabby and he's very healthy and very active, lol. Well, today for the first time, I noticed that he used the litter box a lot. He's an indoor cat, but I take him outside every other day, and let him walk around, get some fresh air and eat some grass. I also watch him and follow him around we have a HUGE property.

While outside, he peed a little in the dirt, didn't think it was a big deal. But he took a while sitting there...a little weird? So, about 10 mins. later after I brought him inside, I went in the basement to clean the litter box (I have two boxes. One in my room--it's ALWAYS clean, I scoop it everyday and it never smells at all, lol) and one in the basement. Well, after I cleaned the basement one, my male cat went in and peed again, it looked very little and again, took a while.

He did this a few more times later and went just now, but I took him out of the box after he was done and scooped the clump of urine he just did, to see how much he peed (gross, I know, but I was really concerned!) The clump was like, the size of a quarter. He's been eating fine, begged for dinner like always, lol, ate all of his food, drank some water. He has clean water everyday.

Could it be possible that he has a UTI or something?? I hope not because I have no money for the vet. Is there anything I get give him over the counter that will help him? Any feedback is appreciated! :-)

post #2 of 26
sounds worrisome, to me. male cats are prone to blockages, which can be very dangerous.
sounds like 'vet visit' time to me!
post #3 of 26
You need to call teh Vet before he blocks up. He can die if he does. I lost my Frisky that way. If see see him trying to go more tonight go to Er. Can you get Care Credit? Sounds like he has Crystals in his Urine. I had to take my Cat to Er last week for that but she is a girl. Females can pass it Males can block.
post #4 of 26
Yes, vet now. This is a sign of a UTI, and male cats block easily & can die from it. You get him into the vet as soon as you possibly can, do not wait. Cow died once from being blocked while they were operating on him, I've almost lost Squishy to a blockage as well. This is not something to wait on, whether you can afford a vet or not you need to find a way to.
post #5 of 26
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Crap....well, I'll see if I can call tomorrow and make an appt. I have no money and I'll have to ask Mom to pay and I'll pay her back.

He eats dry food, scheduled meals. Is there anything I can feed him to keep this from happening again?? I'm really worried, now I'll be crying all night!
post #6 of 26
Originally Posted by Aja View Post
Crap....well, I'll see if I can call tomorrow and make an appt. I have no money and I'll have to ask Mom to pay and I'll pay her back.

He eats dry food, scheduled meals. Is there anything I can feed him to keep this from happening again?? I'm really worried, now I'll be crying all night!
more liquid is advantageous - perhaps one wet meal a day? you can add extra water to that.
also, cats [at least, mine] seem to drink more from a fountain than a bowl... the freshflow is not too pricey, & 4/5 of my cats really like it.
post #7 of 26
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I mean, how much is this going to cost and what can I feed him to keep from happening again? I don't understand why he got this when he eats well, drinks plenty of water, always clean....what exactly does the vet do when I take my cat?? Mom's not too thrilled because the vet is SO expensive....I feel terrible.

What is Care Credit and how often can males get UTI's?? I did hear males can get UTI's but I didn't know it wasn't 'rare' and they don't get them as much if they're neutered. He's neutered..
post #8 of 26
vet pricing differs around the country - as well as from vet to vet.
if he has a UTI, he'll be given antibiotics. if he has struvite crystals, there are prescription foods that will dissolve them.
they'll probably take a urine sample to check for crystals & bacteria.
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
That's true...well, I found a good vet that my aunt recommended and I keep trying to call to make an ER appt. for tomorrow morning, but their line is busy. I dunno if they turn off their lines for the night or what. I don't think they're a 24 hour vet.

But I will call first thing tomorrow morning, they open at 8:30am and make an appt. I also called my aunt's sister-in-law since she's an expert in cats and she said that he may need a catheter if he's not peeing at all, but he's peeing a little, I just hope nothing too drastic will happen and some meds will clear it up...he seems okay but I just feel so bad for him. She also asked me to feel his bladder but to be honest, I tried to feel for anything "firm and expanded" but couldn't feel anything? But if it's not firm/expanded then he'll be okay until tomorrow but if it is, go immediately. Of course, it's 10:30am and I cannot go now, parents are in bed and I don't drive.

I'm just going to awake ALL night watching him, although he seems fine, I'm worried sick, lol. He's my baby. I wish there was something I could do.

Also....what kind of cat food should I look into buying for him from now on? Sister-in-law mentioned two things to watch out for when buying cat food, I THINK one of them she said was magnesium, but I'm not sure....thanks!!
post #10 of 26
Care Credit is like a Credit Card. We lost two Males to Blockage . One was my Frisky and the other was Bogart my Brothers Cat. Midnight has had it twice so far. He is my Sisters Cat. Alot of my firends Cats have had it also. My Cat is on C/D.
post #11 of 26
fish can cause problems for UTI prone kitties. i try to avoid too much fish for mine [tho they love it] mainly for my male's sake.
i understand the financial aspect - i was quite strapped for money this past fall, due to paying off a large credit card debt [sick kitties will do it to you every time!]. i've found that Authority lamb & rice canned [Petsmart's brand] has no fish & is $.61 per 5.5oz can. their dry is quite reasonably priced, as well, & about a mid-grade as far as quality... & no fish there, either.
post #12 of 26
OK, here's a mild crash course in everything I can remember UTIs & prices for me (rural MN):

Urine Sample via bladder expression - $18 (tests for bacteria, blood, & crystals)
Science Diet S/D or C/D - $14 for 4 lbs. dry
S/D or C/D canned....around $1.15 per can? was $30 for 3 weeks of it, I believe. Orbax, which my vet uses for cats who don't tolerate it was right around $30 as well.

If they cannot get a urine sample, they'll have to catheterize him which *might* require anesthesia. They may need to do x-rays to determine if he has stones causing a blockage (which for me is $44 for $22 for gas anesthesia).

Like Laureen said....wet food helps a lot with UTI issues. What causes them is a mystery....some cats have issues with them for life, some get one & that's it. Cow's....there were no crystals, no stones, nothing. The vet was stumped as to what caused it. A water fountain helps increase wet intake, which can help prevent them.

You can PM sharky once you know more on what is causing his issues, she's the resident food expert & can help you select a food. You can also search the forums for UTI friendly foods. I feed Nutro MAX cat chicken, which is no longer UTI certified, but so far I've had no UTI reoccurances.
post #13 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks SOOO much for everything!! I will def. call the vet tomorrow morning and bring him in and look into what kind of food to feed him from now on. I have been giving him and Carmella, my other cat, indoor formula from Purina. Jade (male) seems to love any cat food so I think he'll eat anything. Carmella is not picky either so, thank goodness these cats eat anything, lol. We do not give either of our cats table food, just dry food in the morning, a little in the afternoon to keep them quiet, lol, and then in the evening, dinner. And they always have fresh clean water as well and clean litter boxes.

Money's tight for me right now. But I'm about to apply for a job as a library asst. so let's see what happens. But I am flat broke at the moment. I'll need Mom's help on this one, whoever much it will aunt recommended this vet because it's not as expensive, so I hope it won't be too bad and Jade will just need some meds to clear it up. I just noticed his behavior today so I pray I caught this early for his sake.

I'll have to promise to pay Mom back, LOL. I always say I'll pay back and I never do sooo, this is something I'll need to write down and remind myself. But honestly, I can't even think of any large amount of money that I promised to pay back because I'm not a big spender and I always feel bad having Mom spend so much money on me, lol.

Mom wouldn't want the payment all back at once, but little by little is fine, lol, as long as I pay it off.
post #14 of 26
Sending your way.
post #15 of 26
I hope your Cat is ok. Mine is in teh pan screaming again and squating. She has the Vet at 1:40.
post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your support, everyone!!

Well, here's the scoop...Jade spent a few hours at the vet so they could get a urine sample from him. They did and it turns out he does have a UTI, just like I expected. His bladder was actually empty when we got there. He peed some this morning before we left. We have a new vet now, lol. Staff is great and it's a little cheaper than our other vet and its SO close by! :-)

So....he has a UTI and they gave him penicillin for the night and he starts anti-biotics tomorrow morning.

But...I am curious about "food." The vet recommended 3 types, Royal Canin, Eukabana and ?? I cannot remember and still looking for the piece of paper the vet gave me, lol. OH! It may have been Nutro....but I really don't remember!

So, going by either RC and Eukabana, I've read some bad reviews about RC but looking into Eukabana now. They don't have a urinary health formula??? I know he's not well yet, he keeps using the litter box several times in like, a half hour...I know this is typical for cats with UTI and he will get better, just 'worried.'

What are your thoughts?? I went to Petco to get his 'special' food and they had the brands, all the formulas but no urinary tract much for luck! So I went with Purina Pro-plan urinary health for now until I can order the better brand online or something....

Thoughts?? Advice? Recommendations?

Still doing my 'homework' to decide on the best for him. It's better to pay a little more for food than to keep taking him to the vet for UTI's. But I'd appreciate any comments. Also, someone told me to give the cat cranberry supplements LOL but I didn't do that...
post #17 of 26
Coco wa on Eukanuba when she got her first Infection. She is on C/D now and we are getting Can Royal Canin next week because she wont eat the can C/D. She finished her Meds on Sunday then today she was in the pan screaming and sqauting. What Antibiotics did he get. My Vet didnt charge me for the Ultra Sound. They saw a thick bladder though. My Vet gave me a choice of Purina Urinary or Royal Canin for the Can. She will stay on the C/D dry. I hope your Cat will not get another infection.
post #18 of 26
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He's still using the box several times like, every five this normal for cats with UTI's?? He just got his first dosage of meds this morning. What a pain that was, LOL! He spit some of it out, but I hope he still got the full dosage although someone of it ended up on the floor, lol. Should have gotten pills instead. What is a good way to make sure he swallows ALL his meds? Mom suggested dispensing it in the corner of his mouth but he'd still spit it out. I dispense it at the back of his mouth and messaged his throat to get it to go down easy...

Also, I don't see him drinking water...he eats fine, not all his food in one sitting like he usually does, but I can def. see he has slowed down a little.

Vet gave me Clavamox. 1ml twice a day. About how long before the meds take effect? I just hate to see him in the box all the time...
post #19 of 26
Sharky may well be able to help you with a food recommendation. As another poster pointed out, if you can feed more wet food that would help to avoid blockages and uti's. Water fountains are wonderful. I cannot believe how much more water our cats drink since we started using fountains.

Hope your kitty feels better really soon.
post #20 of 26
I just had to chace Coco all over the place to give her Cefa Drops. Its easier for me to give the liquid. Coco isnt in the Pan today. Your Cat should stop doing that also. Coco used to get Clavamox but she alwys threw up from it. So now its Cefa Drops or Cephalexin which is almost the same. Put it in the corner of his mouth and do it slowly. Thats how I give Coco her Cefa.
post #21 of 26
Thread Starter 
Some updates:

I administered Jade's meds in the corner of his mouth this evening, little by little and kept his head up. I also stroked his throat and told him what a good boy he was, lol. He's such a mellow and calm cat, it's great. Even the vets loved him.

He took ALL his meds, nothing spit out, I'm so glad! He seems to be doing well with Clavamox. No reactions, nothing. Although he did use the box a lot today, I'm hoping that will diminish drastically tomorrow. I understand it may take a few days for the meds to really kick in and heal it up. But I've been keeping him in my room to rest and relax with a litter box. He's active, but I can tell he's not all feeling great, lol. He's been 'lying' around a lot, lol.

I also notice he has not been drinking much water, I have been in my room cleaning most of the day so I've been watching him closely.

I saw him drink some this morning and I change his water twice a day, but I will consider a fountain for sure. I am flat broke right now! So, I added some hot water to some dry food to soften it up a bit and when it was warm enough, fed it to him. I don't think he cares for the food or he's not feeling well because he eats like a piggy, lol. He perks up when it's time to eat and cries like he never eats, lol.

But with the water in his food, I figured at least he'd get some fluids this way. He ate the whole thing, which is I will continue to add some warm water to his food every day and will also add some canned food to his diet as well. a quarter can in the morning mixed with some dry and a quater at night. I won't give it every night, but a few nights a week.

I have a veterinary manual that I found in the attic and it states to add a little salt to the food, but too much can cause diarrhea. Another remedy was to add wet food or add some milk, but I know dairy is not good for cats. Another person told me to give the cranberry supplements as it worked wonders for her cat and she feeds him this food ONLY and he's been UTI free ever since, but I will get in touch with Sharky:
post #22 of 26
The same thing happened to my cat just not too long ago. He would squat for a long time and only a drop comes out. We took him to the vet a 4 hours after. He was on Amoxycillin and some other type of medicine (pill form). My boyfriend and I were waiting so anxiously for the meds to kick in. Finally, 2 days later, he pee'd more. Now, he's back to his old self.

Our cats are on an all dry food diet. To get more water into their system, we got a cat water fountain. We are also deciding the right wet food for them, because I am really contemplating giving them a mixture of dry and wet food.

for your cat to get well soon!
post #23 of 26
The Eukanuba Weight Control is what Coco was on when she got Bladder Stones and her first Infection. it must depend on the Cat.
post #24 of 26
Thread Starter 
OMG I got SO busy and side-tracked I forgot about this until now. (I know, I'm terrible, lol)

Well, Jade was much better within a few days. He's been doing great ever since. I feed him Pro Plan UT Health. He's okay with it, but eats it because he has no choice, lol! It was the only brand of food I could afford and it lasts a while since he's the only one that eats it, lol.

Anyways, I want to thank EVERYONE SO MUCH for ALL of their advice and help in this! I really do appreciate it very much and I'm really sorry I didn't come here sooner to thank you all. I will try and come around more often, I'm in college so I'm SO busy with that.

Again, THANKS!!!!!!!!
post #25 of 26
I am glad he is doing good.
My cat has another bladder infection again.
post #26 of 26
I am so glad he is doing better, although you might want to increase his wet food to avoid this happening again, and cranberry can work wonders. Also, please dont ever try to feel your cats bladder yourself, if you do it wrong, you can rupture their bladder. You can try different things to increase water consumption, sometimes they just need a different bowl, or in a different place (they dont like drinking next to where they eat), but if you continue to feed dry only and he doens't drink a lot, this will keep happening.
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