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Is he subversive, stupid, or senile?

post #1 of 13
5/27/08 at 2:04pm
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Those are the only adjectives I can apply to Jimmy Carter "outing" Israel's nuclear arsenal.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,358152,00.html

Israel has never confirmed or denied that they have nuclear weapons. No US Presidents, sitting or former, has ever confirmed that Israel has nuclear weapons...until yesterday.

Maybe he's just throwing a little temper tantrum because the PM of Israel wouldn't meet with him after meeting with the leaders of Hamas.
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post #2 of 13
5/27/08 at 2:38pm
This is the 3rd reply that I've started writing, and just discovered, that I have no idea what to say other than; "Geez!"

Why don't this clown go home to Plains, grow peanuts and fish for bluegill for the rest of his life and stay out of trouble.
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post #3 of 13
5/27/08 at 2:41pm
I know, I saw this too. I think he is senile myself.
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post #4 of 13
5/27/08 at 2:47pm
Carter has no official government status does he? If he doesn't, why should the Israeli's even talk to him?

Go home, Carter.
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post #5 of 13
5/27/08 at 4:02pm
I think that's why Israel didn't talk to him, much, during his recent visits.

He's been very one-sided against Israel for a long time, so I doubt he has much chance with them, anyway.

I still think that history will view him as one of our all-time worst Presidents (but possibly one of the all-time nicest, best-meaning guys), but he did have some very bad luck during his term, too.
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post #6 of 13
5/27/08 at 4:59pm
yea, so they have them big deal.
i just dont understand why they let carter back in the country,
should have yanked his passport.
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post #7 of 13
5/27/08 at 9:32pm
Did you guys read the whole article? It said SecDef Gates had already confirmed Israel's nuclear status back in 2006. This is much ado about nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I've got to wonder if the Israeli general quoted is making these comments on his own behalf or on behalf of the state of Israel. I wonder if he's stirring a cold pot, hoping it'll get warmed up. Nobody pays any attention to Carter any more, do they?
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post #8 of 13
5/28/08 at 6:49am
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Did you guys read the whole article? It said SecDef Gates had already confirmed Israel's nuclear status back in 2006. This is much ado about nothing. Absolutely nothing.
I agree.

But to answer your question, valanhb: yes, yes, and yes.
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post #9 of 13
5/28/08 at 7:51am
I used to like Jimmy Carter, but now, I find him extremely irritating. What is he trying to do? Run for President again? Go home, Jimmy!
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post #10 of 13
5/28/08 at 9:44am
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Did you guys read the whole article? It said SecDef Gates had already confirmed Israel's nuclear status back in 2006. This is much ado about nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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post #11 of 13
5/28/08 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by coaster View Post
Did you guys read the whole article? It said SecDef Gates had already confirmed Israel's nuclear status back in 2006. This is much ado about nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I've got to wonder if the Israeli general quoted is making these comments on his own behalf or on behalf of the state of Israel. I wonder if he's stirring a cold pot, hoping it'll get warmed up. Nobody pays any attention to Carter any more, do they?
Not only that, but Olmert at least appeared to confirm Israel's nuclear status back in December of 2006: http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/799736.html
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Olmert, who began an official visit to Germany Monday, told the German television news channel N24 in an interview that "we have never threatened any nation with annihilation. Iran, openly, explicitly and publicly threatens to wipe Israel off the map. Can you say that this is the same level, when they are aspiring to have nuclear weapons, as America, France, Israel, Russia?"
http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...rk_draws_fire/
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post #12 of 13
5/28/08 at 10:48am
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Yes, it's been common knowledge, whether or not it's been confirmed or denied by whatever political entities, that Israel posesses nuclear weapons. However, estimates have ranged from 60 warheads to 600. Quite a bit of difference and level of deterrance for the other countries that are hellbent on their destruction.

Carter cited a real number - 150. Being that he is a former President, no one knows whether this is from intelligence, past conversations with Israeli officials, or if he's just going by the estimates previously published without any concrete evidence. That's the big deal.

At the height of the Cold War, before any of the treaties were signed, would it have been a big deal for one of our allies to let slip about how many warheads we had? You betcha! Sure, we had intelligence about how many the USSR had, but we didn't have any concrete numbers on them, just estimates.
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post #13 of 13
5/28/08 at 1:25pm
And our estimates proved way too high, as was discovered after the collapse of the Soviet Union. And after you've got a hundred or so, numbers have little meaning anyway, at least if we're talking strategic weapons. The war is over one way or the other before you've used half of them. Use all of them and the earth is over.

Funny that Olmert didn't mention a few other countries: China, Korea and Pakistan are known to have nukes; South Africa and India are rumoured to have nukes; any others I'm missing?
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