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Why I support McCain over you-know-who

post #1 of 35
5/27/08 at 1:41pm
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http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/...7-acd5d1a4a6ca


I don't agree with him on everything, but when it comes to National Security
(apart from immigration) he is the man.
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post #2 of 35
5/27/08 at 7:28pm
I think that his IMMIGRATION ideas are a strong point!!! His speech about border security AND sensible immigration plans make as much sense to me as TNR
Also, I've been focusing on international news (from satellite stations, not mainstream media) and it seems to me that our global leaders will respect McCain more in global affairs.
So, since I won't be able to vote for Hillary.....
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post #3 of 35
5/27/08 at 7:48pm
I won't be voting for McCain. I can't stand him. I have never liked him because he is not a true conservative. Just wait. If he gets elected he will do what he wants and it won't be what people think.
He has flip flopped all over the place and I want someone who has true convictions and sticks with them. Even if I don't agree with them at least be honest.
I am ambivalent about Obama.
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post #4 of 35
5/27/08 at 9:29pm
I think the only campaigns I wasn't ambivalent about were the Reagan campaigns.
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post #5 of 35
5/27/08 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/...7-acd5d1a4a6ca


I don't agree with him on everything, but when it comes to National Security
(apart from immigration) he is the man.
immigration, and cuba. its well past time to end that
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post #6 of 35
5/27/08 at 9:53pm
ok, can any of you support is Economic policy? Can he balance a budget and reduce the deficit?

The economy is the #1 issue that is going to affect the next President. So far Clinton seems to be the only one who actually understands the term balanced budget.

If McCain can make a workable economic policy with a balanced budget I will vote for him and forget all the other stuff.


Well maybe not the illegals.. they have to be addressed. I wish everyone would stop calling it an "immigration problem". Immigrants, legal ones, are NOT a problem. It is an Illegal problem caused by weak boarders and Greedy abusive american employers. I think Arizona's illegal immigrant employer law should be enacted for the entire county.
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post #7 of 35
5/27/08 at 11:01pm
Gee not only does the obama not know history,
he does not know his own family. So unless his uncle was in the Soviet Army/ hmm i wonder if his uncle was also a typical white person

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05...g-key-details/
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post #8 of 35
5/28/08 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by kittymonsters View Post
Well maybe not the illegals.. they have to be addressed. I wish everyone would stop calling it an "immigration problem". Immigrants, legal ones, are NOT a problem. It is an Illegal problem caused by weak boarders and Greedy abusive american employers. I think Arizona's illegal immigrant employer law should be enacted for the entire county.
Good point!! But is that law working? Is it enough?
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post #9 of 35
5/28/08 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by coaster View Post
Good point!! But is that law working? Is it enough?

Based on the reports I have seen it is working. "Self-deportation" is occurring ,so much so that the Mexican State of Senora is complaining about too many people moving there! Go figure that one.

Here is one article from CNN http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/22/imm....ap/index.html

Unfortunately for me, I live in NM which has become the illegal magnet state. Illegals can get driver's licenses here. By having a valid drivers license they can then register to vote here. Most get paid cash under the table and do not pay taxes.

I saw one report where they were interviewing illegals in AZ and they were all saying they were getting ready to move to NM where they are welcomed.

This has not been good for the state. We are a poor state that has become poorer. The violence is getting out of control. NM moved up a notch this year and is now ranked as the second most dangerous state in the union. We passed Louisiana this year. National Guard troops have been deployed in the past year to help with violence. While everything that is wrong with this state cannot be blamed in the growing illegal population, it is a strong contributing factor that should be addressed.
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post #10 of 35
5/28/08 at 4:52pm
Ouch!! Passed up Louisiana? Doesn't sound too good. Makes a good case for a strong national policy, so one state can't pass off its problems to another.
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post #11 of 35
5/28/08 at 5:12pm
I have one thing to say about this: McSame!! (that's a no way vote)
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post #12 of 35
5/28/08 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by mzjazz2u View Post
I have one thing to say about this: McSame!! (that's a no way vote)



thats cute.
but anyone that knows mccain knows that he is nothing like bush.
or for that matter a REP.
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post #13 of 35
5/28/08 at 5:29pm
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thats cute.
but anyone that knows mccain knows that he is nothing like bush.
or for that matter a REP.
He could have fooled me! I've been listening to him and he sure sounds pretty much the same to me! I think he and his team would like people to THINK he's not the same. I'm a registered republican but I just don't want a rep. in the white house this time around.
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post #14 of 35
5/28/08 at 5:45pm
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Just wait. If he gets elected he will do what he wants and it won't be what people think.
Wait a minute! Isn't that true about EVERY candidate? More often than not, none of them are able to deliver their campaign promises once elected.
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post #15 of 35
5/28/08 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by mzjazz2u View Post
He could have fooled me! I've been listening to him and he sure sounds pretty much the same to me! I think he and his team would like people to THINK he's not the same. I'm a registered republican but I just don't want a rep. in the white house this time around.
There is reason he has been outsider for years. Even i know that.
and i am not registered anything.
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post #16 of 35
5/28/08 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by mzjazz2u View Post
I have one thing to say about this: McSame!! (that's a no way vote)
Are you yelling?

If you think McCain is like Bush, you must not know a thing about McCain.
That is typical, liberal rhetoric, you shouldn't drink the kool-aid.
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post #17 of 35
5/28/08 at 9:42pm
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Wait a minute! Isn't that true about EVERY candidate? More often than not, none of them are able to deliver their campaign promises once elected.
What I meant by that is that he is currying Republicans that he has nothing in common with. The man almost switched parties.

I am an Independent so I vote for the candidate not a party.
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post #18 of 35
5/29/08 at 8:54am
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All the bad guys like Obama. That says it all for me.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05...americas-foes/


Of course you won't see the above on any of the major media sources as they are in charge of the upcoming election.
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post #19 of 35
5/29/08 at 11:18am
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All the bad guys like Obama. That says it all for me.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05...americas-foes/


Of course you won't see the above on any of the major media sources as they are in charge of the upcoming election.
Have you taken into consideration that these very same "leaders" are aware that their "support" of Obama hurts his chances? It can also be taken as an endorsement of McCain.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...808467,00.html
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Which raises the question: Who are the bad guys rooting for in 2008? John McCain would have you believe the answer is clear. Barack Obama wants to meet with the leaders of enemy states, especially Iran, "which would increase their prestige," McCain says, and convey the impression of American weakness. To punctuate the point, McCain persistently barks that Obama wants to meet with the Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a flagrant anti-Semite but a relatively powerless figurehead. Obama ... has been creatively fuzzy when asked directly if he would meet with Ahmadinejad — and he has begun to point out that the real leaders of Iran are the clerics led by the Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei, who controls Iran's foreign policy and its nuclear program.
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post #20 of 35
5/29/08 at 11:45am
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Sure, I'm sure the bad guys are rooting for the war-hardened Vet who was a P.O.W. for 5 1/2 years, I'm sure that is what it is.
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post #21 of 35
5/29/08 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Sure, I'm sure the bad guys are rooting for the war-hardened Vet who was a P.O.W. for 5 1/2 years, I'm sure that is what it is.
Have you thought it through? McCain would make a better "Great Satan" than either Obama or Hillary. Dictators need that perceived outside threat to keep their populations, i.e., dissenters, under control.

The U.S., U.K. and Germany have all used the threat of terrorism to reduce civil rights, e.g., data protection, search and seizures, detention of suspected terrorists, and they are free democracies.
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post #22 of 35
5/29/08 at 12:33pm
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Yes, I have thought it through and I don't buy it.

Hamas, Iran, and the others know Obama will wimp out when and if he gets in, that is what they are praying for. And all those who want our military to get pulled out of Iraq the day after Barak gets elected want another Saigon I guess.
It won't be pretty but it WILL be Barak's fault for being the wimp he is.

The bad guys are following this election closely, they know who the wimp is and it ain't McCain.
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post #23 of 35
5/29/08 at 12:53pm
Well I'm a registered republican too.....and there doesn't appear to be any in the upcoming election. (having an 'R' next to your name doesn't make you a Republican....just in name only). I mean McCain authored a bill with Ted Kennedy for crying out loud! But I guess I'll be voting for him...rather than the alternative. At least McCain appears to be good regarding national defense.
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post #24 of 35
5/29/08 at 2:34pm
Who are the bad guys rooting for in '08? Here's my shocking prediction: they don't care because whoever wins the White House is going to be in for a nasty surprise: I predict that we're going to get hit with another bad terrorist attack after the new president is in office. Why? To keep us tied up with a war in the Middle East. That's the only way they can fight us. Sting us like a bee and make us mad as a hornet and go after them in places where they have the advantage. Wear us down and wear us out; bankrupt us in both national treasure and national morale. The next president is going to continue the war. Where? Not sure. Iran, Syria, Pakistan......there are so many other places just waiting to suck us in.

Though I will say this for McCain: I think he's the only one of the three that realizes this scenario is quite likely. The other two either haven't a clue or they're pretty good at lying.
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post #25 of 35
5/29/08 at 3:00pm
I love to argue politics, but my assessment is that it doesn't matter at all who the next president is. GWB will be leaving the country in such a mess that there's no way his successor will be able to rectify matters to any significant extent within four, or even eight, years. His administration has wrought too much damage to the country, domestically and globally. His "reign" has been an out-and-out disaster, and McCain, Obama, Hillary or Nader won't be able to put things right. They must be masochists to even contemplate putting themselves through that ordeal. I should probably write in Snoopy or Garfield on my ballot, given my current lack of confidence in any of the candidates. How depressing!
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post #26 of 35
5/29/08 at 4:35pm
i would be willing to bet, there would be a terroist hit, within the US right before bush leaves. kinda of a hah, your leaving office and cant do anything about it.
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post #27 of 35
5/29/08 at 4:41pm
Hmmmmm.....I don't know.....Bush might use that as an excuse to invoke that law that enables the President to declare martial law. He could suspend elections, theoretically. Though even during WW II elections were held. I'm not up on the specifics; maybe someone else knows more about it.
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post #28 of 35
5/29/08 at 4:48pm
i doubt most americans know about the law that lets a presdent put elections on hold.
so i would not expect the terroist to know lol
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post #29 of 35
5/29/08 at 4:56pm
Well, curses be upon me, I guess I just told them!!
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post #30 of 35
5/29/08 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
i doubt most americans know about the law that lets a presdent put elections on hold.
so i would not expect the terroist to know lol
I'd bet they know more about our system than we do.
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