Originally Posted by Skippymjp
To me, it isn't about the particulars, or the mechanics of the raid. It's the precedent that it would set. If this raid were to be declared legal land proper, then the very same methods can be used against any group, anywhere. No, it's not a cul-de-sac. But it may be next time. Or a neighborhood; or private school, or church. I agree with Bruce completely on this one, it's a dangerous precedent.
Although this case is an exception to many rules, and unusually complex, CPS (by whatever local name they use) has very broad powers. It is one of those very difficult points of tension between the need to protect the children and the rights of the family.
There are always going to be mistakes in both directions. If CPS does not protect the child and the child dies (this has happened) it is a tragedy beyond bearing. If they protect when they should not (this has also happened) it is a slippery slope.
In this case, it is a cult that demands complete allegiance by its members -- even to the point of demanding that some men marry more than one woman (or girls), or to taking away their wife, or wives, and children and giving them to other men.
The leaders can demand that parents allow their girls to be married before they are willing and their boys be abandoned.
These leaders can demand that the members lie to the "outside world" and in their horribly ugly phrase "bleed the beast" by committing welfare fraud.
Warren Jeffs is still the avowed leader even though he "married" a 12-year-old girl. Who with ordinary good judgement would accept that in their spiritual leader?
I can't see this group as religious in any sense of the word. The members are more than willing to conspire with the leaders to commit the crimes of polygamy, child abuse, unlawful sex with a minor and financial fraud including tax and welfare fraud.