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post #91 of 104
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Originally Posted by Kai Bengals View Post
Straight from the mouth of the lunatic leader of PETA, Newkirk:
“In the end, I think it would be lovely if we stopped this whole notion of pets altogether.â€
— Newsday, Feb 1988

Dispute that!
Not disputing. Just getting Quote from Newkirk to reply.

What is the ultimate goal of PETA? To euthanize all animals? They want to get rid of pet ownership, but then if the animals are on the streets PETA comes to the rescue and KILLS them? This group is INSANE....I would never support such a group.
post #92 of 104
Having seen the havoc created by PeTA supporters outside an animal shelter telling adopters that they shouldn't have the animals they just adopted I can safely say that PeTA do not support pet ownership - even when adopted from a shelter.

PeTA's euthanising rate is rediculous - our city has a very low rate, the shelter I am involved in is a 'no-kill' - we do euthanise on the advice of a vet or if the animal has severe (and I do mean severe, I have a cat from there with behaviour problems that was not PTS and we have several abused animals that will bite and scratch but they need to learn to trust again and deserve better than being PTS because some human abused them). Our animal control will do everything they can before euthanising and all of the shelters work together to ensure that euthanising does not happen.

As for breeders causing the problem - the vast majority of animals in our shelters are not even BYB breeding quality - they are from idiots who get animals and do not speuter which is why no animal old enough / weighing enough according to our vet leaves the shelter unspeutered.

PeTA may have done some good in their time, even recently, but I believe in actually doing something and I, as well as 600 or so other volunteers work hard in our city to ensure animals are safe and happy. PeTA is not the only group who believes in animal rights or welfare - in fact some actually do believe in the welfare of the animals and not just media spotlight to get more money to mis-spend.
post #93 of 104
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Originally Posted by icklemiss21 View Post
Having seen the havoc created by PeTA supporters outside an animal shelter telling adopters that they shouldn't have the animals they just adopted I can safely say that PeTA do not support pet ownership - even when adopted from a shelter.

PeTA's euthanising rate is rediculous - our city has a very low rate, the shelter I am involved in is a 'no-kill' - we do euthanise on the advice of a vet or if the animal has severe (and I do mean severe, I have a cat from there with behaviour problems that was not PTS and we have several abused animals that will bite and scratch but they need to learn to trust again and deserve better than being PTS because some human abused them). Our animal control will do everything they can before euthanising and all of the shelters work together to ensure that euthanising does not happen.

As for breeders causing the problem - the vast majority of animals in our shelters are not even BYB breeding quality - they are from idiots who get animals and do not speuter which is why no animal old enough / weighing enough according to our vet leaves the shelter unspeutered.

PeTA may have done some good in their time, even recently, but I believe in actually doing something and I, as well as 600 or so other volunteers work hard in our city to ensure animals are safe and happy. PeTA is not the only group who believes in animal rights or welfare - in fact some actually do believe in the welfare of the animals and not just media spotlight to get more money to mis-spend.
Well said Eithne. The shelter where I volunteered also was no-kill. They euthanized 2 animals in 3 years because the animals were too sick to make it. The cats were not in cages but socialized and together in rooms with litter pans, food, water, lots of climbing and scratching surfaces. PETA is a horrible organization and unfortunately they get these folks young and brain-wash them. Reminds me of the Moonies from some years ago. The ones living in the moonie population cannot see it for what it is. My husband's cousin was taken in by these people - it was very sad for the family and I see PETA in the same light.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
post #94 of 104
PeTA is most definitely trying to end pet ownership. They support breed-specific leglisation and Ingrid Newkirk wants to see all Pit Bulls exterminated.
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PETA has been a long-time supporter of BSL. PETA representatives have sat in on court cases, touting themselves as "experts" in support of pit bull bans and restrictions on pit bull ownership. PETA also writes letters in support of BSL to legislators all over the country.

If you email PETA directly and ask about their take on pit bulls, they will give you the same canned answer. They will tell you that pit bulls are the most abused dog on the planet, and it’s in their best interest that we let the breed die out, to end their suffering. They will never come right out and say they support killing all pit bulls. They will dance around the question with pre-written answers that they give everyone. They’ll tell you they believe in banning the breeding of pit bulls. But that’s not all they support, they support full out pit bull bans. They’ll try to sugarcoat their reasons for supporting BSL to throw you off.
http://www.wonderbull.com/blog/

If you want to read their official stance, here it the link. But be forewarned, you'll need your hip boots because it is pretty deep.
http://www.peta.org/about/hottopic007.asp
The logic is that Pits should die out for their own good. Oh and nice families don't adopt pit bulls, it says so right there on the PeTA website.

So what breed is next? Rotties? Dobies? Any breed of dog over 50 lbs? Tell me again they are not trying to end pet ownership?

And why does PeTA rail against "speciesism" in others but allow themselves the luxury of "breedism?" Simple, the rules they want to force upon others don't apply to themselves. That fits my definition of hypocrisy.
post #95 of 104
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Originally Posted by Susan9608 View Post
As I mentioned, from a purist perspective, they aren't even a true animal rights organization. They have a much more welfarist approach.
Welfarist approach?? What a joke. There approach is a terrorist approach!! Just like when they throw blood or red paint on people who are wearing fur. Now, I do not support the fur trade, but there is the right way and the wrong way to do things. When your force something on people, they will not listen. But as others have stated, PETA is no longer the good group they used to be. When you pass out literature to young school children that state "your mommy kills animals" with a graphic cartoon image of a woman with a blood covered knife stabbing a rabbit is just down right sick. There is nothing wrong with eating meat, if you choose to do so. Many other animals eat meat, why can't we? And, if you know anything about nutrion, you would know that people are meant to eat meat.
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Gee I'm surprised that PeTA is still allowing Geico to use that gecko in their insurance ads.

These are pitiful examples-style but no substance. And they are all typical of the sanctimonious hypocrites at PeTA doing their best to elbow their way into the media spotlight and create the impression they are doing something. As long as they have peopel brainwashed into thinking they are doing good, their naive members might be willing to overlook the fact that the top echelon is not above systematically applying the methods of terrorists to force their agenda on the public
Very good and well said!!
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PeTA is most definitely trying to end pet ownership. They support breed-specific leglisation and Ingrid Newkirk wants to see all Pit Bulls exterminated.
Yes they do!! There is a bill like this in my state now. I have to look and see if PETA supports it. I am almost certain they do.
post #96 of 104
I'm thinking maybe PETA has trolls with funds to pay for subscriptions, just to disrupt and cause an uproar. They are famous for this: Cause a commotion, then cut and run.

We'll see.
post #97 of 104
there is one thing peta does that i fully support.
the use of cute naked women in there ads and on the street
i have no idea what they where talking about last year in cleveland, could care less what the sign said., was to busy looking at the hmm assets
post #98 of 104
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
there is one thing peta does that i fully support.
the use of cute naked women in there ads and on the street
i have no idea what they where talking about last year in cleveland, could care less what the sign said., was to busy looking at the hmm assets
oh Bruce
post #99 of 104
Bruce! What are you like
post #100 of 104
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Originally Posted by Rosiemac View Post
Bruce! What are you like
hey, if 3 attractive women want to walk around naked.
how holding signs over there head.you dont really expect me to look at the signs do you?

really would it not be rude,and maybe even damange there self-image if guys did not look?

so really i was doing it for them, so they could keep a good self-image
its not like i enjoyed looking, i even drove past the spot a second time just make sure, i did not enjoy it....(that is my story and i am sticking to it)

and kenny was the one that was taking there pic not me
post #101 of 104
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
hey, if 3 attractive women want to walk around naked holding signs over there head.you dont really expect me to look at the signs do you?
No, i suppose not seeing as your a man
post #102 of 104
I don't care how naked and attractive they are. If they are from and support PETA, they are ugly to me and wouldn't give them the time of day.
post #103 of 104
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat View Post
I don't care how naked and attractive they are. If they are from and support PETA, they are ugly to me and wouldn't give them the time of day.
I know I would much rather see Carmelo than a naked guy in the street with PeTA signs
post #104 of 104
Are you folks going to return to the topic, or should I close the thread?
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