Want to Strangle the Cat

wolfsrun

TCS Member
Thread starter
Kitten
Joined
May 14, 2008
Messages
1
Purraise
0
Greetings,

I know that there have been a number of posts about cat people thinking of clever ways to get their stupid cats to shut up at 5:00 in the morning, but I'm at my wits end. My wife has two cats. We got the female first, and she seems to, at best, tolerate the younger male cat. We aren't really sure of their age becasue we rescued them from cat prison, but both are under three years old and the female is about a year older. The female beats the male cat around occasionally (especially at feeding time) and hisses at him constantly. They do play together, however, and both take turns doing the stalk-pounce-attack thing that is about the only thing interesting that these animals do.

I almost like the female cat. She's quiet, polite and patient. The male cat is noisy, obnoxious and dirty. I'd bother with the cat's names, but lets all be honest here. Cats are clearly too stupid to ever learn their names. You might think your cat knows that you've named him "Tinker Bell," but you're just deluding yourself. Your cat will respond to "Hey Idiot" said in the same tone of voice as "Tinker Bell" just as readily. After realizing this we basically just call them "brown cat" and "gray cat". Or, "Fat Cat" and "Fatter Cat".

Gray cat (the stupid male cat) has now decided to start howling at the top of his lungs at 5:00 AM. He knows this fills me with hate, so by the time I get to the bedroom door, he's already run down two flights of stairs to the cat room, where the litter box and feeding area are. I'm still not sure whether the female has put him up to this, but she seems to hang out and observe. It's quite possible that the female cat is threatening the male cat with a beating if he doesn't wake me up every morning so I trudge down and feed them.

I tried spray bottles, throwing shoes and yelling, but nothing works. I'd like to get shock collar, but my wife won't let me. I also never actually beat the cat.

Lately I've taken to waking up as soon as he yells and throwing him outside, or locking him in the downstairs bathroom where we can't hear him until 7:00 AM - feeding time.

We tried leaving a bowl of food out, but those fat moochers just eat the entire bowl in the first five minutes, then throw it up, then eat the vomit and throw it up again, then eat each other's vomit, then fight over the vomit -- at this point its so disgusting that I throw up.

We have a new baby so there is no time to play with the damn cat every night to tire him out. I'd like to lock him in the cat room at night, but that isn't fair to the female cat - who would have to be locked in with him so she doesn't take a dump on the kitchen floor in the middle of the night.

I just need some concrete suggestions before I strangle the cat.
(that's sarcasm for all you SPA people, BTW).

We can't do things like run a vaccum cleaner becasue of the new baby. I'd really like to get that shock collar - with my own personal remote control.

Meow! Meow! ZAP!

Please help,

Owner of Gray Cat.
 

goldenkitty45

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Aug 29, 2005
Messages
19,900
Purraise
44
Location
SW Minnesota
In this case I'd advise you to rehome both cats. Its obvious you don't understand cats in general and eventually will resort to physical harm. Cats are not dogs; they are more independent and you don't understand their actions and why they do things they do.

I could dispute all of what you said (starting with cat's knowing their names) but I feel its probably pointless.

Before your cats come to physical harm by you, find them a new home and I pray your baby is not one that crys a lot (at 2am in the morning) - cause I fear you just might put the baby in the basement!


BTW you CAN run a vacuum and another other household chore with a baby - its better for the baby to learn to sleep thru noise rather then be "quiet" cause the baby is sleeping!
 

jcat

Mo(w)gli's can opener
Veteran
Joined
Feb 13, 2003
Messages
73,213
Purraise
9,851
Location
Mo(w)gli Monster's Lair
It's a bit late in my time zone to go wading through satire, so I'll cut to the point.

If your male cat wants to eat at 5 a.m., that's not unusual, and the simplest solution would be to buy automatic feeders with timers (the best investment I ever made for my "gotta eat at 5 a.m. kitty".) One for each cat, since there's been some "beating" at meal times.

If you feed dry, put a measured amount in each feeder before going to bed, to prevent overeating and vomiting, and set the timers for 5 a.m.. If your cats usually eat wet food, get feeders with cool packs, so that you can fill them at night.

There are a number of different brands of feeders - check online, or at Petco/PetSmart.
 

dara678

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Aug 30, 2005
Messages
56
Purraise
0
it sounds like you really are tolerating the presence of the two cats because your wife loves them. i agree with the above poster -- if you even feel the urge to be cruel to one of them, it is better for all parties involved to give the cats a better place to live. since your hands are full with the new baby, this may be the solution for all.

we keep our cats in our bedroom at night but there's also a little bowl of food there in case they get hungry. they never seem to complain to be let out though -- even when i oversleep till late in the morning. i think maybe another reason is the male kitty isn't getting enough human attention and thus may be asking for it this way.

maybe you're more of a dog person? cats aren't right for everybody. I have three of them and love them as I would my own children, but i can understand that a lot of people can never feel the same way.
 

cococat

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Feb 2, 2007
Messages
4,953
Purraise
12
Location
USA
Your sarcasm and literary way of writing to vent is probably not going to reach its target audience and make people laugh or identify with you on a forum of cat lovers and crazy cat ladies. I am sure you mean the cats no harm, and might be a little overwhelmed with a new baby, but the cats might be feeling the change too and might be a bit overwhelmed with new baby. Have you heard of a feliway diffuser? You will want to use one of these in your home to help the kitties adjust.

If you locked male kitty in the room you could put a litterbox outside of that cat room for female kitty if she needs it. Really, if you have two cats, you need at least 2 litterboxes anyway, I mean, they need their space. But ideally, I want to second the motion of the timed feeder as a great idea if you know they are just bugging you for food. Suddenly, the feeder becomes the source of food, not you. It really helps in some cases.
 

missymotus

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
May 8, 2005
Messages
9,234
Purraise
254
Originally Posted by wolfsrun

We have a new baby so there is no time to play with the damn cat every night to tire him out
I'm sure life is a bit hectic with the new baby, but 20-30 minutes of play in the evening (at the least) followed by a meal of wet food should help him sleep through the night.

Don't forget that the cats are also adjusting to the new baby.
 

althekitty

TCS Member
Alpha Cat
Joined
Mar 20, 2007
Messages
632
Purraise
1
Location
Nottinghamshire, U.K
I have a feeling that some of your comments were put to antagonise people yet thankfully you have been given some great advise. I wonder what quality of life your cats are having at the moment as you in particular are not enjoying them. A new baby is obviously time comsuming and all your efforts will be spent there. I think you should consider re-homing your cats, please don't just chuck them out. They are no doubt reacting to the new environment with new baby but they will sense your frustration too. They are actually far more intelligent than you give them credit for. I would also suggest that you should run the vacuum cleaner as a dirty house won't be good for anyone as cats are very clean animals too so I would try not to let your hygiene slip, it wouldn't be good for baby and there are millions of people who have vacuumed with a baby in the house
Throwing shoes at your cats will only serve to scare your kitties and make the situation worse and to be honest if that is what you are doing I hope they make a right mess all over your floors, I wouldn't blame them. I am concerned about the welfare of your cats as from your post I think you maybe lack certain skills to be able to care for your cats needs. I just hope you behave better with your new baby.
 

cc12

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Messages
3,370
Purraise
4
Location
Pacific Northwest
I am sure you purposely wrote in a manner that would offend as many people as possible. People on this site love their cats, you know this so I am guessing you hate cats and people who love them.
If your situation is real then rehome the male cat. You don't like him and he most likely is not a big fan of yours either. Do yourselves a favor and part company.
 

hissy

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Feb 19, 2001
Messages
34,872
Purraise
77
If you tell me city/state you live in, perhaps I can network with others and liberate these kitties out of their version of what sounds like kitty hell. Then you can concentrate all that creative energy on the new baby and your wife who also must be worn down from your own apparent anger and frustration that seems to rear its ugly head in this posting.

Also please read this article-it was written for just this situation


http://www.thecatsite.com/Behavior/1...t-Crazies.html
 

boringjen

TCS Member
Adult Cat
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Messages
113
Purraise
1
Location
Arlington, VA
I'm thinking the OP is just frustrated and hasn't yet been "initiated" into the Crazy Cat Lady club, so his tone comes across a little umm...harsh.
It sounds like he's well on his way from being cat-hating to cat-tolerant to cat-loving (my ex-husband went through this, and there really should be a 12 step program for the poor husbands of Cat Ladies). He even admitted he kind of likes the female cat. Give it time, lol.

However, it does seem obvious that the OP isn't interested in actually hurting the cats, as he takes every opportunity to point out that he doesn't intend to hurt them. I know I threaten my cats' lives several times a day. Do I really intend to "take them back to the shelter" or "beat them"? Nope. I have also mused about buying an "invisible fence" to string up around the kitchen to keep the little heathens out of there.

Anyway, OP, try feeding the cat later at night. I stopped feeding mine so early in the evening because they were hungry much earlier, and took it upon themselves to drive me crazy in the wee hours. Mine eat around 8-9pm now and don't bother me if I sleep in.
 

rang_27

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
May 28, 2002
Messages
4,304
Purraise
5
Location
Milwaukee, WI
I will try to ignore all of your sarcasim because I suspect that you either don't understand cats, or do not understand people enough to know how offensive some of your comments are.

The solution of a timed feeder is a good. What ever you do, do not give in and get up. You are reinforcing the behavior. When he meows, and your respond by feeding him, you just taught him if I meow I get fed.
 

abstract

TCS Member
Adult Cat
Joined
Jun 14, 2007
Messages
234
Purraise
1
I agree with everyone else that's posted a reply to you... rehome your cats. And if your wife doesn't agree, let her see the post you made here. She'll realize that eventually you are going to reach the point of seriously harming those animals because you don't have the patience or compassion to learn to live with them. I'll also say that I truly pity your child - animals are much like children (Yes, you have to play with children, and feed them when they're hungry, and clean up after them, listen to them yell and ignore you for no good reason... sound familiar?) and if you can't handle a cat, you're going to make a sorry parent.
 

camille eonich

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Jun 13, 2007
Messages
96
Purraise
1
Location
NC
Oh I got a good laugh from that. Cats I know but I have a puppy for the first time in a long time and I can relate to your feelings.


I'm sure that if the OP truly had bad intentions for tha cats they wouldn't be taking the time to post here.


If it had gotten to this point then I would either do what the poster that suggestion getting feeders on timers said to do OR I would make them go cold turkey. Close your bedroom door and lock it with the baby inside of course. Make sure that you can stay in there for at least a couple of days. Now when the cats start at 5:00 AM don't make a sound and whatever you do don't go and feed them. Continue to do so until they quit making all the racket then run out and feed them real quick. Rinse and repeat until the don't equate a time or noise with feeding.


Also practice this. When you are getting their food reasy and they are running all about the place making noises like mad, everytime they make a noise stop moving. When they shut up continue om mkaing their dinner. They'll get the idea that all the sqaulling makes you take longer to feed them and shut up.
 

duchess15

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Nov 23, 2006
Messages
3,825
Purraise
14
Location
Wishing I were anywhere but here
If you can't respect your cats who are part of your family, I really don't understand why you have them. They certainly deserve better than what they are getting.

It's just a shame that the "human child" always takes precedence over any existing pets. Trying to raise your child in a protected bubble is not going to help them later in life.

Sarcasm is so unbecoming. I would rehome the cats for their sake and well-being.
 

jack31

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Nov 1, 2007
Messages
1,819
Purraise
15
Location
Cincinnati, OH
To the OP--I understand your frustration. I currently have a cat that bites me but not my husband. Its getting old. Although I don't have a baby, I spend 10 hours a day caring for 6 month old twins. After a 10 hour day, my patience tends to run low, and I come home, and the cat bites me. I don't want to deal with it. I have found the best thing to do, is just walk away and ignore him. So my advice is, #1 understand that the makeup of your whole household has changed. Their is a new being in your home and it affects everyone, including pets. Try and spend 20-30 mintues of attention on the cats. It seems like a lot but it isn't--maybe the 20 minutes needs to happen at 3 am because you're awake. Just reassure them that this baby hasn't replaced them.

However if you really think that caring for two cats and a baby is just too much, you need to make a decision if the cats staying with you is the best for them? I won't judge you either way--its not my place.

Now then
I'm personally, not a cat lover. I have a cat, who I love. But I am not cat lover.

I understand how one person in a household can have a pet that others in the household don't care for and only tolerate. It doesn't mean that the one who loves it should have to go without.

I firmly believe that this man is looking for help--and although his post may have offended some of the TCS members I don't think it was meant to. I also don't believe he would truly hurt these cats.

I do think it was nice of some of you to actually offer positive advice--as in, there are ways to get around what the cat is doing.

The only way someone will learn is if someone teaches them. I grew up with dogs--if they nipped us we smacked their nose--it stopped this issue. You can't do that with a cat--I didn't know that 7 months ago, then I got a cat, and you guys said--that doesn't work with cats.

Step down off the soap box and offer good advice.

Leslie
 

laureen227

Darksome Duo!
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 3, 2003
Messages
19,260
Purraise
387
Location
Denton TX
anyone else notice this is the only post by the OP? can we say
?



[ok, there's not a troll in the choices!
]
 

abstract

TCS Member
Adult Cat
Joined
Jun 14, 2007
Messages
234
Purraise
1
Honestly I don't think advice is going to work with this guy - he's clearly already made his decision of what he thinks of these cats and like another poster said, I don't think he's going to listen to anything we say.
 

camille eonich

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Jun 13, 2007
Messages
96
Purraise
1
Location
NC
I hate this about most pet forums, I mean the knee jerk reactions. Why would someone who doesn't care take the time to search out this forum and write a post describing all of the problems and worries that this person is experiencing if they didn't truly want help?


Yet they get attacked instead. To all of you who chose to take the time to post your negative feelings wouldn't your time be better spent searching for something that you can HELP with?
 

mschauer

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Jun 17, 2007
Messages
6,753
Purraise
2,338
Location
Houston, Tx
Originally Posted by Camille Eonich

I hate this about most pet forums, I mean the knee jerk reactions. Why would someone who doesn't care take the time to search out this forum and write a post describing all of the problems and worries that this person is experiencing if they didn't truly want help?

Yet they get attacked instead. To all of you who chose to take the time to post your negative feelings wouldn't your time be better spent searching for something that you can HELP with?
In all human communications being offensive is not likely to result in polite, informative responses from others. The OP is badly in need of learning this lesson.
 
Top