Is this still America?

hmm no america died some time ago.
i keep hoping in time people will get sick of it, and take there country back.

That is unbelievable! I have nothing against Muslims or their faith, but this is not even an American student, and he can threaten an American because he doesn't like his DOG? I think they should pack his little butt up and send him back to Somalia if he is so offended by dogs.

this is often called muslim creep. or Creeping Sharia.
its about how they expect us to change to match what they want.
same thing some countries in europe are dealing with.
there have been many examples of this type of thing, and over all, people just keep giving in.

it was to late, when america just sat there, and let the clinton sale defense companies to the chinese.

over all if its not sports, etc. 90% of us dont care.
if you try to stand up for things, they start screaming racism. SO to be PC people just sit there and shut up.

Didn't you know there is "Freedom of Religion" in America? Oh, unless it is has to deal with celebrating Christmas, or if its on our money, in our Pledge of Allegence, or anything that might have anything to do with the actual majority of people who are legal and permenant citizens.

The only thing I could say, and I don't remember if it was in the article or not, but is the school state funded or church funded? If it was church funded, it's going to be hard to fight them. Probably religion trumps disability. And, it didn't say in the article what state the University is in. I'm not familiar with St Cloud State University.

I just feel bad for the student, and the poor sweet lab with a muzzle on! Like a lab would hurt anyone, but it was a good precaution if they were taunting him. They are VERY protective.

The Lab doesn't have a muzzle on, it is a Gentle Leader. They are used to help keep the dog under control, in a nicer way.

My comments on the situation would probably get me banned.

The school is located in Minnesota (St. Cloud).

I wouldn't have left the school. If the Somali kid isn't supposed to be able to touch a dog because of his religion then it's the Somali kid's responsibility to make sure he doesn't. I wouldn't cave to this person or go out of my way to accomodate him and cater to his culture when he's the one living here.

St. Cloud State, is in my state...MN. Actually less than an hour away from where I live!!! It is a beautiful campus, and I "Believe" it is state\\federally funded...but not totally sure. Being a university, I am pretty sure it is state funded, most colleges that are more religion focused, than secularly focused, are funded as non profit...meaning no state\\federal funding. I went to a Christian college, and they have to get grants, and support from people...now that I have graduated, eventually I would like to be a supporter of the college, because it was a wonderful place for me, and I want other people to be blessed by it as I was.

Anyway...back to the topic...at hand...

I guess in this situation, I am not really sure what I would have done; he did leave because he didn't feel safety for his service animal...I would be tempted to leave had I been given a threat on my dog's life too, especially when that animal is one trained for a specific purpose to better my life and independence! Dogs that detect seizures are not a dime a dozen, you know!

True, I do believe he may have had the issue dealt with by simply going to the administration of the school too...I highly doubt that if the admin knew that this particular kid would be allowed near the dog.

I just don't know where I would stand on something like this, because threats aren't always just threats, but they may also stop there often times...I just don't know...America has bigger problems to deal with than a kid threatening a dog, in my opinion; and it's not 'kids' that start things...it is the example that they are given from the time they are little...it's not really youth that need so much discipline, as the adults that influence them...

The article doesn't elaborate on the details of the threats that were made. The article does say that the teacher was told about a threat being made, so who knows? High schools are strange places these days.

It also says students taunted the dog. Doesn't go into detail, so no idea what really happened.

From what tiny bit of information I have on Islam, apparently black dogs are considered even worse than the rest (the dog in the article is a black lab).

In any case, immigrant or not, the law is what it is. There are laws protecting service dogs, and they need to get over it or go to a private school. Private schools are a very good option for people who can't/won't tolerate what goes on in public schools.

Precisely.

I had to wonder a bit about the article.
I know dogs are considered "unclean", but I have Muslim (Turkish) relatives and neighbors, and a number of Turkish/North African students, and guess what? Many of them have dogs, including indoor dogs and black dogs.

I think this really is a cultural, rather than a religious issue, and the school administration should have put its foot down.

putting your foot down is not PC in america.

That is just sick. Doesn't sound like the student who made the threat was discipline in any way - HE is the one that should have been kicked out of the school - not the boy and his dog.

Why oh why do we have to bow down to others coming in this country and catering to what THEY want????? Where will it stop???

The school investigation revealed that someone said that someone else said they'd kill the dog, not an outright direct threat...it sounds like the school needs to address the cultural issues of the situation.
Also, this won't be the only time that the student-teacher, esp. since he plans to work in the special education field, will have to deal with issues with needing his companion dog 24/7 - sp.ed. classes tend to have students with allergies to pets, etc. for a while, in my daughter's se class, she & the others couldn't wear wool because a couple of other students were so allergic and the allergic reactions combined with already compromised bodies were more dangerous than they are for the "regular" population.

Sad, but true.

I don't think this is a cultural anything. As the article said, he had trained at another school with a lot of Somali people with no problems.

My neighborhood has one of the highest populations of Somali people in America (seconded to a suburb in California) so I know a little about Somali culture and threatening people because they have dogs isn't part of it.

IMO, this is a matter of a high school brat being let to get away with something he shouldn't have. If everyone involved were white, that's what this thread would be about, not some conspiracy theory about Islam taking over America. Bizarre.

So if you repeat something long enough, it will become true?

Yes, it's true that muslims have become an easy scapegoat for the media and for those who feel insecure about what "America" has become. It's happening in other countries too. But just because people are now obsessed with it, doesn't make it true. It just seems like a case of mass hysteria to me.

I agree. There seems something fishy here. The student never heard the doggie death threat some one else told him about it. There just wasn't enough specific evidence. All seemed circumstantial at best. And I would never hold as something as true just hearing one side of the story. I would want to hear more about it before making up my mind.

I do believe there are some radical muslims out there that believe in the convert of die but I just don't think they are hiding in every building. And I do believe it is easy for people to take advantage of the wariness of the general public and blame the muslims for wrongdoing to justify their own actions.

if it had been a normal student, and rumors where going on.
That student would have been kicked out in a heart beat.
but because, the student is black + muslim nothing happens.

of course not, I am married to muslim. Lived in a muslim country.

but there still est. 3 million of the convert or die, That is alot of killing someone got to do.

I don't have a clue what these links are supposed to prove. Everyone knows there are violent radical Islamic people, don't need someone's blog to tell me that.

I just don't think it's sensical to take what a bunch of snotty high school kids did to someone with a disability and immediately yell "OMG! Islamic kids! It must be part of the global onslaught against anyone not Islamic!!!Onety-one111!!!" In cases where people actually are trying to push radical Islam or death, that's appropriate. Otherwise, it weakens the defense against the actual problem.

This kid's Somali-ness has naught to do with him being a brat who should have been punished appropriately. Especially when your own article says he was at another school with a similar population and had no problems. Especially when I've yet to meet a religious nut among the Somali population and know that while there probably are some just like there are in any population of any people of any religion, it isn't widespread or cultural.

he needs to shipped back to where he comes from ,
since he does not know how to act here.