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post #31 of 41
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
It is not a big deal, you want to vote, you get an I.D. simple as that.
As I said before, what rules require you to have an id? And fine, require one, just don't charge people for it if they can't afford it. What exactly is your argument against that?
post #32 of 41
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
As I said before, what rules require you to have an id? And fine, require one, just don't charge people for it if they can't afford it. What exactly is your argument against that?

I would hope that even someone who is poor enough to need government benefits would have to have some form of picture identification to even register to claim those benefits.

Would you show up to collect unemployment benefits and expect them to give them to you without proving you are actually who you say? How about food stamps? I don't think they just hand those out without verifying who they are giving them to? Homeless people - typically adults, who at least at some point in their lives probably had a driver's license, or something to identify them.

Even if one costs $12, that's a dollar a month. If you can't afford to free up a dollar a month for something as invaluable as an identification card, you probably don't need the benefits having one would gain for you.
post #33 of 41
I believe the issue is more the requirements to get a valid government issued id. Colorado ran into all sorts of issues when they implemented laws so that people had to prove they were citizens to receive social services. Many of the elderly do not have birth certificates and sometimes the rules can be applied inconsistently. Losing your papers or letting them lapse can result in a daunting task to get it all sorted out. So in our quest to block the illegals, we are denying legal citizens their rights.
post #34 of 41
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
As I said before, what rules require you to have an id? And fine, require one, just don't charge people for it if they can't afford it. What exactly is your argument against that?
The rule is not that you are required to have an I.D., the rule is you have to have an I.D. to vote. Why is that so hard? That is the rule. No one is forcing anyone to get an I.D.

And, of course, people should be required to pay a nominal cost for the I.D. to cover administration charges. Someone in the State government is taking the picture and making the I.D., yes, there should be a charge. And yes, you should have proof you are who you say you are. That includes having access to your SS card and birth certificate.

I'm sorry but a person cannot say, "Hey, I'm homeless so I don't have to follow the rules" UNLESS they they do not want to vote or get any aid at all.
post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
I believe the issue is more the requirements to get a valid government issued id. Colorado ran into all sorts of issues when they implemented laws so that people had to prove they were citizens to receive social services. Many of the elderly do not have birth certificates and sometimes the rules can be applied inconsistently. Losing your papers or letting them lapse can result in a daunting task to get it all sorted out. So in our quest to block the illegals, we are denying legal citizens their rights.
My grandmother was born in 1901, she did not have a birth certificate.
But she had an I.D. and a SS number So that argument does not wash.
You can prove you are who you say other ways, through church baptism records for one.

Darn straight you should have to prove you are a citizen to receive social services.
I think it is a travesty that illegal aliens and people that have never paid a dime into Social Security be able to collect ss benefits, it is ridiculous.
post #36 of 41
I am always asked for my ID when I vote, not my voter's registration card, so I thought that it was required. I looked it up to be sure.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/regt...qualifications
I was suprised to see this (when registering to vote):
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If you do not have a FL DL#, FL ID card#, or SSN, you must write “NONE†in the box.
From the same website:
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Helpful Hints
Make sure all information on your voter information card is correct.
If you do not know the location of your polling place, call the office of your Supervisor of Elections for directions BEFORE election day.
Take your Florida Driver's License (or another form of picture identification showing your signature) to the polls.
Strange.
IMO, a photo ID should be required.
post #37 of 41
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
I believe the issue is more the requirements to get a valid government issued id. Colorado ran into all sorts of issues when they implemented laws so that people had to prove they were citizens to receive social services. Many of the elderly do not have birth certificates and sometimes the rules can be applied inconsistently. Losing your papers or letting them lapse can result in a daunting task to get it all sorted out. So in our quest to block the illegals, we are denying legal citizens their rights.
Laws requiring ID for government services don't deny legal citizens their right to those services. They just have to comply with the procedure, albeit sometimes complicated. That goes with being an adult. Losing your papers or letting them expire is also part of that. And anyone with diminised mental capacity should have already had someone appointed to take care of their legal matters, whether a family member or a social worker.

The day and age of people without birth certificates is long gone. And there are a number of other documents that are legal proof of age to obtain an ID card.
post #38 of 41
I know a young Lakota woman, 21 years old, who only has Tribal ID. This ID does not get her into colleges/schools off the rez. She cannot drive off rez with this. However, she can vote The state of SD recognizes tribal ID.

When she was born, her mother did not name her right away. She is Baby Girl _____ on her birth certificate still. Her mom has many issues and just never got around to getting the certificate amended. She doesn't have a SS card for the same reason - birth certificate issues. For the last three years she has been trying to get the birth certificate taken care of on her own so she can get the other forms of ID and student loans, etc. Wish I could go back there and help her with it!
post #39 of 41
Arizona requires ID to vote. My drivers' license has my old address on it but, my voter ID has the current one and I have to bring along a piece of election-related mail with my name and address on it.

I have to show ID to cash a check or to buy decongestants (don't get carded for liquor or cigarettes any longer) - why not to vote?

Most states issue non-drivers' IDs. Since her stroke, my mother no longer has a valid drivers' license and she uses her military ID (my Pops is retired).
post #40 of 41
Tsk, Tsk. These people should have know better than to flout the rules.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24490932/?GT1=43001
post #41 of 41
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Yes, they should have. They knew the rules and just thought they were above them. No such luck. The rules are for nuns also.
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