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post #1 of 18
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An Austrian incarcerated his daughter in the cellar for 24 years; he had been sexually abusing her since she was 11. She bore him 7 children. One child died shortly after birth, three were adopted by the father and his wife, and the other three were also held captive in the cellar their whole lives.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7371043.stm
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...=googletoolbar

Unbelievable. How do people come up with ideas like this? His wife claims she knew nothing about it, which is possible, but people are going to be saying "she must have known", as they did in the case of Rosemary West. http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...t/index_1.html
post #2 of 18
Heard that on the news this morning and I'm still picking my jaw up off the floor.
post #3 of 18
i just saw this and the most incredible thing i read was that this monster (that is the kindest term i can use on the internet for him) is facing FIFTEEN YEARS in prison???
he locks his daughter up for 24yrs and those other three children for their entire lives, and he is only facing 15yrs?!?!?!
he rapes her from the age of 11 on and he is only facing 15yrs? that better be a misprint, or perhaps he will get 15yrs for each count of rape, added end to end, this um less than human person deserves to spend the rest of his life never seeing the light of day

dont know what its like in his country as far as prison, but even in this country a prisoner is allowed one hour out of their cell (those on death row)- because its considered too cruel not to......
but he could do that to his daughter and other children/grandchildren

sorry i am totally blown away and disgusted and just horrified.
someone had to know.
or suspect.

incredible
post #4 of 18
I swear I read a book about this once, or perhaps this is a combination of stories that are just sort of slamming together in my head.

This is so... well.... up. I don't really have other words for it.
post #5 of 18
What the ? I don't even know what else to say, besides I think that's just.. very, very screwed up.
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by lookingglass View Post
I swear I read a book about this once, or perhaps this is a combination of stories that are just sort of slamming together in my head.

This is so... well.... up. I don't really have other words for it.
The story reminded me of the book, Flowers in the Attic.

15 years is not enough but at his age, he will probably die in prison. That poor woman will have a very difficult time ahead of her. She has so much to overcome as do the children.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
The story reminded me of the book, Flowers in the Attic.

15 years is not enough but at his age, he will probably die in prison. That poor woman will have a very difficult time ahead of her. She has so much to overcome as do the children.
Good call on Flowers in the Attic. This is kind of like that. The only thing is that VC Andrews was far more entertaining with her prose.

Now all you TCSers that are going to run out and find that book... it's sort of a trashy/scandal/romance/icky/guilty fun book to read. Total beach material.
post #8 of 18
I can't figure out how his wife couldn't have known. For over two decades she didn't wonder about all the dissappearing extra food, toilet paper etc. he must have brought in the house?

It is a really disturbing case. How can someone be so obviously mentally ill and still manage keeping up appereances? Also, according to The Times, the kids seem to be very well considering the way they have lived. The human mind is astonishingly adaptive.
post #9 of 18
I'm still speechless after seeing it on the news yesterday morning
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The story reminded me of the book, Flowers in the Attic.
I remember reading that, and your right Jana it does
post #10 of 18
This is horrible
post #11 of 18
I wonder where his wife thought those 3 children that were living with them came from? Something is off here for sure.
post #12 of 18
It seems like nothing that could ever happen in real life. Seems like a horror movie.

That poor poor woman. She will likely never be normal again.
post #13 of 18
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The man claimed that his daughter had run away to join a sect, and had dumped the kids on his doorstep. I just saw more footage of the house on television - the "cellar" wasn't directly under the house - it was a bunker under the backyard. Reportedly, he bought groceries, clothing, etc., outside Amstetten, and only went to the bunker at night. Whether he burned the trash is anybody's guess.

The latest report is that he had a rape conviction from the 60s or 70s. That didn't prevent him from adopting the "dumped" children because all records are erased after a certain number of years.

He's facing a life sentence, but "life" in Austria means about 15 years. There's no death penalty.
post #14 of 18
I can't even imagine. Wasn't there another story recently out of Austria involving a pervert who kept a young woman has his sex slave and she just recently escaped?

This does remind me of "Flowers in the Attic" only on a whole, new sick level. And that serial killer/rapist story from Crime Library... wow. I think that people usually "know" something is going on, but don't want to acknowledge it. The Fred West story seems even more obvious- seriously, he molests girls, lots of rapes happen when he's around, he's a sexual pervert with his wife, he molests his daughter, co-workers say he's obsessed with corpses and dismemberment- and no one does anything!! I wonder if the whole story about the man in Austria will come out and if it will be similar to West's.
post #15 of 18
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I can't even imagine. Wasn't there another story recently out of Austria involving a pervert who kept a young woman has his sex slave and she just recently escaped?

This does remind me of "Flowers in the Attic" only on a whole, new sick level. And that serial killer/rapist story from Crime Library... wow. I think that people usually "know" something is going on, but don't want to acknowledge it. The Fred West story seems even more obvious- seriously, he molests girls, lots of rapes happen when he's around, he's a sexual pervert with his wife, he molests his daughter, co-workers say he's obsessed with corpses and dismemberment- and no one does anything!! I wonder if the whole story about the man in Austria will come out and if it will be similar to West's.
That was Natascha Kampusch: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle3834569.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3835640.ece
The articles get into the old sexual assault charge, data protection, and questions of police incompetence in Austria.

I read "Flowers in the Attic" decades ago. I wonder how many people will (re)read it now?
post #16 of 18
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That was Natascha Kampusch: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle3834569.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3835640.ece
The articles get into the old sexual assault charge, data protection, and questions of police incompetence in Austria.

That was a good article. On one hand it's hard to believe that nobody knew, but on the other hand you always hear stories about people who remain blind to what's right in front of them and truly didn't know.
post #17 of 18
If the guy's wife really didn't know about this, then I really feel sorry for her because she is just now finding out the type of person her husband really is.

Regarding the guy that did this, why can't guys who do stuff like this get their "attachments" un-attached? I think that would be part of a proper punishment.
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by WELDRWOMN View Post
If the guy's wife really didn't know about this, then I really feel sorry for her because she is just now finding out the type of person her husband really is.
I felt that way too, until I found out he served jail time for rape during their marriage.
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