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post #1 of 15
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Just saw this on the news.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ne...0,522090.story

Thoughts?
post #2 of 15
I had not heard about it, but if Sharpton has his big mouth going on about it, you can be sure this man will never get justice if things have been mishandled on the part of law enforcement. He always seems to do more harm than good. It is a shame that the black community allows this blowhard to speak for them in some instances, when there are so many level headed, educated, deeply good black citizens that could do a much better job.
I hope this does not come across as racist, because it is not meant to be. I just don't like Al Sharpton, and I think his muckraking ways are just to get his face on tv, not because he truly cares about his race.
post #3 of 15
Just a few random one liners from me...

Never a good idea to say "I'm gonna get my gun" when people already have theirs handy.

Another dumb move by a career criminal, this one cost him his life.

Police officers are trained to empty their guns into the target, a 19 round clip empties quick when someone is threatening your life.

Ah, Big Al is out and about. I thought the wind from the North was a bit blustery today.
post #4 of 15
Didn't he empty his clip and put another one in and empty that one also.

I have to wonder if there is anything a police officer could do to be charged.
Doesn't seem like it. And the gun remark is what the cop said after he realized the people killed had no weapons. I think the entire thing stinks to high heaven and don't blame the Reverend Al one bit.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Didn't he empty his clip and put another one in and empty that one also.

I have to wonder if there is anything a police officer could do to be charged.
Doesn't seem like it. And the gun remark is what the cop said after he realized the people killed had no weapons. I think the entire thing stinks to high heaven and don't blame the Reverend Al one bit.

Cindy, the officers *were* charged and tried in court. The officer testified under oath that he heard Bell's friend remark about a gun.

What should the police have done? There is a heated confrontation between two groups of people, which was steadily escalating. An officer hears a man say "Get my gun", sees him reach into his waistband. This man is a passenger in the car which hits the police van *twice* as well as the detective himself!!! Putting yourself in the detective's shoes for a moment, is it hard to imagine why he thought his life and the lives of his fellow officers was in imminent danger? This isn't happening in slow motion, and there is no time for the officers to have a conference about the events taking place.

To their credit, most of the time the cops make the right call. Being fallible humans, however, they can also make tragic mistakes.

The police get mere seconds to respond to a situation - the rest of us get to chew over it at our leisure from the comfort and safety of home.
post #6 of 15
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My main issue is this is I wonder why they had to shoot 50 times? Are they that bad a shot? In fact, if you look at how many shots were fired by each officer, it appears that two out of three of them had some self-restraint. Or executed their training professionally. I think perhaps that there's more to the story, but I guess we'll never know.
post #7 of 15
I also wonder why he was shot so many times.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
Especially as it wasn't actually him who said `get my gun' or whatever was allegedly said.
post #9 of 15
This is a definte event where you really had to be there. Both sides are saying such different things. The one thing is, the guys who were shot at (and survived) said that the police didn't identify themselves. That they just came around the corner and started shooting, for no reason. I have trouble believing that anyone would do that. I mean, why? Would they really think they could get away with just 'randomly killing' some people? So because of that I guess I lean a bit toward the police's side of the story. As for needing 50 shots, they definetly need more time at the practice range.
post #10 of 15
i remember when it happened. i thought it was horrid! those cops shouldve gone to jail. one or 2 bullets -then ya, i could see them getting away with community service and an apology ...but FIFTY BULLETS??????

come on! thats ridiculous. what were they doing, trying to make hamburger?
i felt so bad for the bride
post #11 of 15
even the firearms fourms i read.
all question the reason for 50 shots fired.
post #12 of 15
I see the Reverend Al got arrested yesterday for "civil disobedience" regarding this case. He isn't letting this one go.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I see the Reverend Al got arrested yesterday for "civil disobedience" regarding this case. He isn't letting this one go.
You bet he isn't. Should a civil suit be won, the lawyers will get a third and good ol' Al will get his kickback.
post #14 of 15
You ever notice how he always has the weirdest look on his face?
post #15 of 15
well in this case, i want answers also.
sorry but 50 shots, no returned gunfire? something not right here.
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