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post #91 of 271
3/22/03 at 12:45pm
Yes. We're broadcasting, to the Iraqi people, on the radio. The coalition wants it clearly stated that the Iraqi people are not being targeted.

Some Western journalists have been killed. Four ITN people were killed near Basra. They were wandering about, on their own. Blundering around, in a war zone is just as dumb as playing "chicken" with a bulldozer.
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post #92 of 271
3/22/03 at 4:20pm
Hi, I'm new to this forum. What I am really annoyed with is the "Hollywood " aspect of the media. It is kind of sickening to watch Matt Lauer wearing his shades in Kuwait. Are we supposed to take him seriously? Who's next Geraldo? They want us to take them seriously and feel like they are non biased. Are they going to Advertise upcoming segments of The Today Show with - The Morning Show Goes to Kuwait this Week!
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post #93 of 271
3/22/03 at 4:21pm
Sue really IS my neighbor.........
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post #94 of 271
3/22/03 at 4:27pm
oh that figures Kim!
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post #95 of 271
3/22/03 at 5:14pm
Thread Starter 
Another reporter, an independent photographer, was killed by a suicide bomber while trying to enter northern Iraq. I have to say, while I appreciate getting the news, and the way they are reporting with the troops is amazing, I hope these journalists know that they are taking their lives in their own hands. These soldiers can't "protect" them then the firing starts.
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post #96 of 271
3/22/03 at 5:44pm
Hi, Sue. Actually, Geraldo is reporting from Afghanistan, for FoxNews.

I guess the crooks had a field day, in Manhattan today - the cops were tied up, dealing with 125,000+ protesters. For people who are supposedly compassionate, they aren't very considerate of their fellow citizens.

At last count, 52 nations have signed on, with the coalition.

There is a "support the troops" rally at a local VFW post, tomorrow. I may put on my "Don't Tread on Me" T-shirt and go.

On the protester note: I saw one young woman getting arrested, in San Francisco. She stomped her widdle foot and cried. Considering how many cops are ex-military and Reserves, they're acting with admirable restraint.
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post #97 of 271
3/22/03 at 5:52pm
Yeah but what up with Matt Lauer?
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post #98 of 271
3/22/03 at 5:56pm
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Originally posted by Kims Neighbor
Hi, I'm new to this forum. What I am really annoyed with is the "Hollywood " aspect of the media. It is kind of sickening to watch Matt Lauer wearing his shades in Kuwait. Are we supposed to take him seriously? Who's next Geraldo? They want us to take them seriously and feel like they are non biased. Are they going to Advertise upcoming segments of The Today Show with - The Morning Show Goes to Kuwait this Week!

I feel you and agree completely! Wonder why we're so desensitized to violence

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post #99 of 271
3/22/03 at 5:57pm
He's in Kuwait waiting to open up saddam's tomb.
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post #100 of 271
3/22/03 at 5:58pm
Please forgive me....but I had to go there.........
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post #101 of 271
3/22/03 at 5:59pm
What ?????
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post #102 of 271
3/22/03 at 6:02pm
I just want to say that I hate the term "shock and awe" they use it to death and throw it in as if it is some sort of hollywood block buster. We are over in a country that for the most part dispises us, and who has a very distorted view of what america is all about and we are encountering serious opposition and doing some serious damage to specific targets nothing shocking or awe inspiring about that.

I hear the actors and actresses are being encouraged to air their political views at the awards show tomorrow- which is enough for me not to watch it. There is enough hollywood on the news shows right now, I don't need any more mixes of politics and hollywood.
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post #103 of 271
3/22/03 at 6:08pm
Top Five reasons not to watch the Grammys:

1. Flesh
2. Breasts
3. lack of clothes
4. liberalism
5. actors/actresses stating political views

You can count me out!





sorry, if I made anyone mad:goodbad:
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post #104 of 271
3/22/03 at 6:25pm
Since I don't go to movies, I never watch anyway.

I'm sick about the attack on the 101st Airborne, at their base camp, in Kuwait. Turns out, one of their own men threw 3 grenades into a tent and injured 13 soldiers. In another era, he would be taken out and summarily SHOT! He's in custody, now. Personally, I think that he should be dropped, unarmed, into the middle of the Iraqi Republican Guard.

Its bad enough, that protesters, back home are raising a ruckus now, these soldiers have to worry about one of their own being a traitor and saboteur.
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post #105 of 271
3/22/03 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by Katbe
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I'm sick about the attack on the 101st Airborne, at their base camp, in Kuwait. Turns out, one of their own men threw 3 grenades into a tent and injured 13 soldiers.
That is absolutely horrible!!!!
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post #106 of 271
3/22/03 at 7:24pm
They say the soldier being detained was recently written up for insubordination. I imagine his fellow soldiers are in shock that one of their own did this horrible thing.
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post #107 of 271
3/22/03 at 7:27pm
The Iraqis are showing footage of civilian casualties. It is entirely possible, that those people were injured by Iraqi antiaircraft shells and surface-to-air missiles, falling back to earth. They aren't hitting anything in the air and those things have to come down, somwhere, sometime.
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post #108 of 271
3/22/03 at 7:30pm
I will be exercising my freedom by not tuning in to the oscars. They have a right to express themselves and I have the right not to watch.
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post #109 of 271
3/22/03 at 7:32pm
ditto!
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post #110 of 271
3/22/03 at 7:33pm
I asked the S/O (12 years in the army and now in the reserves) and he says that the incident with the insobordinate soldier is not uncommon, especially during wartime.

He wasn't surprised at all by the story when I told him. He said it's not shocking at all. He says they have a saying

'friendly fire is a motherf$%ker'
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post #111 of 271
3/22/03 at 7:56pm
Gen. Bernard Trainor, USMC (ret.) explained about "fragging" in Vietnam. A LOT of officers and senior NCOs were killed by their own men.

This incident has to make those guys even jumpier, though. You have to be able to trust your comrades, in a combat situation.
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post #112 of 271
3/22/03 at 8:03pm
I was shocked and appalled by the story, and surprised that the S/O wasn't. I didn't realize that it was a common thing.

Cindy, funny you bring that up, he used that same example when explaining it to me!
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post #113 of 271
3/22/03 at 9:19pm
I didn't hear that story. How disturbing! I thought friendly fire was usually a mistake, I didn't realize how common it is.

As for the Oscars, I'll do what I always do. I tape it, and fast forward to the awards and musicians I want to see. I can usually get through it in less than an hour.
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post #114 of 271
3/23/03 at 6:05am
The Iraqis are claiming to have shot down a plane and have said that two people parachuted into Baghdad. They have people out on the riverbanks, setting fire to the brush, trying to smoke them out.

CENTCOM, however, says that all planes are accounted for.

One of the soldiers wounded, in that grenade attack has died. I don't know if the Uniform Code of Military Justice still includes the death penalty but this is a case that cries out for it!
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post #115 of 271
3/23/03 at 6:18am
I just heard a Royal Airforce plane was shot down by the US. Very sad.
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post #116 of 271
3/23/03 at 6:50am
Now they're reporting 10 U.S. soldiers unaccounted for in southern Iraq. Iraq claims it has POWs. I'm wondering what's going to happen when they reach Baghdad - looks like it will be very soon. So far no WMD - hopefully they won't be used to stop the invasion of Baghdad.
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post #117 of 271
3/23/03 at 6:59am
It makes me sick that these Hollywood types are going to take the Oscars and turn it into a public forum to air their political views. There is NO way that I am watching that.
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post #118 of 271
3/23/03 at 7:01am
I cannot concentrate on anything at work (we work on Sundays, as you probably know...). I keep switching back to the news websites...

I hope those missing soldiers are alright. I just pray they won't be in captive of the in Iraq. Those people are ruthless, and have no conciens. You saw what hapened to Daniel Pearl, which was sickening.

Oh, I wish it would all just end!!!

Be strong, and may your your fellow-American & British allies stay safe.
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post #119 of 271
3/23/03 at 7:12am
I think Americans should be proud of the protesters really. Not that I agree with what they're saying, but I think it's proof of the strength of the American democracy. Letting people voice their opinion, even if it's unsupportive of the war effort, is very important IMO. Yes, it costs a lot to manage the protesters (police budget etc.) but it's a small price to pay to live in a democracy. Again IMHO.

Just heard on the news that the US announced that a pilot was shot down over Baghdad
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post #120 of 271
3/23/03 at 7:14am
They just said that Iraq has 200 POW's and they are going to show them sometime today. They also said that all RAF and other aircraft are safe and accounted for and that an amphibious vehicle transporting troops just got blown up by enemy fire.
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