ok update, first kitten was born at 11.30 am black boy, before she had a chance to fully clean him up she had the second one at 11.40 am another black boy, i dont think there is anymore in there, will update again soon.
Nope all finished at 2. boy jet black and both boys, names are jester and jasper lol.
I have managed to get a picture of them and mum, i will post it a bit later not the best of pictures as i had to use the laptop webcam as my camara is broken lol.