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post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I'm so sorry about your son. Children with cancer are the saddest.
I pray all goes well with his treatment.
Thank you very much! He was diagnosed nearly 3 years ago when I first joined this list, he has been doing very well with treatment. He is such a trooper and God-willing will go off treatment in August - the month he turns 6. What a birthday present to him!!!

Thanks again for the prayers!
post #32 of 40
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Thank you very much! He was diagnosed nearly 3 years ago when I first joined this list, he has been doing very well with treatment. He is such a trooper and God-willing will go off treatment in August - the month he turns 6. What a birthday present to him!!!

Thanks again for the prayers!
I really hope your son stops treatment and is in remission as of his 6th birthday. He will be in my thoughts and prayers.
post #33 of 40
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I really hope your son stops treatment and is in remission as of his 6th birthday. He will be in my thoughts and prayers.
Thank you! That means a lot to me. We'll take all the prayers we can get. He is doing so well that sometimes it is (nearly) easy to forget he is/was sick. Aside from the daily medication and routine doctor's visits, he is just another happy-go-lucky 5-year old, with the heart of gold, matured beyond his years.





post #34 of 40
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Originally Posted by Marianjela View Post
Thank you! That means a lot to me. We'll take all the prayers we can get. He is doing so well that sometimes it is (nearly) easy to forget he is/was sick. Aside from the daily medication and routine doctor's visits, he is just another happy-go-lucky 5-year old, with the heart of gold, matured beyond his years.





Awww!! What a total sweetie!!

I will keep him and all of you in my prayers!!!
post #35 of 40
He is a beautiful boy. All your kids are gorgeous.
Cindy


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Originally Posted by Marianjela View Post
Thank you! That means a lot to me. We'll take all the prayers we can get. He is doing so well that sometimes it is (nearly) easy to forget he is/was sick. Aside from the daily medication and routine doctor's visits, he is just another happy-go-lucky 5-year old, with the heart of gold, matured beyond his years.





post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by okiron View Post
When you believe something so strongly, it has nothing to do with sanity. "Sane" people have their moments too. Maybe it's worked all their life at other things, why doubt that it wont work again? We don't know the whole story, only what the media wants us to know. Who knows what they were thinking or what exactly their beliefs are. I don't think anyone on this forum has the right to judge without knowing everything.
I didn't say anything about sanity. Of course we don't know the whole story, but we don't know the whole story about why anyone murders their child, and it's still completely obvious that it's wrong.

Letting your child die is wrong. I'm not sure where the debate is.
post #37 of 40
I think they should be charged with manslaughter, or whatever the charge would be. According to the article the child's condition was undiagnosed because they chose to pray for her rather than take her to a doctor. There's no excuse for not taking a sick child to a doctor, imo. It's not even like they had a diagnosis and chose to refuse treatment - they didn't take her to a doctor in the first place. That's neglect in my book. They are perfectly entitled to not see a doctor themselves, but I don't think they had the right to make that decision for a child.
post #38 of 40
I think they should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. They didn't mean for their child to die, but since they refused to take her to the dr, they neglected her.

I feel God gave doctors the talent to heal people. If I didn't believe that and take my medication everyday, I wouldn't even be here. I would have died with the silent killer, high blood pressure. I am able to speak because I got to the hospital in time after my stroke in 2004.

I believe in prayer, but feel that the doctor is sometimes an answer to prayer.
post #39 of 40
I've heard widespread coverage of this all week as it occurred in Wisconsin. My biggest pet peeve is if religion mattered so much, why did they seek out medical help when she stopped breathing? Why did they seek out help then and not before? Something to ponder.

Here's an update:

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/17064046.html
post #40 of 40
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Originally Posted by lookingglass View Post
I have a huge problem with this. I think once a person is over the age of 18 and can make their own medical decisions then he or she can do something like this. However, if a child is involved and treatment is available it must be sought.

If this were an adult I'd be singing a different tune.
Yep, I have the same problem with it

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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
I consider these parents to be extremely guilty of neglect of this child which led directly to her death, and feel they should be charged with negligent homicide.
I agree with you

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Originally Posted by sarahp View Post
I think the parents should be charged and sent to prison - they killed their daughter. Spiritual leaders do NOT recommend using prayer over medicine to treat health problems, and these people are whacko's if they really thought that.

How could you watch your daughter die - it sounds like she really suffered as well? This disgusts me.
I read an article that this kind of death is very painfule too

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Originally Posted by Graciecat View Post
I believe in the power of Prayer, but I also believe there comes a time when you have to allow medical intervention.
I just don't understand how you could let someone die, when what they have can be treated or cured...it makes no sense to me.

This makes me think of a conversation we had in science class when I was in 7th or 8th grade.
For some reason we were talking about heart transplants and there was a girl in my class who just out and out thought it was wrong because she felt that God made the persons heart the way it was and if it was going to stop working then it was going to stop working and that was the end of it in her opinion.
I always remember the teacher saying, "I understand that you believe it's God's will for that person to die, but on the other hand don't you think God is the one who gave the Doctors the skills to save lives?"
She said it wasn't the same thing and wouldn't talk about it any more.
The really odd part is that years later, she ended up getting a kidney transplant...I guess her thoughts on the subject changed when it was her life that hung in the balance!
I also believe in the power of prayer, and I also believe that you are supposed to do everything that you can

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Originally Posted by Lorie D. View Post
I completely agree with the teacher's comment in the previous post. How long a person lives is up to God. But he doesn't work the way he did back in biblical times, now he works through doctors and gives them the skill to save lives. If it really is God's will that someone should die the doctors are going to fail to save that person no matter what they do. I think charges should be brought against these parents.
I think that God's will will be done too, no matter what the doctors do, but then that is God's will, and I think people can accept a death better

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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
She is not old enough to make an informed decision about whether she wanted to refuse medical care on religious grounds. Her parents are free to die however they want, of whatever treatable illness, but it is plainly irresponsible to let your own child die in the name of your own opinions.

Any other time you neglect to care for a child so severely that she dies, you are immediately thrown in jail, and this should be no different.
She was a child, you do not let children die, not if you can help them

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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Excuse me?

We know the facts:

Child was gravely ill with a TREATABLE disease.

Parents decided to pray rather than bring her for treatment.

Child died as a result of not getting treatment.

What else is there to know?
I agree with you

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Originally Posted by faith's_mom View Post
I totally agree with you...

An adult can make their own decision on treatment, but it's just not fair to a child to "Not" give them all the treatment options available so that they can make it to adulthood, so they have that choice...that's just wrong...and I'm religious, and believe in the power of prayer, but I also believe in the knowledge and the power of healing that God has given to doctors and other 'healers'...
Children can not make desicions not to be treated, they are children and they depend on their parents to take care of them

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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I think Jesus would have wanted them to take that little girl to the hospital.
I think so too

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Originally Posted by urbantigers View Post
I think they should be charged with manslaughter, or whatever the charge would be. According to the article the child's condition was undiagnosed because they chose to pray for her rather than take her to a doctor. There's no excuse for not taking a sick child to a doctor, imo. It's not even like they had a diagnosis and chose to refuse treatment - they didn't take her to a doctor in the first place. That's neglect in my book. They are perfectly entitled to not see a doctor themselves, but I don't think they had the right to make that decision for a child.
They should be charged with something

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Originally Posted by Catkiki View Post
I think they should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. They didn't mean for their child to die, but since they refused to take her to the dr, they neglected her.

I feel God gave doctors the talent to heal people. If I didn't believe that and take my medication everyday, I wouldn't even be here. I would have died with the silent killer, high blood pressure. I am able to speak because I got to the hospital in time after my stroke in 2004.

I believe in prayer, but feel that the doctor is sometimes an answer to prayer.

Yep, I feel the same way as you
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