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post #31 of 50
Oops, Sophie's not a van, it's Rags that I thought was a van, but I went and looked at her picture on the preggo belly thread and she's not a van either... but she sure does have a lot of white on her!!!!
post #32 of 50
I think Rags is a high white calico, not quite a tortie because I think her colors are too distinct. One of her daughters, Belle, I've been calling a calico, but she's close to a tortie because the colors blend a bit.
post #33 of 50
Torties do not have any white on them. Think of it this way:

Calico - white cat with patches of black/red

Tortie - black/red cat with colors blended

Tortie and White - tortie with white patches (usually face, legs, belly)
post #34 of 50
Thread Starter 
Then there is the torbie with white which is what rags and my sophie are. Which is tabby with patches of red. They aren't quite calico's because they are tabby.
http://www.seregiontica.org/Colors/w.../withwhite.htm
post #35 of 50
I'll try to get a good pic of Belle from all angles and see if you guys think she is calico or tortie and white. i don't want to mess with them now though because I distrubed them enough this morning when I was in there weighing them again.
post #36 of 50
Thread Starter 
Tortie= red and black patches no white
Calico= red and black patches with white
torbie= Tabby patches of red
Torbie with white = tabby patches of red and white
post #37 of 50
Rags has gray (or blue?) striped patches and red tabby patches on white. Here are some more pics so you can get a good look. I always thought that since she is tricolor, she is a type of calico. I thought only types of calicos are tricolor.













Here's one of my other cats, Josie. I've always thought of her as a true calico. What do you think?

post #38 of 50
Thread Starter 
The second cat looks like a dilute calico if her patches are blue. If they are black she is just a normal calico. but Rags is definatly a torbie with white or brown patched tabby with white (other name for it). I could tell one of her kittens was as well.
post #39 of 50
So a tricolor isn't always a calico?

Sorry to hijack the thread!
post #40 of 50
Thread Starter 
Well ones with tabby patches are technically torbies. It's ok this has really just turned into a thread about genetics. When I got Sophie I called her a calico all the time but now I have learned she is a torbie. lol And calico is just a nickname given for a tortie with white. You can call it either name but people like to call them calicos. Did you see the link I posted?
http://www.seregiontica.org/Colors/t...rtietorbie.htm
http://www.seregiontica.org/Colors/w.../withwhite.htm
post #41 of 50
Rags does have stripes on the black patches and she definitely has torti-tude!
I also found this online:
"What is the difference between a Calico and a Tortoiseshell? And what in heck is a Torbie?
Goodness, a lot of questions there. :-)
The difference between a calico and a tortoiseshell is this:

With a calico, there is a significant amount of white, and the two colors are broken up into distinct patches. This has to do with the interaction of white spotting.

With a tortoiseshell, the three colors are blended and don't form distinct patches. A tortoiseshell may have significant portions of white as well, but the remaining colors are blended (this particular pattern is called a tortoiseshell and white).

A torbie, or patched tabby, is a tortoiseshell where the tabby pattern is very distinct all over the cat. A calico or tortoiseshell may have distinct tabby pattern on the red or cream patches (has to do with another gene we won't get into at this juncture), but no patterning on the other color. This isn't a torbie. A torbie is clearly patterned all over the cat -- though never on the white."

I found this at
http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache...&gl=us&strip=1
post #42 of 50
Thread Starter 
I still think of ones with stripes as torbies. They can have stripes in the orange and still be calicos but if they have stripes in the black then they are torbies. Torties to me have no white. Calico's have white. I consider Sophie's daughter Punky a torbie and white because she has tabby stripes in her black patches. I guess I could be wrong though.
post #43 of 50
Rags is a brown patched tabby calico. But the idea is the same - she's a calico with patches of color

I prefer the term patched tabby rather then "torBie" as its too close to "torTie" And the color description is more accurate IMO - its a tabby cat (brown, blue, silver) with patches of red.

Torties will be a solid color of black or blue (sometimes chocolate) with the red/cream patching/blending
post #44 of 50
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Originally Posted by Lindsey88 View Post
Then there is the torbie with white which is what rags and my sophie are. Which is tabby with patches of red. They aren't quite calico's because they are tabby.
http://www.seregiontica.org/Colors/w.../withwhite.htm
and then there're the ones like my Firefox - tabby all over, w/brindling & patches of red & black. i call her a torbie - looks kinda like watered silk...
one of the ferals is more what i think of as a 'patched tabby' since her patches or color are more distinct, not as blended as Firefox's.
post #45 of 50
Thread Starter 
Sophie is also a brown patched tabby and white / torbie most of her orange patches are on her back and she has black patches on her back as well
post #46 of 50
Everyone is so right, the difference between a calico and a tortie is that calicos have distinct patches of color as opposed to the torties whose red and black (or cream and blue) intermingle.

Calicos tend to have more white, whereas the torties limit their white to their extremities and belly/locket. The theory goes that the white spotting gene is what causes the calico effect.

I love this thread! I really adore all these pictures!
post #47 of 50
post #48 of 50
Sophie is a wonderful example of a brown patched tabby and white

Foxfire is a brown patched tabby, but probably carries the dilute colors as her colors are paler brown. Brown comes in lots of shades - from light brown to a black-brown
post #49 of 50
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post

Foxfire is a brown patched tabby, but probably carries the dilute colors as her colors are paler brown. Brown comes in lots of shades - from light brown to a black-brown
she also has a teeny bit of white, just around her mouth & chin - like she's dipped her muzzle in cream her hair roots are also very light, either cream or white.
post #50 of 50
she is very beautiful!
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