Should I put her down?? PLEASE HELP!

Two Bobber threads merged.

I just called the vet, it is 10 am. The lady was so enthusiastic on the phone! She said Bobber is doing the same as when I left her yesterday, which when I left her she was acting like her old self a lot more then yesterday morning. well she ate a little bit of food by herself! she also drank some water. she is still having problems controlling her bowels, but she got into her litter box by herself too! at first she was too wobblely so they took it out, but they put it back in later and she got up and got in it! she is also sitting up by herself too! they are going to give her her fluids for the day through the IV and I asked if they would check her blood levels, though it is up to the vet if we do that (I also dont want her poked and proded if it is unneeded). my dad said cats sometimes do get a bit of energy before they pass, so im just hoping that isnt what this is. i get to go in and see her after her IV. I asked the lady I was talkin to on the phone and i said "that is good right?" and she said "oh yes it is very good".

I'm so happy to hear that Bobber is improving.
I know nothing about those numbers and I can't remember who it is that's a nurse but if someone who reads those kinds of things for a living says they're good numbers then I don't understand what in the world would make the Vet say she's in liver and kidney failure.

I agree with the person that said to get her out of there as soon as she can be moved to your regular Vet.

Sending and Prayers for you and for Bobber

I really don't want to move her. She is pretty frail still and they are doing the IV and antibiotics. My regular vet said she is sure that she is getting adequate care at the vet she is at. I would really like to move her, but at this point I would prefer she doesn't have to go through more then what she is now. I am really hoping they let me bring her home soon!!!! Thank you all that has helped and prayed for her! I really appreciate it! She isn't out of the woods and it would be grand if the prayers and thoughts would continue! I will update again after I see her!

Glad to hear she's doing better. It's a very difficult situation.

It doesn't sound like your vet is doing a bad job. I think there's an understandable tendency among pet owners to blame the vet for giving news that's painful to hear. From the vets' perspective, they've seen a lot of animals go through this and naturally want to save them from suffering needlessly.

I agree I wanted to blame the vet for not doing what I wanted them to do, though they are the trained professional. I blamed myself I blamed the person that came to take care of them while I was gone, and I realized I can't do anything about it, I can't blame someone. I am the most to blame, but I did what I thought was right before and after she was in the vet.

I have talked to 2 different vets *my regular and the one Bobber is at* and they both say she isnt in pain. When I went back at 3 yesterday, we were suppose to talk about putting her down then, sorta make the final decision, but the vet had already left before I got there. She also had the plans laid out on what care she needed that night. I don't think she wanted to put her down by the end of the day since she had improved.

I have said this many times, and I really hope to those people who feel I am doing the wrong thing to forgive me, I honestly feel this is the right thing for now, to see what she does. I KNOW my cats, they are my life, im the 23 yr old cat lady..... everyone says it. I honestly feel she did not want me to put her down and she was still fighting. I think it is one of those things where you had to be there. Yes I do admit that ALL of me wants her to live so I will look at things differently then a person uninvolved will look at it, but I was there, all I can say is in my heart and head I feel she wants to fight. It is her nature and since there isn't pain, I KNOW it is the right thing for now.

I don't blame you for not wanting to put her through a move right now.
Since your regular Vet feels she's getting good care then I don't blame you for just letting her where she is.

If you feel that Bobber has fight left in her, and they've said she's not in pain then you should do what you feel is right.

With our Lizzie, I knew even before the Vet told me, that it was the end.
I knew she had no fight left, when I looked in her eyes they looked blank...like dolls eyes, Lizzie wasn't there any more.

If Bobber wants to fight and it sounds like she does then I'm sending lots of Prayers her way that she pulls through and you can have her home with you very soon.

Get well soon, Bobber.
Mommy is worried about you

Her blood levels taken today at 1:12 P.M. She was really tired, but they gave her supplements. She started getting a little antsy, i thought she had to go to the bathroom, she didn't go though, but they deicided put her in her cage so she couldn't mess up the cathader for her IV. She just wanted to sleep and she gave me a few kisses. She also wanted her belly rubbed.

Type Her Numbers reference numbers
ALB 2.0 2.2 - 2.4
ALP 19 10-90
ALT 101 20-100
AMY 498 300-1100
TBIL .6 .1-.6
BUN 16 0-30
CA++ 6.4 8-11.8
PHOS 4.0 3.4-8.5
CRE .7 .3-2.1
GLU 44 70-150
NA+ 143 142-164
K+ 2.7 3.7-5.8
TP 6.0 5.4-8.2
GLOB 4.0 1.5-5.7

HEM 1+, LIP 0, ICT 0

Yesterdays HEM 0, LIP 1+, ICT 0

I saw a diff girl today, talked to her personally, still at the same vet place though just reg. vet had already left. She said that she can see why her numbers are off from what she went through yesterday and it just took a little longer to get into her bloodstream and since she doesnt have any ICT that is really good.

Her blood levels taken today at 1:12 P.M. She was really tired, but they gave her supplements. She started getting a little antsy, i thought she had to go to the bathroom, she didn't go though, but they deicided put her in her cage so she couldn't mess up the cathader for her IV. She just wanted to sleep and she gave me a few kisses. She also wanted her belly rubbed.

Type Her Numbers reference numbers
ALB 2.0 2.2 - 2.4
ALP 19 10-90
ALT 101 20-100
AMY 498 300-1100
TBIL .6 .1-.6
BUN 16 0-30
CA++ 6.4 8-11.8
PHOS 4.0 3.4-8.5
CRE .7 .3-2.1
GLU 44 70-150
NA+ 143 142-164
K+ 2.7 3.7-5.8
TP 6.0 5.4-8.2
GLOB 4.0 1.5-5.7

HEM 1+, LIP 0, ICT 0

Yesterdays HEM 0, LIP 1+, ICT 0

I saw a diff girl today, talked to her personally, still at the same vet place though just reg. vet had already left. She said that she can see why her numbers are off from what she went through yesterday and it just took a little for the stuff to get into her bloodstream and since she doesnt have any ICT that is really good. They said they got 450 ccs in her yesterday but today she knocked out the tube that goes to the needle and they only got 50 ccs in her today but put her on a new antibiotic

It looks to me like she's staying pretty stable.
Her ALT is up a bit, but it could be because she isn't eating much. You should talk to your vet about trying to syringe feed her to increase her food intake, and possibly normalize her blood glucose level. Her glucose came up a smidge, that's good. Her potassium is still critically low. You should tell your vet that you want her to have potassium supplementation. No arguments....tell them to do it. With a potassium that low, she will have muscle weakness, and can start to have heart problems, such as arrhythmia (irregular heart beats.) That is not something that you want to have happen. With that low of a potassium level, she will probably feel pretty crappy too. The Calcium has dropped a little, but that could be from the IV fluids.

All in all, the new blood work doesn't show anything that alarms me. I would try to push for her to get potassium supplements and also push to see if someone will try to syringe feed her. She certainly doesn't look like she's anywhere near needing to be PTS.

Do you know if they did a CBC? I'm curious why they've got her on antibiotics. What was her white count (WBC)? I'd also be interested in seeing what her HCT and Hgb levels are.

Good luck. Sweet Bobber continues to be in my prayers. I think you're doing a good job. Keep up the good work!

She did get supplements before I left. I think they are really hoping that she eats on her own, since there has been twice that she has ate a little on her own. They tried to get me to feed her, but she just wanted to sleep and i didnt want to push it. I was going to try later, but then she got restless and they put her in the cage for the nite.

They put her on antibiotics bc her foot was punctured and got infected (think that is how this all started). I rushed her in on Friday to the only vet that could see her. They cleaned out the infection and put her on antibiotics on Friday. Saturday is when she was really off and I had her seen Saturday night. As of now they have her foot wrapped up but so it can drain and she can't mess with it.

Originally Posted by kittiekitten

She did get supplements before I left. I think they are really hoping that she eats on her own, since there has been twice that she has ate a little on her own. They tried to get me to feed her, but she just wanted to sleep and i didnt want to push it. I was going to try later, but then she got restless and they put her in the cage for the nite.

They put her on antibiotics bc her foot was punctured and got infected (think that is how this all started). I rushed her in on Friday to the only vet that could see her. They cleaned out the infection and put her on antibiotics on Friday. Saturday is when she was really off and I had her seen Saturday night. As of now they have her foot wrapped up but so it can drain and she can't mess with it.

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Sorry, I must have missed the part about the foot infection. I'm glad that she's getting the supplements. That's very important. The antibiotics could very well be why she isn't interested in eating on her own. I know when my girls are on antibiotics, it really makes them nauseous, and they slow way down on eating. If she doesn't start to eat on her own soon, you really will need to address that issue. The last thing you need is for her to develop hepatic lipidosis from not eating. See if your vet carries Hills a/d canned food. When my Angel kitty, Spooky, went into hepatic lipidosis, I syringe fed Hills a/d to her...she absolutely loved it! It's very high calorie, and probably would do wonders for Bobber.

Good luck! Continued prayers being sent your way!

i wanted to say something today about feeding her, but they gave me a tounge suppressent and some canned cat food. i really wanted to try and feed her but i couldn't push it and i really thought id do it later but they wanted to put her in her cage. i will ask them about it tomorrow. i really think they are hoping that she starts doing it on her own so she can come home. i overheard them today say that if her levels got better they were going to let me take her home. they were able to bring her out today not in her box just herself! that made me happy and she did walk a few steps, wanted to walk more but i wouldnt let her bc she isnt suppose to move a lot. thank you for all your support everyone!!!

That's wonderful news. It sounds like things are looking up. See if they have the Hills a/d the next time you're there. Apparently, most cats find it rather irresistable, and will eat it quite readily. Continued prayers for you and Bobber!

I wouldn't worry too much about bothering her with force feeding. I have a cat that hates to be poked and proded. It used to be a huge pain to get even a small pill into her. We've been force feeding her with popsicle sticks for about a week. She has gotten used to it and doesn't really spit it out anymore. She seems to like that she's getting food into her, but for some reason, won't eat it on her own (usually no more than a tablespoon at a time, but she's a little girl). She lets us know when she's had enough. The benefits of knowing she is getting some food in her is well worth it! I even think she's figured out that the food is getting in her whether she wants it or not....because she's started licking it a bit.

I realize every cat has their own personality, but I think getting some high calorie food in her will be worth the hassle. Get a buddy to help you out if you can't do it on your own! (I needed this at first, but now I can easily feed her on my own).

Great news!!! i will keep her and you in my prayers. for you and Bobber!

I hope she keeps getting better.

I took in one of my other cats to get his hair cut. It has been scheduled for almost a week. It is of course at my regular vet. I showed her the printouts I have of Bobbers blood work and my vet said she wasn't sure how the vet Bobbers is at got liver and kidney failure from the numbers, as said in other previous posts too. Granted she isn't out of the woods and she has to continue to fight off this infection. I think the vet Bobbers is at thought liver and kidney failure from the way she was acting (she was in really bad condition Monday morning) and probably a comparison of numbers from the previous night and Monday morning. Keep those prayers and vibes a coming! We appreciate them SOOOOOO much! Thanks so much and as soon as I see her or talk to the vet I will update!

I went and saw Bobber. She was tryin to get off me and hide in the corner and I wouldn't let her sit there, I picked her up right away. Well she wanted down so bad so I let her go and she ended up peeing on the floor. That means she is having some type of control over her bladder I guess.

They fed her with a tube this morning, which was great. She kept the food down!!! They took her IV out and gave her fluids under the skin and gave her supplements. She did drink a little bit on her own overnight. They are going to feed her with the tube again tonight.

They are going to take her blood tomorrow to check the levels. If her levels are better and she perks up a little bit more she gets to come home!!! I am so excited. I really really hope she keeps improving!!! Thank you so much for all of your help!!! I will do another update tomorrow after I see her and hopefully bring her home.

Wonderful news! I feel vindicated that your other vet agrees with me about the misdiagnosis of renal and liver failure! I sincerely hope Bobber continues to get better, and is able to come home with you soon.

~~Hugs & Prayers~~