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My cat will only eat wet food and Fancy Feast only!

post #1 of 26
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I have a 1 year old female cat, white persian.

When we bought her as a kitten the owner said she would not eat dry food only wet canned food. We tried to feed her dry iams but she wouldn't eat. So we gave her canned fancy feast and she would eat it.

After a month we found some new fancy feast delicates. She loved them.

Now she is pregnant and going to deliver in 1 month.

My dad ordered some really good natural balance canned wet food but she didn't like. We even mixxed it with the fancy feast and she wouldn't eat it.

What should we do?
post #2 of 26
Many believe canned food is actual better then dry. Cats need the moisture to stay healthy and avoid things like crystal and urine blockages. Keep feeding her the fancy feast and every once in awhile buy a can of some other higher quality food and try it until you find one she'll eat. You could try Nutro Max Cat canned, which you can find in any pet store. But maybe just mostly stick to the fancy feast for now since she's pregnant. Have you started a breeding program for Persians? If not, then I would have her spayed after her babies are weened. She'll be healthier and happier.
post #3 of 26
My vet tells me that canned food is better for a cat than dry.

Unfortunately my youngest, Abby (9 years old), doesn't like wet food. Lately she will eat a wee little bit of Fancy Feast Grilled Salmon, but it's like only a couple teaspoons. So I can't seem to get her off of the dry food
post #4 of 26
Keep trying. FF is ok as a treat, but not as a regualar meal. I use Max Cat and Natural Balance and a few Iams canned.
post #5 of 26
You might also want to try Merrick's wet. That's the only brand my 2 will eat. They don't like any pate style food.
post #6 of 26
Keep her on the Fancy Feast if that what she likes to eat. Although it's got some flaws as all commercial cat foods do, you're getting the advantage that many of these flavors are low in carbs which can prevent diabetis and your cat is getting the necessary moisture to prevent UTI's. Be glad you're cat doesn't like dry food. Dry food is not that good for cats. It's more of a convenience for the owner. Be sure to read this article.

www.catinfo.org

You should occasionally try some higher quality brands of canned just to see if she'll eat them and as you find brands she will eat buy more of them. Whatever you do, stay away from canned food from Wallmart if you can. I bought some Iams cans from Wallmart and my cats threw up from eating the food. I heard they tend to let their products get exposed to heat. I was tyring to figure out if it's Iams company or Wallmart. Don't know for sure but I suspect Wallmart since after the recall Iams doesn't want to lose business.

If your cats really don't eat anything but Fancy Feast it's not the end of the world. I would rather have my cats on an all FF diet then an all dry diet. Fortunately my cats do eat some of the better brands like Avoderm and Natural Balance but I also rotate in some FF occasionally because Natural Balance is high in carbs and I want to balance things out. So you see, no commercial cat food is perfect.
post #7 of 26


Moggie
Where did you find NB high in carbs>>>
post #8 of 26
I agree with everything that moggiegirl said.

FF is far from the best canned food on the market, but all you can do is periodically try serving something better, to see what her reaction is. Who knows, you might be able to at least mix some higher-quality food with the FF. I know the Natural Balance attempt failed, but there are so many other brands out there to try.

Is it really worth getting into a battle of wills over food? Especially since cats have been known to starve themselves if there's no "acceptable" food available.

The only negative about your present situation is that ideally your cat should be eating kitten food both while she's pregnant and after she delivers. FF does not make kitten-specific food. If you were going to start the mixing experiment like I mentioned, using kitten food would be a wise idea.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by moggiegirl View Post
Keep her on the Fancy Feast if that what she likes to eat. Although it's got some flaws as all commercial cat foods do, you're getting the advantage that many of these flavors are low in carbs which can prevent diabetis and your cat is getting the necessary moisture to prevent UTI's. Be glad you're cat doesn't like dry food. Dry food is not that good for cats. It's more of a convenience for the owner. Be sure to read this article.

www.catinfo.org

You should occasionally try some higher quality brands of canned just to see if she'll eat them and as you find brands she will eat buy more of them. Whatever you do, stay away from canned food from Wallmart if you can. I bought some Iams cans from Wallmart and my cats threw up from eating the food. I heard they tend to let their products get exposed to heat. I was tyring to figure out if it's Iams company or Wallmart. Don't know for sure but I suspect Wallmart since after the recall Iams doesn't want to lose business.

If your cats really don't eat anything but Fancy Feast it's not the end of the world. I would rather have my cats on an all FF diet then an all dry diet. Fortunately my cats do eat some of the better brands like Avoderm and Natural Balance but I also rotate in some FF occasionally because Natural Balance is high in carbs and I want to balance things out. So you see, no commercial cat food is perfect.
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Originally Posted by RobertM View Post
I agree with everything that moggiegirl said.

FF is far from the best canned food on the market, but all you can do is periodically try serving something better, to see what her reaction is. Who knows, you might be able to at least mix some higher-quality food with the FF. I know the Natural Balance attempt failed, but there are so many other brands out there to try.

Is it really worth getting into a battle of wills over food? Especially since cats have been known to starve themselves if there's no "acceptable" food available.

The only negative about your present situation is that ideally your cat should be eating kitten food both while she's pregnant and after she delivers. FF does not make kitten-specific food. If you were going to start the mixing experiment like I mentioned, using kitten food would be a wise idea.
The only thing I'd like to add there is that if your cat will ONLY eat FF, then feed at least a decent quality dry to supplement because FF on it's own is not a very well-balanced diet for your cat.
post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
My male cat eats EVO dry cat and kitten food and she will eat some of his from time to time.
post #11 of 26
i have the same prob. my older kitty will only eat friskies pouches and only certain flavors. she absolutely refuses to eat the exact same thing in the cans. ive tried numerous times to switch her and the last time i did, i gave them iams wet and they both only took a couple of bites and got sick. (this was jan of last yr so i guess i lucked out.) chloe isnt nearly as picky but patchy is so skinny that im afraid to take my chances (shes 13lbs but she looks skinny)
now both of them have gotten to where theyll only eat friskies dry food also.
post #12 of 26
SOME of the Fancy Feast varieties are fine...some are NOT.

I would urge you NOT to feed those which have (what looks like) gravy.

The "gravy" is made with wheat, and grains are BAD for cats.

Here is a list of some Fancy Feast varieties without "gravy"
http://www.felinediabetes.com/glutenfree.htm

You mentioned that she sometimes eats a little of the other cat's EVO...I believe that' a good grain-free high protein dry - someone will correct me if I'm wrong - I would encourage her to continue!
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post


Moggie
Where did you find NB high in carbs>>>

You can calculate it, here are some examples:

Avoderm Chicken Formula
10.00% protein
7.00% fat
1.50% crude fiber
78.00% moisture
1.90% ash

Canned food has 22% dry matter. Divide each by .22 on your calculator

45% protein
31.8% fat
6.8% fiber

Now to get carbs add up all the protein, fat, fiber, moisture and ash and subtract from 100. That would be 100 minus 98.4 equals 1.6. But we must convert 1.6 to dry matter. 1.6 divided by .22 equals about 7% carbohydrate in Avoderm canned cat food.

Compare this to Natural Balance Chicken and Liver formula and this is the one without the brown rice and cranberries.
9.0% protein
6.0% fat
1.5% fiber
78% moisture
Ash content not listed on label

40.9% protein
27% fat
6.8% fiber
25% carbohydrates

Want Ultra formula? Moisture is 78%

Crude Protein 9.0%=40.9% protein
Crude Fat 5.0%=22.7% fat
Crude fiber 1.0%=4.5% fiber
31.9% carbohydrates.

I added the protein, fat and fiber and subtracted from 100% I learned this from Dr Elizabeth Hodgkin's book. She specializes in treating feline diabetis and she uses this formula. Can labels are very misleading with their water content and you don't see it on a dry matter basis.
post #14 of 26
thank you ... I will have to look it up but most foods off the tables are about 10% carbs when figuring dry matter

http://www.geocities.com/jmpeerson/canfood.html
post #15 of 26
I try to feed my cats the higher end canned foods, and some just don't care for it, so it can end up being a huge waste of money.

The two issues that I see with widely available canned foods is that they pump up the protein percentage by using corn meal gluten or wheat gluten rather than with actual meat.

Some of the Fancy Feasts have actual meat at the top of their ingredient list, but almost all have wheat gluten as a protein enhancer. Aside from the now obvious issue about point of origin for wheat gluten, the other issue would be that wheat is a common allergen for kitties.

The other problem people have is with the unidentified "meat by-products" and it feels creepy not to know where it comes from. Purina, who makes Fancy Feast is in the business of keeping kitties healthy and not a single one of their products were recalled last year.

Several of the high end, but smallish companies had their products recalled because they have to depend on companies like Menu foods to round out their manufacture. Purina, at least, seems self-contained and try to make kitties happy for relatively low prices. Although Fancy Feast per can is now quite expensive. And Pro Plan canned now exceeds the price of Wellness canned.

I too try not to feed the kitties the Fancy Feast but they uniformely love it and the high end stuff is hit or miss, miss, miss.
post #16 of 26
If you're worried about junky wet food, try feeding your cat straight up salmon or tuna. Cats (usually) love it, and it's good for them!
post #17 of 26
my cats are picky and will only eat pouch food. the only canned they will eat is merrick and that is their favorite of everything i feed them. they get a nutro pouches, meow mix pouches, and wellness pouches. when i go to the pet store i just grab one can/pouch of something to see if they like it so i don't waste money. if they like it, i go back and get more. i really don't want them to get too picky about flavors and such so they get a huge variety of flavors. i had a cat once that would only canned food that had tuna in it. my damian was pretty picky, but when i brought all the kittens home and he saw what they were getting he now eats more. he loves the meow mix pouches in all flavors. i also know people who think that fancy feast is a quality diet, i don't know why, maybe because of the price of it.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by angryrectangle View Post
If you're worried about junky wet food, try feeding your cat straight up salmon or tuna. Cats (usually) love it, and it's good for them!
that's fine for an occasional treat, but not as a steady diet.
Cats can develop yellow fat disease from having too much tuna.
also it can lead to a build-up of mercury.
problems with a diet high in fish.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
that's fine for an occasional treat, but not as a steady diet.
Cats can develop yellow fat disease from having too much tuna.
also it can lead to a build-up of mercury.
problems with a diet high in fish.
Yeah, I've heard there can be problems with feeding your cats tuna, but I would think a salmon diet would be just fine.
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by angryrectangle View Post
Yeah, I've heard there can be problems with feeding your cats tuna, but I would think a salmon diet would be just fine.
NO salmon does the same thing"_
post #21 of 26
I feed my cats FF and Wellness canned. I personally feel that FF is a good food for my kitties because they'll eat it and I don't have enough time in the day to worry if my cats are eating. I occasionally try different brands but they seem to turn their little noses up. I was wondering what kind of schedule do you gals or guys feed your cats on an all wet diet. I'm still trying to figure that out. I have one cat that likes to graze and I don't like leaving wet food out too long. I've been feeding 3x per day of 3oz cans, but I have one cat that won't eat if its been sitting out. I'm also sometime not home to feed in the afternoon and come home to an angry trio. They have dry food to eat whenever they want also.
post #22 of 26
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this topic.
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by angryrectangle View Post
If you're worried about junky wet food, try feeding your cat straight up salmon or tuna. Cats (usually) love it, and it's good for them!
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Yeah, I've heard there can be problems with feeding your cats tuna, but I would think a salmon diet would be just fine.
SORRY........Why Fish is Dangerous for Cats
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by jkalex05 View Post
My male cat eats EVO dry cat and kitten food and she will eat some of his from time to time.
Evo is the only other food my Jordan will eat right now. Usually he is all about the F.F. melodies. Specifically the florintine flavors. He's had some health issues so the vet says if that is all he will eat, keep feeding it to him. Lately he has been eatin the EVO at night for dinner & his FF for breakfast. That way I feel like at least I'm getting him to eat one good meal a day.
post #25 of 26
both my cats love fancy feast..and of course the *grilled* kind...
sometimes I can get them to eat the pate stuff..but only certain ones...they like the turkey and giblets one...
found out they love that "chef's" one of friskies pate...I bought a couple cans of max cat..and they do eat the chicken and rice one...
but only in between the fancy feast..they do have dry food out during the day too...
post #26 of 26
First, why isn't she spayed? I'm more worried about the fact that she's pregnant than the fact that she only eats Fancy Feast. It's not healthy for her to be pregnant and to keep going in to heat. It's going to be awfully expensive to spay and neuter every kitten she produces (not doing so is incredibly irresponsible), not to mention finding good homes for them.

I looked at the pictures of your kitties and they are beautiful. I'm concerned because it doesn't sound like you have an actual breeding program or a mentor or even if they are registered with papers. Did you have them genetically tested before breeding? Do you have the breeding rights for them from the original cattery you bought them from (assuming that's where you bought them).

Info on backyard breeding:

This is for dogs but applies to cats as well:
http://www.jlhweb.net/Boxermap/reputablebreeder.html

http://home.comcast.net/~NoPuppyMill..._breeder_.html

Some general reading on the importance of spaying/neutering:

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/my...neutering.html

http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/wh..._your_pet.html

http://www.spayusa.org/

A simple google search will lead you to many reasons why she needs to be spayed, but I realize that you are seeking food advice.

So as far as the food is concerned:
- She needs to be on kitten food while pregnant, not regular adult food. Fancy Feast is all-life-stages but I would try to find a kitten wet food, like Nutro Max Kitten. It's the same price as Fancy Feast but better ingredients and cats seem to like it a lot. It might just be that you have to try a lot of brands to find the right one. Or sprinkle parmesan cheese or catnip on the new wet food. My kitten doesn't seem to like wet food so I sometimes sprinkle the dust from freeze-dried chicken (like Halo's Live-a-Littles, they have them at my PetCo) on to the wet food. I know you said you tried mixing. Maybe try mixing human tuna with the new wet food? Also maybe heating it up a bit would help.

- As a general rule, I think that wet food is better than dry food. It's not really a bad thing that she only eats wet food. I would just try to wean her off of the Fancy Feast (a.k.a. Kitty Crack). There are so many higher quality food options out there. Does she like the flavors with gravy? Pate loaf style? Chunks? You might have good luck with the pouches instead of cans.

I'm not sure what types of pet food stores you have where you live, but at PetSmart I would check out Nutro Natural cans and pouches, Nutro Max cans and pouches, Authority cans, Avoderm cans, By Nature Organics cans & pouches, Blue Buffalo Spa cans. I would also consider trying Meow Mix. It's not really the same as the other brands I mentioned, but it's a little better than Fancy Feast and she might like it. Meow Mix makes pouches and cups.

PetCo carries most of those brands I listed, and also Natural Balance (which you tried).

If you have a small independent pet food store by you, look for brands like Wellness, Evo, Innova, Chicken Soup, etc. I have a feeling you might have less luck with these than you would the the easier-to-find foods I just listed. That's just based on my own experience with my own picky cats. These particular foods are very good but also very rich.

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Originally Posted by angryrectangle View Post
Yeah, I've heard there can be problems with feeding your cats tuna, but I would think a salmon diet would be just fine.
It's not even just about the mercury or the fact that a high-fish diet can lead to urinary issues. It's that the cat is not eating a well-balanced diet and will not be getting important nutrients that are added to cat food. It'd kind of be like eating only oranges for your whole life. I feed my cats human-tuna as a treat maybe once a month, if that. I give them little pieces of plain chicken sometimes but always as a treat.
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