The Beijing Death Camps

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Here is my useless response from Coke. I will NOT be buying any more of their products.

Thank you for contacting The Coca-Cola Company. We appreciate your comments.

We at The Coca-Cola Company are very sensitive to your concerns about the safety and well being of animals.

However, as a sponsor of the Olympic Games, we have no influence or control over the actions of any government. With that in mind, we recommend sharing your concerns directly with the relevant Chinese government authorities.

Jeffrey
Industry and Consumer Affairs
The Coca-Cola Company
 

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Originally Posted by AlleyGirl

Here is my useless response from Coke. I will NOT be buying any more of their products.
The buck has been passed.
I will not by anything from Coke either.
 

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Originally Posted by glitch

Im telling them my opinion also!! Throwing cats in boiling water, I dont EVER want to see that again!! Too much for me! My heart cant handle it! Those pukes should be made to go through the same agony as they are putting the pets in! Lets hope rodents take over, cause the plague to them and we can get a fresh start over there! Screw the olympics! I dont care about them! I wont even use a product that is sponcering them at this point Im so angry! Ive taken my whole family down in my anger as well! I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND!! Why??

Sorry if any of that was harsh.. but ya know....
I totally understand your anger, Glitch. You are an animal lover like me and sickening abuse like this makes me want to retaliate!

The real evil here is the Chinese government, and NOT the Chinese people. My sister has been living in Shanghai for 2 years for work. She is single, but has 2 cats and a dog. She has had the opportunity to educate many people there about how pets are treated in the US (and how they SHOULD be treated in China). She says that many of her neighbors and work friends have come to really love her cats and her dog in a way that they've never experienced (most have never had a pet since they can barely feed their families, let alone a pet).

I think education is the key here, but the gov't is a major stumbling block since they can censor anything. I have sent several of these links to my sister and she is circulating them to everyone she knows in China. She said that some of the Chinese are reluctant to pass on the emails but most are willing and do not want the world to see them as inhumane animal abusers.

I would encourage everyone to send these horrible stories to everyone you know, especially if you know people in China. The internet is a powerful tool and the Chinese gov't needs to know that not only are we aware of these horrors, but we'll spread the word to EVERYONE and boycott their products, which could have a horrible impact on their reputation and economy. Change is never faster than when it effects the pocketbook.
 

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After doing some research about the sponsoring companies, I came to realize the there is billions of dollars at stake.
They want control of the huge Chinese market for many generations to come.

A few thousand cats or people for that matter, mean nothing to them.

Follow the money.
 

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Originally Posted by xocats

After doing some research about the sponsoring companies, I came to realize the there is billions of dollars at stake.
They want control of the huge Chinese market for many generations to come.

A few thousand cats or people for that matter, mean nothing to them.

Follow the money.
True, but if we Americans stop buying the Chinese products, then the Chinese won't be able to afford to buy much of anything

Does anyone know of the responses by the athletes????
 

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A reply from Johnson &Johnson
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Dear Mrs. McKinley:

Thank you for your recent email.

We always value the views and opinions of our consumers, so comments like yours are always welcome and appreciated. We will make certain your feedback is shared with the appropriate management of our company. Please do feel free to contact us again with any other comments or suggestions you may have.

Again, thank you for your interest in Johnson & Johnson.
 

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Originally Posted by catsknowme

True, but if we Americans stop buying the Chinese products, then the Chinese won't be able to afford to buy much of anything

Does anyone know of the responses by the athletes????
And if we buy american/british/etc. then those people will be able to buy more
 

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Originally Posted by Rosiemac

A reply from Johnson &Johnson
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Dear Mrs. McKinley:

Thank you for your recent email.

We always value the views and opinions of our consumers, so comments like yours are always welcome and appreciated. We will make certain your feedback is shared with the appropriate management of our company. Please do feel free to contact us again with any other comments or suggestions you may have.

Again, thank you for your interest in Johnson & Johnson.
I fear your letter went into "file 13" Susan.


Originally Posted by AlleyGirl

And if we buy American/British/etc. then those people will be able to buy more
I am feeling disillusioned and bitter...
The multi-national companies have no country...
money is their (goal) god.
With them, the buck stops nowhere.


This is so complicated...
what is an American or British product?

Sorry for being so negative this morning.
 

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Originally Posted by xocats

This is so complicated...
what is an American or British product?
That is a difficult question. Is an American car, a GM car built in Canada with Mexican parts or a Toyota built in Texas or Indiana?

I heard a commentary on the Tibet issue and they were saying that no corporate sponsors were planning to do anything. Everyone is towing the line - the Olympics are sport, not politics.
 

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No matter what "they" say...
in the case of the Olympics....
sport and politics cannot be separated.

I have been thinking a lot about how the Chinese people could let this happen to the cats in Beijing. It is very complicated.

I am just finishing a book titled "Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China" By Jung Chang that Tricia had mentioned in another thread.
http://books.google.com/books?id=eZ0...il#PPA8-IA2,M1

I highly recommend this book.
It will not solve the problem of the cats in Beijing but it does shed some light on how a people could become so detached from the pain and suffering of other people and animals.

I switch from anger at the Chinese regime and it's subjects, to the multi-national companies (American, British and others) who don't care at all about human or animal rights.
 

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This is so upsetting. A few weeks ago they were killing the dogs in the streets by beating them to death with poles. Their record of animal (and human for that matter!) rights is horrendous. Many people there eat dogs and cats, and I have seen videos of them sawing their heads off while they were still alive and screaming. It was haunting. Lying to the people telling them cats cause SARS is a disgrace. Can't someone do something?

Incidently, it's not just China. During the last Olympics, Greece was poisoning street dogs and them picking up their bodies with street sweepers. There are even stories out of London doing bad things to strays. I don't want the Olympics-anywhere - at the expense of the murders of innocent animals!
 

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Originally Posted by valanhb

Those poor cats!

When my husband saw me reading the article, he said, "You're reading that too? It made me so depressed last night. But it's the Chinese, so we shouldn't be surprised.
savages."

What I don't understand is that the whole freakin' world knows how horrid conditions are - for humans and animals - in China. WHY was China chosen for the Olympics???
You sounded as if killing cats is an activity unique to the Chinese. Millions of cats and dogs are rounded up from the streets of America and sent to die. It is funny how the media is blatantly biased against China, disregarding all decency and professionalism. When referring to China, they call these places "death camps", and in the US, they are called shelters. The former is reminiscent of Nazi's concentration camps, while the latter invokes the warm, fuzzy feeling that we are helping the poor kitties.

Also keep in mind that while the cat in your household is a lovely pet, these being rounded up and killed are a nuisance and pests. The Chinese authority is not grabbing cats out of the arms of their owners and killing them.
 

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Originally Posted by yiplong

these being rounded up and killed are a nuisance and pests.
So basically what your saying is that the feral cats that so many people here on the site look after are a nuisance and a pest?.
Originally Posted by yiplong

The Chinese authority is not grabbing cats out of the arms of their owners and killing them.
It's certainly not humane in the way their capturing them!. I had to remove a video in this thread because it was too upsetting. I had to see the animals being thrown from the top of a truck in those cages, not to mention how they were kicking the cages and prodding the animals with rods!.

Now tell me that's not an act of cruelty?!
 
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