Hey folks,
After taking Toby to the vet on Wednesday w/ the infamous "peeing outside the box" symptom, she did a urinalysis and it came back with crystals and bacteria... She said it could be due to either the bacteria or the diet he's on (NB duck/pea). She sent us home with antibiotics to treat the bacteria in hopes that would clear up the crystals.
I've got my fingers crossed that will solve the problem, but just in case it is the diet, I have some questions for you food gurus or those with experience with crystals and allergies...
1. Is NB greenpea/duck dry or the NB cans especially bad in terms of promoting crystal growth?
I'll post the nutrition info below
NB duck/pea dry:
Peas, Duck Meal, Duck, Canola Oil, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Methionine, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols, Zinc Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamim B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic acide (Vitamin B).
Guaranteed Analysis %:
Crude Protein, Min. 30
Crude Fat, Min. 12
Moisture, Max. 10
Crude Fiber, Max. 4
Omega 6 Fatty Acids, Min. 2.6
Calcium Min. 1
Phosphorous, Min. 0.9
Omega 3 Fatty Acids, Min. 0.4
Taurine, Min. 0.1
NB duck/pea canned
Duck, Duck Broth, Duck Liver, Pea Flour, Duck Meal, Pea Protein, Salmon Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Sodium Chloride, Flaxseed, Dried Cranberries, Yucca Schidigera, Carrageenan, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B 12 Supplement.
Guaranteed Analysis %:
Moisture, Max 78
Crude Protein, Min. 9
Crude Fat, Min. 6
Crude Fiber, Max. 1
Taurine, Min. 0.1
Magnesium, Max 0.02
NB venison/pea canned:Venison, Venison Broth, Venison Liver, Pea Flour, Venison Meal, Salmon Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Kelp, Flaxseed, Guar Gum, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Potassium Chloride, Methionine, Taurine, Parsley, Dried Cranberries, Yucca Schidigera, Sodium Chloride, Carrageenan, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate,Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate,Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin, Vitamin A Supplement,Folic Acid, Vitamin K Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12.
Guaranteed Analysis %:
Moisture (max) 78
Crude Protein (min) 9
Crude Fat (min) 5
Crude Fiber (max) 1
Taurine (min) 0.05
2. What "allergy" diets could I use that would be better in terms of ph and not promoting crystals (I've been looking at the Cal. natural herring/sweet potato if he's not allergic to either of those ingredients, have also been looking at "dog" allergy foods made by cal. natural)?
3. What are "good", "ok", and "bad" numbers for the minerals, etc. that cause crystals (so that I'll know what to look for)?
I have ordered some of the NB duck/pea and venison/pea cans (coming next week) so I plan on feeding Toby about half dry NB and half canned (if I can get him to eat that much). I won't be getting any of the EVO canned rabbit or venison, so that won't be an option for now.
Thanks for your help!
Art
After taking Toby to the vet on Wednesday w/ the infamous "peeing outside the box" symptom, she did a urinalysis and it came back with crystals and bacteria... She said it could be due to either the bacteria or the diet he's on (NB duck/pea). She sent us home with antibiotics to treat the bacteria in hopes that would clear up the crystals.
I've got my fingers crossed that will solve the problem, but just in case it is the diet, I have some questions for you food gurus or those with experience with crystals and allergies...
1. Is NB greenpea/duck dry or the NB cans especially bad in terms of promoting crystal growth?
I'll post the nutrition info below
NB duck/pea dry:
Peas, Duck Meal, Duck, Canola Oil, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Methionine, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols, Zinc Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamim B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic acide (Vitamin B).
Guaranteed Analysis %:
Crude Protein, Min. 30
Crude Fat, Min. 12
Moisture, Max. 10
Crude Fiber, Max. 4
Omega 6 Fatty Acids, Min. 2.6
Calcium Min. 1
Phosphorous, Min. 0.9
Omega 3 Fatty Acids, Min. 0.4
Taurine, Min. 0.1
NB duck/pea canned
Duck, Duck Broth, Duck Liver, Pea Flour, Duck Meal, Pea Protein, Salmon Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Guar Gum, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Sodium Chloride, Flaxseed, Dried Cranberries, Yucca Schidigera, Carrageenan, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B 12 Supplement.
Guaranteed Analysis %:
Moisture, Max 78
Crude Protein, Min. 9
Crude Fat, Min. 6
Crude Fiber, Max. 1
Taurine, Min. 0.1
Magnesium, Max 0.02
NB venison/pea canned:Venison, Venison Broth, Venison Liver, Pea Flour, Venison Meal, Salmon Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Kelp, Flaxseed, Guar Gum, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Potassium Chloride, Methionine, Taurine, Parsley, Dried Cranberries, Yucca Schidigera, Sodium Chloride, Carrageenan, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate,Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate,Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin, Vitamin A Supplement,Folic Acid, Vitamin K Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12.
Guaranteed Analysis %:
Moisture (max) 78
Crude Protein (min) 9
Crude Fat (min) 5
Crude Fiber (max) 1
Taurine (min) 0.05
2. What "allergy" diets could I use that would be better in terms of ph and not promoting crystals (I've been looking at the Cal. natural herring/sweet potato if he's not allergic to either of those ingredients, have also been looking at "dog" allergy foods made by cal. natural)?
3. What are "good", "ok", and "bad" numbers for the minerals, etc. that cause crystals (so that I'll know what to look for)?
I have ordered some of the NB duck/pea and venison/pea cans (coming next week) so I plan on feeding Toby about half dry NB and half canned (if I can get him to eat that much). I won't be getting any of the EVO canned rabbit or venison, so that won't be an option for now.
Thanks for your help!
Art
