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post #1 of 19
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http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/...israel-policy/

for once, i am going to have to agree with hillary.
Clinton then chimed in to say she rejected support from an anti-Israel group during her 2000 Senate run, and that Obama’s denunciation of Farrakhan is not as strong as a rejection.

Obmama resful to reject farrakhan, should be enough of a answer.
post #2 of 19
Wait a minute- is it his fault if Farrakhan supporters have endorsed him? He surely did not seek this endorsement...
post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
Wait a minute- is it his fault if Farrakhan supporters have endorsed him? He surely did not seek this endorsement...
It's not a question about being at "fault" if Farrakhan endorsed him. Obviously, a candidate has no choice about which nutjob group or individual may decide to support/endorse him. The issue is how the candidate *responds* to that endorsement. For a smart guy, Obama gave a foolish reply. Farrakhan is a hateful, racist lunatic. Obama should have strongly denounced him as such and made every effort to disassociate himself from Farrakhan. Imagine David Duke endorsing McCain and McCain giving the lame response Obama did...the dems would be beating McCain over the head with that til the last second of the election. No worries however, for the teflon candidate, Obama. This will all be forgotten by the next news cycle.
post #4 of 19
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Wait a minute- is it his fault if Farrakhan supporters have endorsed him? He surely did not seek this endorsement...

i just watched on DVR from last night.
If someone would ask me, if i want the support of the KKK,
its not going to take me 30 seconds of stamming, and changing my words to say, NO i dont want there suppot
post #5 of 19
I thought he said he would "reject AND denounce" Farrakhan because he didn't see a difference between rejecting and denouncing? In fact, I distinctly remember it.

Lame? Sure, fine. The point is, I don't think he's in bed with Farrakhan as it were.
post #6 of 19
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in truth i had not made up mind , who i was going to vote for.
but obama's response he has been removed from my list.
post #7 of 19
Sounds like Hillary is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Reject, denounce, and she is the better candidate because she 'rejected' support as opposed to merely 'denouncing' it? Don't they have anything more substantial to quibble over?
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
Sounds like Hillary is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Reject, denounce, and she is the better candidate because she 'rejected' support as opposed to merely 'denouncing' it? Don't they have anything more substantial to quibble over?
Actually, "denounce" is stronger than "reject":

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/denounce
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reject
post #9 of 19
Hah! Did you see the impressions she did of him? Clutching at straws or what? And he did say reject AND denounce. Maybe he was surprised she could cling onto such a tiny thing. It seemed to me like he thought he'd already said no to Farrakhan's support, and that it was merely rewording.
post #10 of 19
So Obama passed the "black candidate litmus test" by rejecting/denouncing Farrakhan. What's next?
post #11 of 19
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lol Obama & Farrakhan go bowling on together on the weekends. He is a supporter of farrakhan. you could tell by the way obama answered the question.


http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/..._obamas_c.html
post #12 of 19
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when Obama got the bad news about the endorsement. The poor staffer that had to tell him "Uh, sir... we have a small problem..."
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
lol Obama & Farrakhan go bowling on together on the weekends. He is a supporter of farrakhan. you could tell by the way obama answered the question.


http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/..._obamas_c.html
Right, and they both talk about how the Fruit of Islam could be the next training ground for the FBI.
post #14 of 19
One of Hillary's supporters who is a Latina activist in Texas said something stupid, that she would support Obama if he weren't black, and went on with a rant about the division between Hispanics and African Americans. Hillary at first tried to dance around it and her campaign put out a statement later that she rejected and denounced what she has said. McCain has also been embarrassed by a far right conservative and had to make a public statement denouncing what he has said. A candidate can't control what people on the extremes say and they can't control them publicly endorsing them.
post #15 of 19
Why is it that because Obama's father was from Kenya, that makes him "black" anyway? He is as much white as he is black - as if that makes a difference.
post #16 of 19
From what I understand he himself, after being torn about it in his youth, thinks of himself as African American. Most of us whether we know it or not, if we come from a number of generations in this country, are a mixture of races. I know that I am half Cherokee, both of my parents were half. I have always thought of myself as white though. Many people who think of themselves as white, especially if they have roots in the deep south, probably have some black in the mix. Many people who think of themselves as African American probably have some white and Native American in the mix. He has chosen to think of himself as African American but I don't think that is the equivalent of denying his mother's ethnicity.
post #17 of 19
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Right, and they both talk about how the Fruit of Islam could be the next training ground for the FBI.
lol yea, sorry but if my church as that loony i would be leaving.
since he stays, then he must be supporting there points of view.
makes all the excuses for the him the press or people wants. It clear to me that man is not fit for the job, and should be having coffee with Ahmadinejad.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
lol yea, sorry but if my church as that loony i would be leaving.
since he stays, then he must be supporting there points of view.
makes all the excuses for the him the press or people wants. It clear to me that man is not fit for the job, and should be having coffee with Ahmadinejad.
The funny thing is that he and Ahmadinejad wouldn't get along. Have you read the Autobiography of Malcolm X? They sort of blame him for X's assassination. Things wouldn't go well for him if he showed up in Iran.
post #19 of 19
If you had watched the entire debate, you would realize that the audience was laughing about Hillary's attack about the choice of word, reject versus denounce. It was a stupid and inappropriate comment by Hillary. Why are people even debating this?
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