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good story.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...536232,00.html
post #2 of 12
The author makes some great comparisons. I particularly liked this one:
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Hillary Clinton, his rival in the fight for the Democratic nomination, suffers from the same problems as traditional companies in the automotive and engineering industries did when confronted with the hype of the New Economy. She is out of touch with his supporters. She uses language to explain, while Obama uses rhetoric to intoxicate. She tells voters what she is bringing to the table. He tells them what they can become. If Clinton is a solid stock, Obama is an option. If she's a secure investment, he is speculation.
The same author wrote an interesting article about McCain's chances earlier this month:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...534797,00.html
post #3 of 12
Count on Spiegel to pound on the "Americans-are-soooooo-superficial" drum. It sells because that is what Spiegel's readers think anyway.
post #4 of 12
Great articles, both of them.

I think it is pathetic that it is not being reported that Obama has said, more than one, invading Pakistan. That article reinforces all my feelings about Obama's inexperience, utopian ideals, and lack of anything tangible.
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Count on Spiegel to pound on the "Americans-are-soooooo-superficial" drum. It sells because that is what Spiegel's readers think anyway.
That was more "Obama's supporters are so superficial". Spiegel has actually become more of an "equal opportunity basher" over the past decade or so, in part because it now has a rival in Focus http://www.focus.de/ ; Stern has never really recovered from publishing "Hitler's diaries".

Berlin had a mock Democratic primary a couple of weeks ago, and Obama won.
Bruce, what are you doing reading such a "leftist" magazine?
post #6 of 12
I'm familiar with Focus. Helmut Markwort really came up in the world after he left "Gong" didn't he?
I was wondering the same thing though about Bruce reading Spiegel. It's too far to the left even for me.
post #7 of 12
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Bruce, what are you doing reading such a "leftist" magazine?
Same reason i listen to NPR They make me laugh.
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
I was wondering the same thing though about Bruce reading Spiegel. It's too far to the left even for me.
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Originally Posted by jcat
Bruce, what are you doing reading such a "leftist" magazine?
Maybe he has a google alert for "Obama bashing."
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by katie=^..^= View Post
Maybe he has a google alert for "Obama bashing."
the turth is not fun thing is it?
but hey if you think sitting down with terror people and attacking Pakistan,
are a good thing. Then i guess obama is your man
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Count on Spiegel to pound on the "Americans-are-soooooo-superficial" drum. It sells because that is what Spiegel's readers think anyway.
Tricia's right, it's more Obama's supporters are sooo superficial drum. They think the grass is going to be greener on the other side...even if it is greener, just watch out for the dog poo...
post #11 of 12
The Washington Post has an interesting article on Obama's eloquence which touches on some of the same things the Spiegel article does: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews
post #12 of 12
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that was good. Obama does give a right pretty speech.
But hmm does not really say anything.

i like him to some degree, some of the things he has said i do agree with. However what i see as more important he does not get a passing grade.
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