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post #1 of 21
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you know, i really thought as a whole we were past this.
this being race As whole i really thouht people had started to move pass this junk. (not i wanted to say thing else, but i dont want a pm from katie telling i was being bad)

As i was trying to drink some coffee, after my morning XP with getting teeth yanked out of my head. I was doing the spying on other people conversations. Yea i know its rude, but who cares.

One table, people group of people where talking about bambam(or Obama)
the statement made was, " i hope someone puts a bullet in his head before these dummies can vote for him I dont want no Sand Ni******* " ok granted they where older people

Group of women,
i am voting for obama he is cute, said one
another well i am voteing for hillary cause she is a women,
her friend said but you voted for Rep last time,
the women said well i would vote for women over any man, i dont care that i dont think she can do the job, i am voting for her anyway..

another group was talking Rep, and how the one was a member of Devil worshipping cult,

lol well you get the point
Etc,Etc,

more i listen to people talk the more i am thinking abortions are good thing.

or it could just be the drugs, from getting teeth yanked out....
post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
One table, people group of people where talking about bambam(or Obama)
the statement made was, " i hope someone puts a bullet in his head before these dummies can vote for him I dont want no Sand Ni******* " ok granted they where older people
I find the above statement really shocking in this day and age. The Civil Rights Movement was forty years ago, so even if they were older people, they must have been "fairly" young back then, and it should have had an impact on them.

It doesn't surprise me that some women will vote for Hillary simply because of her gender. I think a lot of women in the U.S. have been asking themselves for decades when there would be a serious female candidate/president.

I hope your mouth feels better ASAP.
post #3 of 21
When Gov. Swartznegger was running, I overheard men in Vons grocery story saying that they were voting for him cuz "he's the Terminator"
It reminds me of the movie "Idiocrasy"
post #4 of 21
Unfortunately racism is alive and well in the U.S. It's just most people try to keep their attitudes hidden except with other people who feel the way they do. I think people of color can also have racist attitudes and many do, it's just that with the way some have been treated it's more understandable as to where the attitude comes from.
I would love to be able to vote for a woman for President. Hillary is too polarizing though and will do nothing to try to stop the bitter partisanship in Washington, she will only add to it.
post #5 of 21
Now Bruce, you know I wanted to keep our PM relationship just between us. Oh, did you mean some other Katie? Oh, Oh, Oh I'm so embarrassed.....

The scariest part of this to me is the gun part. I'm not the only one afraid of that. Just because he is part-black and very charismatic. and comparisons are being made with the Kennedys. I felt like I was kicked in the gut just reading it.
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by catsknowme View Post
When Gov. Swartznegger was running, I overheard men in Vons grocery story saying that they were voting for him cuz "he's the Terminator"
It reminds me of the movie "Idiocrasy"
OMG I love that movie!!!

I lived through some of the civil rights era and things were horribly racist back then. But as the years have gone by, it's only been recently that I've noticed people becoming honestly color blind. But there are still pockets of people out there that haven't gotten over it. One of the reasons I love Chicago is that you see so many mixed raced couples up there, and people don't care. One of the reasons I hated Houston was because my company only hired minorities for the cafeteria and janitorial jobs, and my neighbors used to tell me to "get a Mexican" to mow my lawn. It's one of the reasons why I moved out of there.

As a woman, there is a part of me that wants a woman president. I can understand that sentiment.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
(not i wanted to say thing else, but i dont want a pm from katie telling i was being bad)
if you wouldn't be bad I wouldn't have to edit be creative!

I agree it's so sad that people still hold on to the prejudices they have, but living in the same area as you do, Bruce, I can honestly say I'm not that surprised

I wish people would vote on the issues not the candidates, but the way campaigning is it seems that candidates have to sell themselves, not their platform
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
Group of women,
i am voting for obama he is cute, said one
That's part of politics though. Think way back during Kennedy vs. Nixon in 1960. Part of Kennedy winning was due to the fact that he wore makeup during all of his TV appearances...Nixon didn't.

Heck even Bush is "cuter" than John Kerry.

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I find the above statement really shocking in this day and age. The Civil Rights Movement was forty years ago, so even if they were older people, they must have been "fairly" young back then, and it should have had an impact on them.
Depends on who raised you...not everyone was on the bandwagon for civil rights and if they had been using the "N" word before, a few laws wasn't going to stop them from saying it in front of their friends or behind closed doors.

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I wish people would vote on the issues not the candidates, but the way campaigning is it seems that candidates have to sell themselves, not their platform
Unfortunately politics are not for everyone. So Politicians are now campaigning to 'what is hip' and what is 'cool'. I'm sure many 18 year olds (ahem but not all -just to clarify) will vote for a candidate because he or she has a cooler myspace page that the other candidate
post #9 of 21
As regards a woman voting for a woman just because.......

It seems different to vote for someone because you like what they are than to express hatred toward someone just because of something they can't change.
post #10 of 21
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i dont see a difference, Both are wrong.
vote for the issues not there sex, or race.
post #11 of 21
I am afraid for Obama too. Katie, like you, my gut just cringes. Young, intelligent, charismatic, potential for sweeping change ...sets him up for the nut rods. Add to that being African American and then the racist nut cases are really going to put a target on him. I was just telling my sister the other night I wish he had one of those bullet proof "pope mobiles" that John Paul had.

I hope to goodness I am wrong. Whether he is nominated or not Obama has a place in helping steer this country into the future. It seems it is always those with so much potential that get targeted.

As to people talking/voting in these asinine ways I am not surprised. Our country has become unbelievably "dumbed down". We have become so accustomed to sound bites and tidbits taken out of context. The media seems to have lost its purpose to INFORM the public.
post #12 of 21
There are so many Bigots areound still. People should Vote for who they think can do the job. It hould not be Race and Gender. I have a Nephew that is half Black and he has got called terrible names in School. He is home Schooled now.
post #13 of 21
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Group of women,
i am voting for obama he is cute, said one
another well i am voteing for hillary cause she is a women,
her friend said but you voted for Rep last time,
the women said well i would vote for women over any man, i dont care that i dont think she can do the job, i am voting for her anyway..
This IS the reason why this country is messed up. Voting for someone because you think he is cute, for God's sake or just because Hillary is a woman...good lord help us. People, do the research. Don't listen to their lies, look to see what they have done, read about their back ground etc.
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As to people talking/voting in these asinine ways I am not surprised. Our country has become unbelievably "dumbed down". We have become so accustomed to sound bites and tidbits taken out of context. The media seems to have lost its purpose to INFORM the public
Have you read the thread I started about "The New World Order"? I know most of that is more than likely a conspiracy theory, but realizing how dumbed down we have become, makes you think it is not just a theory after all. I believe they talk about this dumbing down as well in the video. Voting for someone because he is cute, she is good looking or because she is a woman is dumb. That isn't going to help anything. God, this makes me want to pack my bags and move to the remotest place left in the rainf forest. Well, depends on who our next president is, I may just do that.
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I would love to be able to vote for a woman for President. Hillary is too polarizing though and will do nothing to try to stop the bitter partisanship in Washington, she will only add to it.
I agree with you. Another reason I will not vote for her, is I feel she is not a strong leader. I watched that video of her crying over....I forget what it was about, but it made me sick. What is she going to do if she was president and the times got really tough. Is she going to cry and break down? As a man, I have no problem voting for a woman if she is qualified. My wife told me she would never ever vote for any woman as president. I asked why? She said, "I work with all woman on my job, the minute one gets power or some type of authority, they don't care about anying else. Woman are worse than men in that respect" Hey, don't yell at me, I didn't say this, my wife did Please don't shoot the messanger
post #14 of 21
Just a question: if a woman cries, this means she is not strong? She must be like a man (or as men are stereotyped to be) and hold it all in? Women, as a gender, are very strong and their tears have never made them "weak".

I won't base my vote on gender. Just knowing a handful of women in one's life who have let power go to their heads is not a good enough reason to NOT vote for a woman. There are a whole bunch of us in this country and rarely are we the same.
post #15 of 21
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i dont want to see anyone cry in public. Man or women. TO me that shows they have no self control
post #16 of 21
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i dont want to see anyone cry in public. Man or women. TO me that shows they have no self control
It is okay to laugh, shout, hug - all acceptable public emotions. But tears? Heaven forbid! Amazing the power those little drops of saltwater have. To me, tears are just another emotional expression. They do not imply a loss of self-control. That is a myth.
post #17 of 21
personally as crazy as people are, esp racists i would not be suprised if someone tried to shoot obama. no, i am not racist, but if you listen to peoples reactions to him, his religion, his past, his race it wont be long before some radical nut decides to keep him from having a chance at the presidency.

as for hillary, i think she needs to take her pms pills and go lay down before she ruins things worse then they are.

as for crying in public, personally i think that was staged to get people's attention and to draw on the emotions of women, instead it made her look weak. crying in public isnt neccessarily a bad thing, unless you are trying to win an election and prove you can lead a country.

what next, have an old fart run for the presidency and let him stand there and piss his depends to show his human side?
post #18 of 21
I am a woman and a Democrat. I won't be voting for Hillary though. I don't trust her and I don't think she is sincere about anything. As far as her little show of "emotion" some people have called "crying". I believe those were crocodile tears, for the express purpose of trying to convince people that she was a human being, with normal human emotions. It was all an act.
post #19 of 21
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I am a woman and a Democrat. I won't be voting for Hillary though. I don't trust her and I don't think she is sincere about anything. As far as her little show of "emotion" some people have called "crying". I believe those were crocodile tears, for the express purpose of trying to convince people that she was a human being, with normal human emotions. It was all an act.
What is extremely funny about Hillary's tears and the reaction to them: Up until the point of those tears, everyone criticized her because she was cold and unemotional (use the "b" word if you will). Since the tears, people criticize her that she's not strong enough. There is nothing she can do without criticism.

I am also a woman and a democrat. I didn't vote for Hillary in the caucus this week because her name alone causes people to become divisive. I think she is sincere. I think she witnessed first hand how good staff around you can get things done (rather than trying to make all the decisions themselves). But she will never get past the hatred of her name and won't be able to unify the country. Without that unification, she won't be able to solve the countries problems. I repeat: I would love to see a woman as president. But one that can be effective.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by Bonnie1965 View Post
It is okay to laugh, shout, hug - all acceptable public emotions. But tears? Heaven forbid! They do not imply a loss of self-control. That is a myth.
Nope not a myth. since that is what i think, therefor its real.
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
What is extremely funny about Hillary's tears and the reaction to them: Up until the point of those tears, everyone criticized her because she was cold and unemotional (use the "b" word if you will). Since the tears, people criticize her that she's not strong enough. There is nothing she can do without criticism.

I am also a woman and a democrat. I didn't vote for Hillary in the caucus this week because her name alone causes people to become divisive. I think she is sincere. I think she witnessed first hand how good staff around you can get things done (rather than trying to make all the decisions themselves). But she will never get past the hatred of her name and won't be able to unify the country. Without that unification, she won't be able to solve the countries problems. I repeat: I would love to see a woman as president. But one that can be effective.
Well...I STILL think she's cold and unemotional, and the "b" word. I think the tears were all an act to try and convince people, that there is a human being inside that iron shell of hers.

I have no problem with the Clinton name, because I admired Bill Clinton as a president, but Hillary Clinton is NOT Bill Clinton.

I'd love to see a woman in the White House, if she was qualified. However, I will never vote for a woman, just because she IS a woman.

I like Obama. I think he's a lot more sincere, a lot more honest, and I also think he's less involved with the Good Ole Boys Political machine. He may learn how to be deceiving and underhanded just like all of the other politicians, as time goes by, but right now, I think he's the only hope we have. Sadly, I don't think he'll be elected.
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