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When McCain dumped his wife - I didn't know

post #1 of 19
1/25/08 at 6:54pm
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C0A9669C8B63

So, it's true....and I was thinking that I might "jump sides" and vote for him. His current wife, Cindy McCain, is 18 years younger & comes from a rich and powerful family who launched his political career! His former wife, suffering from disfigurement and weight gain, had to watch him not-discreetly court a tall, blonde, gorgeous 25 year-old
C'mon, Dems - you'all must've known. Gee, it's a good thing I have some right wing friends who could tell me. They also mentioned something about some "McKinzie 5" scandal, or something like that. Why is it that we all know about Monica Lewinsky (re:the Clintons), but only hear about McCain's POW record.
So, if John Edwards doesn't get the nomination......looks like I need to research Huckabee
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post #2 of 19
1/25/08 at 7:24pm
I do wonder why we've never heard about this...and the NY Times...well, it makes me curious...
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post #3 of 19
1/25/08 at 7:53pm
IMO it just sounds like something in the first marriage just wasn't "working". Perhaps she was the reasoning behind him not making admiral and it really frustrated him.

I personally don't look too much at politician's past. IMO there are few who are truely the proper representative for America in every way shape and form. I take into cconsideration what have they done recently to help out the city/state/fed and what can they do for us.
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post #4 of 19
1/25/08 at 9:17pm
I think it was generally known among Republicans and is one of the underlying reasons why evangelicals don't like McCain. I think it was never really known because he has never really been a serious candidate for President. There is another dirty little story about his current wife involving her stealing drugs from her non-profit relief agency to feed her addiction to painkillers. For some reason the last time he ran in 2000 they picked up an untrue story about one of their children being his biological black child. Actually she was adopted from a Bangladesh orphanage. That was really an ugly episode playing into racist attitudes in South Carolina. McCain reacted with accusations of intolerance made towards people like Falwell which completely sunk his candidacy.
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post #5 of 19
1/25/08 at 9:33pm
I don't think it's a big deal. He married someone younger, prettier, and richer - that doesn't mean he wasn't in love with her, and it doesn't mean he dumped his wife because she wasn't as young/pretty/rich. Given that it looks like it was an amicable split, and his ex-wife still supports him, I don't think she holds a grudge, and neither should the public.

Marrieages break up. It happens. If it DOES happen, does it mean that you have to find someone less appealing than your ex?
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post #6 of 19
1/25/08 at 9:43pm
I didn't read the whole article, just the first page. But just from the first page it was pretty clear that the piece was as much opinion as fact, and definitely wasn't the intent to cast a positive light on him.

There are a LOT of reasons why marriages fail, and the fact that his family supports him now says a lot about their marriage and the ending of it. We weren't there. That reporter wasn't there. And it was 35 years ago.

The reason that Bill Clinton and Monica (or any of his other women) are talked about is because he is a serial cheater. McCain married Cindy and has, by all accounts, stayed faithful to (t)his marriage. And frankly the only reason anyone knew or cared about Slick Willy's willy is because he was prosecuted while sitting as President for sexually harassing Paula Jones and perjured himself about Monica on the stand. If he hadn't done that, his womanizing would have been a footnote, like John Kennedy.
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post #7 of 19
1/25/08 at 11:29pm
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Originally Posted by catsknowme View Post
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C0A9669C8B63

So, it's true....and I was thinking that I might "jump sides" and vote for him. His current wife, Cindy McCain, is 18 years younger & comes from a rich and powerful family who launched his political career! His former wife, suffering from disfigurement and weight gain, had to watch him not-discreetly court a tall, blonde, gorgeous 25 year-old
C'mon, Dems - you'all must've known. Gee, it's a good thing I have some right wing friends who could tell me. They also mentioned something about some "McKinzie 5" scandal, or something like that. Why is it that we all know about Monica Lewinsky (re:the Clintons), but only hear about McCain's POW record.
So, if John Edwards doesn't get the nomination......looks like I need to research Huckabee
Wow. I didn't know that his wife was in a car crush and suffered a weight gain because of it, and he pursued a young rich woman, divorced his wife and re-married.
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post #8 of 19
1/26/08 at 12:39pm
The article does more than imply that he divorced his wife because she was disfigured and had gained weight, but who knows if that's true? I can imagine that his experience as a POW, and hers as a single parent, put a major strain on the relationship.
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post #9 of 19
1/26/08 at 1:30pm
Guess it's a good thing I judge candidates based on how good of a President they'll make, rather than how good of a husband.
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post #10 of 19
1/26/08 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Guess it's a good thing I judge candidates based on how good of a President they'll make, rather than how good of a husband.
Or wife. I imagine there's still a lot more muckraking to come. I'm actually surprised that the NY Times piece didn't mention that McCain was once a Democrat!
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post #11 of 19
1/26/08 at 1:37pm
All I know is, between campaigning, coverage of the campaigning, and the writer's strike, there is NOTHING good on TV
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post #12 of 19
1/26/08 at 1:43pm
It is not as if he got back from Vietnam took one look at his wife and dumped her. They divorced years after he got back. Who knows what the strain of years of separation, grueling therapy and goodness knows what else came between them. Frankly I consider their marriage thier business. This was all over twenty years ago and they seem to be at peace with it so I have no real interest in it. I consider Hillary's and Bill's marriage to be thier business and not mine so I give the same consideration to the McCains.

What I give more credence to is the knowledge he gave time and hope to a terminally ill little girl when he did not have to and the fact he had the management skills to take a trouble squadron and improve it to good working order.

What really troubles me about the political process and probably the reason that we do not have more qualified people running is the fact you can never do anything "wrong". I am sure there are great people out there that are more qualified than many of the politician that we currently have that would never run due to the scrutiny of every single thing that you ever did at any point in your life. While I understand that it is all fair game I personally would hate to be judged today for some things that I did earlier in my life.
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post #13 of 19
1/26/08 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
All I know is, between campaigning, coverage of the campaigning, and the writer's strike, there is NOTHING good on TV
That might explain all the controversial posts/threads here!
I've given up on television. I watch a couple of news broadcasts, but that's about it. Any TV series I really like, I buy as DVDs.
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post #14 of 19
1/26/08 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Or wife. I imagine there's still a lot more muckraking to come. I'm actually surprised that the NY Times piece didn't mention that McCain was once a Democrat!
Oh, that would be too much! LOL.

I was thinking after I read that article, that it couldn't be that bad if his former wife still supports him. Plus I think a lot of wartime marriages have trouble after the military person comes home. That shouldn't really reflect badly on anyone.
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post #15 of 19
1/26/08 at 2:35pm
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the NY Times piece didn't mention that McCain was once a Democrat!
He shoulda stayed there.
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post #16 of 19
1/26/08 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by kluchetta View Post
Oh, that would be too much! LOL.

I was thinking after I read that article, that it couldn't be that bad if his former wife still supports him. Plus I think a lot of wartime marriages have trouble after the military person comes home. That shouldn't really reflect badly on anyone.
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He shoulda stayed there.
I wouldn't presume to judge him. My ex did two tours of duty in Vietnam, and when we got involved, I was a somewhat naive teenager, and he was a man in his late 20's who'd literally gone through hell. Looking back, our relationship had no chance of succeeding, and we've both been married to other people for nearly three decades. I love him to this day, and we still watch out for each other, and maintain contact. I thus can consider McCain's first marriage not as a minus, but a a plus,
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post #17 of 19
1/26/08 at 5:24pm
Considering his record of actually being able to successfully bridge the gap and work on getting compromise bills passed, it doesn't surprise me at all that he was a Democrat at one time.

Heck, my favorite politician ever was Ben Nighthorse Campbell who was a Democrat for many, many years (yes, I voted for him then) and then got sick of the Democrat politicing and switched sides to the Republican party. It didn't make much difference - he won the elections he was in regardless. But he didn't play the "party line" game in Congress - he voted the way his constuents wished him to vote, and he was well in touch with his constituents. That is what politicians are supposed to do!

While the hardliners wouldn't like that he was once a Democrat, I personally think that we need someone who can unite the non-hardliners in Washington. That is how things will change, not by continuing with the same old thing we have now that has just been exaggerated by putting more of the hardliners in power (Bush vs. Pelosi & Reid).

That's pretty much the way I see this "revelation" of there being a *gasp* divorce in his past. Hardliners who feel there is no good reason short of abuse to ever leave a marriage will chastise him for his past. Others who don't feel that way will just say that it was 30 years ago - ancient history - and she supports him now. If she can, who am I to judge what happened in his private life that long ago?
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post #18 of 19
1/26/08 at 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
I wouldn't presume to judge him. My ex did two tours of duty in Vietnam, and when we got involved, I was a somewhat naive teenager, and he was a man in his late 20's who'd literally gone through hell. Looking back, our relationship had no chance of succeeding, and we've both been married to other people for nearly three decades. I love him to this day, and we still watch out for each other, and maintain contact. I thus can consider McCain's first marriage not as a minus, but a a plus,
I don't know why you quoted my post to leave this reply. I didn't say a word about his divorce.
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post #19 of 19
1/27/08 at 12:17am
"His current wife, Cindy McCain, is 18 years younger & comes from a rich and powerful family who launched his political career"

hmm i dont think at that age, 18 years makes that much of a difference in looks. But i still have a long way to go to get there, so i will have to take a rain check., hmm Rich and powerful?
hmm rich? how rich. does she have a sister?
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