Can any one guess this breed?

I met this man at a store, he had this kitten on his shoulder while walking through the store.
I have a vauge idea, but I want to wait and see what other people have to say about him.

Looks liks a pet quality ragdoll or a pet quality birman. The golden shading (unless its the photo) looks more like what the Birmans have. The kitten is cute tho

Why didn't you stop and ask him what it was?

I did ask him, but he was very confussing, he said it had papers but said two different breeds not sure if they are exceptable outcrosses. he also said he paid a lot for him because the mitts were rare. So I was wondering if some one would guess what he said without me saying what he said.

Maybe the cat was a Ragamuffin. I understand they do accept the pointed colors as well as the solids, etc. And if the papers were mixed, its possible to be a Ragamuffin/Ragdoll mix.

Sounds byb to me

No he said it wasn't a ragdoll (or ragamuffin, I thought for sure it was a ragdoll.

I will just tell you what he told he, with those ears no one will guess I bet.

He said he was a himilayan. then said he paid more because the white (which would be a penelty or default, right?) But then he really confussed me by saying snow shoe. So is it possible to be a snowshoe/himi mix, and be registered? I didn't think they were exceptable outcrosses, but don't know much about himi's.
Himi's ears aren't that big are they?

What about a Snowshoe? Now if it is one of the new breeds like Ragamuffin or Snowshoe, and outcrosses to different breeds are allowed, how is that being a byb? And what is a lot of money to a pet owner? To him he payed a lot of money but to us it might not seem like it for a pedigreed cat of an uncommon breed.

I'd say Ragdoll or Birman, too.

Well neither the Snowshoe or Himi's have large pointed ears - both have rounded shorter ears (himis shorter then snowshoes). And neither breed is a legit outcross to begin with - so its a byb who is mixing breeds and ripping people off.

Sorry to say, he got ripped off by this "breeder".

Snowshoes have ASH as the outcross - not himi. And I'm not sure about the Ragamuffins (would have to look it up) but I'm almost positive that himis are not a legit outcross for them.


And willing to bet the papers are not from a legit major association either - probably one of the mill/byb ones.

Here's info on Snowshoes:

http://www.acfacats.com/snowshoe_standard.htm

http://www.acfacats.com/snowshoe_synopsis.htm

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

Well neither the Snowshoe or Himi's have large pointed ears - both have rounded shorter ears (himis shorter then snowshoes). And neither breed is a legit outcross to begin with - so its a byb who is mixing breeds and ripping people off.

Sorry to say, he got ripped off by this "breeder".

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I thought about the same, wish I asked where he got him
He looks a lot like some of my pet quality ragdolls, with that white "milk mustache" LOL!
Can himi's be mitted? I didn't think so, mabey that's where the snow shoe came in.
Either way, I don't think it is a registered cat, some one just thinking two cats are nice woulldn't they make nice kittens together and make himishoes, ect another attempt at "designer cats"

Originally Posted by SarahArizona

I'd say Ragdoll or Birman, too.

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here is a Ragdoll

Originally Posted by celestialrags

No he said it wasn't a ragdoll (or ragamuffin, I thought for sure it was a ragdoll.

I will just tell you what he told he, with those ears no one will guess I bet.

He said he was a himilayan. then said he paid more because the white (which would be a penelty or default, right?) But then he really confussed me by saying snow shoe. So is it possible to be a snowshoe/himi mix, and be registered? I didn't think they were exceptable outcrosses, but don't know much about himi's.
Himi's ears aren't that big are they?

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I must of been typing my message when you posted this I looked up the Snowshoe and Himi/Persian are not allowable outcrosses. I believe the allowable outcrosses were Siamese and American Shorthair. Either this is another new breed in creation? Longhaired Snowshoe? Or more than likely a byb.

What a cute kitten, riding on his shoulders like that. As for him being a himalyan.
He's got big ears, longish nose, shortish hair, and mittens.
Looks more like a Ragdoll or a Ragamaffin to me.

No way that's a Birman, at least not purebred. Birmans don't have the white on the face. Plus, the whole head shape/body shape just looks wrong to me. Birman ears aren't so pointy. Here's my two Birbabies for comparison.

I would have said Ragdoll as well. It's a pretty BIG kitten, for one. Not real fuzzy, but some get their fur later, like Smudge.

I have a CFA registered Himi that is pointed with white. She is certainly pet quality and I have no idea about the breeder since she was a rescue, but there is no cattery listed on her papers so she is probably from a BYB, but she certainly looks more to type than that kitten. Himi didn't even pop into my mind looking at that kitten!
When I was researching my cats unusual markings I did find a couple "breeders" listing pointed with white Himis as "Very Rare!" so that could be where he got the idea, I'm sure theses BYB's are coming up with an outrageous price to match their outrageous claims.
I bet someone took a Siamese and Himalayan and bred them together to make large, pointy eared "Himalayans".

Well the original pointed persians WERE created from breeding a persian to a siamese, so they probably would have the larger ears. It could be a pointed and white cat that was bred to a himalayan to produce that kitten.

Many people mislable "snowshoe" cats - those that are pointed with white on them.

Don't know what he is but he's beautiful


Kinda looks like my Tonka with socks on

He looks like a Ragdoll mix to me. The face is too pointy and the ears too big and pointy to be a Himmie.