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FDA Says Cloned Animals Are Safe For Food

post #1 of 23
1/15/08 at 2:25pm
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http://www.kotv.com/news/national/story/?id=143050
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post #2 of 23
1/15/08 at 2:27pm
What's the difference between cloned animals and animals that are born naturally? I don't get why they need to clone these animals!
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post #3 of 23
1/15/08 at 2:34pm
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I think it has to do with the fact that cows only have calves like one per year, so cloning would be quicker and in theory they could alter the calves to make them grow faster??? just a guess
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post #4 of 23
1/15/08 at 2:36pm
I haven't heard anything about a cow shortage? It's a good guess though and probably right.
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post #5 of 23
1/15/08 at 2:38pm
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i am sure in the end it has to do with making more money somehow, everything is about the dollar, why would this be any different, and its like a friend used to say, if it dont make dollars it dont make sence.
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post #6 of 23
1/15/08 at 3:00pm
Cloned animals DIE younger and often have more genetic issues.. Remember Dolly?? ... NO I will likely be eating only organic meat or meat from a farmer/ rancher I know
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post #7 of 23
1/15/08 at 3:30pm
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well if they are turning them into hamberger i dont see what dying younger would affect. they gonna kill em anyway
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post #8 of 23
1/15/08 at 6:24pm
What I read said that they are going to be able to market cloned meat without telling the consumer. Makes me glad I'm a vegan.
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post #9 of 23
1/15/08 at 10:53pm
They're not going to use cloned animal for meat, it's not cost effective at all. They want to use it to increase quality breeding stock and use those animals offspring which wouldn't be cloned. Look at the way they already collect sperm from top bulls and inseminate cows, there's not that much of a difference.

I could see this being more of an issue in the show ring though.
Clone the perfect show cow (or any other live stock animal) then tweak it to physical perfection. I bet there'll be some regulations added for what will and won't be accepted in shows in the future.
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post #10 of 23
1/15/08 at 11:03pm
all i have to say to FDA Says Cloned Animals Are Safe For Food
is yea right. sure i believe that.
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post #11 of 23
1/16/08 at 6:42pm
That's just creepy. It almost makes me want to go vegan again.
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post #12 of 23
1/16/08 at 7:33pm
You know if the quality was better than what I can get in the store, I would consider it...but only if the cost wasn't outragious.

I.e. I last time I went to the grocery, I decided to spend the extra cash at an Organic Chain store for what I had always heard as "better" meat. Nope. I just spent more money on the same gamey crap I buy at the regular grocer
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post #13 of 23
1/16/08 at 8:42pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/s...la-news-scimed

This editorial also talks about using the cloned animals to breed and then butchering the offspring for meat. The FDA didn't say that the meat from cloned animals had to be identified in any way so it will probably end up in the food supply somewhere.

Oh, yeah, this applies to dairy cows, too, I guess, so milk, etc. will be affected.

Pretty creepy, if you ask me. Again, I'm glad I'm a vegan.
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post #14 of 23
1/17/08 at 6:00am
I have a huge problem with the way factory farms are set up today. Cloning animals will only make it easier.
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post #15 of 23
1/17/08 at 11:46am
well, it'll be years before i have to decide... but it would mostly depend on cost & quality [taste]. if prices were identical, i'd probably go for the natural product, since i already have a lot of food intolerances, & i know those are ok for me. but if the cloned/clone offspring meat/dairy products were less expensive, i'd probably try them. if they caused me a problem or tasted 'off', i wouldn't get them again.
morally, i have no issues w/the cloning of animals... not like people, IMO.
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post #16 of 23
1/17/08 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
well, it'll be years before i have to decide... but it would mostly depend on cost & quality [taste]. if prices were identical, i'd probably go for the natural product, since i already have a lot of food intolerances, & i know those are ok for me. but if the cloned/clone offspring meat/dairy products were less expensive, i'd probably try them. if they caused me a problem or tasted 'off', i wouldn't get them again.
morally, i have no issues w/the cloning of animals... not like people, IMO.

According to the article the consumer wouldn't know if the food came from the offspring of a cloned animal. Would you feel differently if you knew meat from cloned offspring were being sold, but you couldn't tell what food products carried it?
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post #17 of 23
1/17/08 at 6:39pm
I thought they were growing bits of animals already, and that's what this is? Like, not a whole animal, but rather the way they grow tissues for transplant/grafts in some instances?

Also, I think it's much easier to manipulate the genes of cloned animals. You know, they've already forcibly evolved chickens that are so unnatural they can't stand (extra fat and bulk, that their legs can't support).
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post #18 of 23
1/18/08 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by katie=^..^= View Post
According to the article the consumer wouldn't know if the food came from the offspring of a cloned animal. Would you feel differently if you knew meat from cloned offspring were being sold, but you couldn't tell what food products carried it?
i don't have an issue w/the use of the meat, intellectually. just wouldn't use it if i had health issues w/it or it tasted differently. the health thing is the only reason i would want to know if it were in there [assuming i'd previously had a bad reaction]. i think, w/labeling laws getting stricter all the time, that the FDA will probably required some sort of disclaimer on the packaging.
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post #19 of 23
1/18/08 at 11:11am
That is why I miss going to a butcher for my meat. I know what I'm getting. Too bad my butcher closed. I hate buying my meat from the grocery stores, they just look odd.
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post #20 of 23
1/18/08 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
i don't have an issue w/the use of the meat, intellectually. just wouldn't use it if i had health issues w/it or it tasted differently. the health thing is the only reason i would want to know if it were in there [assuming i'd previously had a bad reaction]. i think, w/labeling laws getting stricter all the time, that the FDA will probably required some sort of disclaimer on the packaging.
According to the articles, there is no requirement by the FDA that the food from cloned offspring be identified. It could show up anywhere, including frozen meals, fast food restaurants, canned soups, etc. If we want this stuff marked we should start letting our representatives know right away, before it starts getting into the general food supply.

To me, this is the most alarming part of the situation.
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post #21 of 23
1/25/08 at 1:32pm
This just seems wrong to me we don't need cloned animals for food.thats all i got to say
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post #22 of 23
1/25/08 at 7:57pm
I heard an interview about this on NPR a few days ago. It seems that it is easier to genetically alter cattle when cloning. Then the offspring can be bred.

Chickens have already been genetically altered to breed them with breasts so huge they cannot walk.

It all sounds so gross and disgusting to me that I am very happy I decided to become vegan.

The man interviewed wanted everyone to get in touch with their federal Representative and Senators about the lack of notification that the food is cloned.
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post #23 of 23
1/28/08 at 10:15am
no way i would knowingly ever buy or eat cloned animals. that's just wrong
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