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post #1 of 34
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Excuse me, but I need to vent. I work at an animal control shelter and most of the dogs we get in are mutts. People call us looking for a pure bred dog and don't want hear about the great dogs we do have because they are mixed. We had one lady come in to look to see if her lost cat was there. Well, it wasn't and she asked if she could see the dogs. She looked and came back up to the front and she started talking to us. The conversation quickly became about her dog, which I think she called it a Shi-Poo. And then she specifically called it a "Designer Dog" Don't people realize that these designer dogs are nothing but mutts. To get her dog they mixed a Shi-Tzu and a Poodle to her so called Shi-Poo.
post #2 of 34
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Originally Posted by zao_cat View Post
Don't people realize that these designer dogs are nothing but mutts. To get her dog they mixed a Shi-Tzu and a Poodle to her so called Shi-Poo.
AND they charged her upwards of $1000, that's what I find the most disturbing!!! We were talking about this a bit in the cat's and other animals. It's VERY irritating knowing these people spend so much money for what they could find at the shelter!
post #3 of 34
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Exactly! The price for these designer dogs are outrageous! I wish everyone could actually see the over population problem that we have. It's sickening to see how many animals come through our shelter each month. Make adoption your first option!!!
post #4 of 34
The next time I ask someone what type of dog they have and they respond proudly with "It's a Cockapoo" or "It's a LhasaPoo" or WHATEVER, I'm going to respond with, "Oh, so it's a mutt..." and see their faces drop. Ha. I mean, come on, people!!! How many Lab mixes and Shepherd mixes are there out there that people don't consider DESIGNER?!! I've owned nothing but mutts my whole life and always adopted through a shelter.
post #5 of 34
My roommate owns one of these. A "Pini-Poo". (Miniature Pinscher x Poodle).

The dog was cute when she was a puppy, now she's just scruffy. Yes, she doesn't shed. But beyond that? She's got a horrid immune system... that dog's sick more than any other pet I've seen.

Although, my roommate will admit right off she's a mutt.
post #6 of 34
Don't get me started on the designer dogs thread

We dealt with that on the dog message boards!

They are mixed breeds or mutts - nothing more then that - I really hate when people label something and charge outrageous prices! They are NOT purebred anythings.

What really gets me is the cockapoos - people honestly think they are purebred dogs. AKC will never recognize them as they are not consistant and they have a statement regarding the "cross" of 2 AKC registered dogs - not recognizing them period now or later!
post #7 of 34
Maybe you should make up some stupid names for the shelter mutts and jack the adoptions fees WAY up and see if that helps. Maybe people will want the poor things if they think it's an incredibly valuable Beagapoo. I'm sure the shelter could use the extra money.
post #8 of 34
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Maybe you should make up some stupid names for the shelter mutts and jack the adoptions fees WAY up and see if that helps. Maybe people will want the poor things if they think it's an incredibly valuable Beagapoo. I'm sure the shelter could use the extra money.

That's a really good idea. We will never be able to do it though. I mean most people who come in really want to rescue an animal and don't care what kind it is as long as they see a connection with them. Most of our dogs are Pit/Lab mixes and as soon as they find out that it has Pit they are like well nice dog but no. UGH I should start calling them something like Staffordshire Retrievers.
post #9 of 34
Labrabulls?

It's a real shame that pits have gotten such a bad reputation. They're really sweet dogs when they aren't victims of bad breeding and/or training (and being a mix would help the breeding issues...).
post #10 of 34
Oh....how about the jerk-head who's breeding Staffuskies. Am staff/husky xs. Did I mention like hundreds of puppies a year?!?!

We've got a litter of "designer" beagle-adors. Alright, so mom was a lab/beagle who knows what dad is....but I wonder if we called them 'beagle-adors' if they'd get adopted faster?
post #11 of 34
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Labrabulls?

They're really sweet dogs when they aren't victims of bad breeding and/or training (and being a mix would help the breeding issues...).
I agree 100%. Right now we have this Pit that was used to fight and his ears are ripped and he has lots of sores not to mention mange all over but he is the sweetest dog in the world. When I give him treats he takes them out of my hands ever so gently and we can't press charges because the owners never claim ownership! It's a messed up world.
post #12 of 34
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Originally Posted by zao_cat View Post
Right now we have this Pit that was used to fight and his ears are ripped and he has lots of sores not to mention mange all over but he is the sweetest dog in the world. When I give him treats he takes them out of my hands ever so gently and we can't press charges because the owners never claim ownership! It's a messed up world.
Do you know what is so sad about that? He'll never be able to go to a home with another animal in it because of his past, yet has not become human aggressive for all the torture he's been put through.

The whole designer dog thing is just another part of people's materialism. They want something fancy and expensive to show off to their friends and family.


Staff x husky?... Are the people attempting to make the most stubborn dogs ever?
post #13 of 34
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Staff x husky?... Are the people attempting to make the most stubborn dogs ever?
We've had two for sure in the past 1-2 months, both are wonderful dogs. The first gal was sharp as a knife, trained easy. The one we have now is a little bit more stubborn, but she's picking up on commands.

Both were treated well & had received some prior training. I only dread when an untrained one comes in.
post #14 of 34
HUMMM.. MUTTs are any dog with a mixed pedigree ... I do find some mixes nice but amazingly they are the ones NOT purposely breed ... it is the opps my lab meet your shep kinda thing... the ones being Designed make me sick
post #15 of 34
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Originally Posted by Tari View Post
Maybe you should make up some stupid names for the shelter mutts and jack the adoptions fees WAY up and see if that helps. Maybe people will want the poor things if they think it's an incredibly valuable Beagapoo. I'm sure the shelter could use the extra money.
Actually, some folks about here do that (in the paper, not at the humane society). You know it's gone too far when you have to sit and stare at the name and try to figure out what it COULD be.
post #16 of 34
I didn't find much of anything at the AKC's official site, but these mixes aren't recognized/registered by the AKC.

This article from 2006 is interesting: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06014/637956-62.stm

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"We caution people to be very careful," said Daisy Okas, vice president of communications at the American Kennel Club. "There are a lot of people looking to capitalize" on a hot trend. "These are not purebred dogs. People are paying thousands of dollars for mixed-breed dogs. You could get a mixed-breed dog at any shelter or pound."

Purebred puppies generally sell for far less. Prices vary by breed and breeder, but AKC-registered puppies from established breeders that do genetic testing generally sell for $500 to $1,000.
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Breeders of designer dogs are starting their own clubs and registries. The International Labradoodle Association, incorporated in January 2004, has more than 1,300 registered dogs, according to its Web site, which also gives names and contact information for breeders who have joined that organization.
post #17 of 34
I always thought the designer breed "cocka-poo" was the funniest thing I ever heard. Well I guess if you put "poo" at the end of anything.

Hmmm...too bad you were working there and not a guest there...I would of said "Oh you mean a Sh-" ?
post #18 of 34
I think people just want to feel important about their dog. If one goes to a high end pet store, pays $1200 for a dog, gets some sort of "paper work", and goes home they feel they have something really special.

However, in most instances that person could have gotten in the car, gone to a shelter, paid anywhere from $60-100, and had the same animal. It doesn't feel as special because the shelter seems like the dog is used, or has some sort of issue.

It's really a matter of education, matching the right dog with the right person, and learning that this hybrid thing is really just a mutt.
post #19 of 34
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Hmmm...too bad you were working there and not a guest there...I would of said "Oh you mean a Sh-" ?
Yeah, I don't want to get fired but it always reminds me of that dumb and dumber joke about breeding a shi tzu and a bulldog.
post #20 of 34
Some info from AKC about designer dogs vs. rare breeds

http://dogs.lovetoknow.com/wiki/AKC_Dog_Breeds



About puppymills and designer dogs:

http://www.puppymillrescue.com/Desig...puppymills.htm


This one will make you sick - some of these crosses are ugly and its far worse then people imagine in what "breeders" are putting out to the public!

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/hybriddogs.htm
post #21 of 34
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Yeah, I don't want to get fired but it always reminds me of that dumb and dumber joke about breeding a shi tzu and a bulldog.
I forgot about that
post #22 of 34
Lol, Bullsh*t.

I want this "breed" (mutt) of cat, called a Puppykat. =3 It's basically a scottish fold, manx (and american shorthair, since both folds and manx are bred with them, right?) mix. But I don't want one because it's a "designer" breed" (or even a "breed", really!), but you know I'll be flaunting it, saying, "Oh, won't you -look- at my precious Puppykat!" ;D

I laugh at my friend, who works at a petstore, where they sell these ridiculous "designer" breeds. It's so silly to buy something like that for thousands of dollars, when you could have found one in the shelter; one that's probably better behaved, too!
post #23 of 34
I work in animal welfare and I feel your pain.

I love it when people say "Purebred Labradoodle" WTH?

Then I realize that these are the same stupid people who are breeding children and I feel a little more uneasy with the world.


*Grabs a mutt and hugs it*

This is how I feel there will always be people who like the status that their dog can give them, or make them feel important.

There will always be people who love a dog for who they are no matter what breed they are. They to them will be the most important/valueable dog ever. In the end I would like to believe or think that those mutts get better homes because someone wanted them for who they are and not what they are.
post #24 of 34
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I work in animal welfare and I feel your pain.

I love it when people say "Purebred Labradoodle" WTH?

Then I realize that these are the same stupid people who are breeding children and I feel a little more uneasy with the world.


*Grabs a mutt and hugs it*

This is how I feel there will always be people who like the status that their dog can give them, or make them feel important.

There will always be people who love a dog for who they are no matter what breed they are. They to them will be the most important/valueable dog ever. In the end I would like to believe or think that those mutts get better homes because someone wanted them for who they are and not what they are.
IN some areas of the world Labradoodle is a registered and regegnized breed... but in those countrys breeders of them are not throwing a lab and a poodle together they are breeding labradoodle to labradoodle and getting a dog to there stds.. In the US thou I would still call it a mutt as most are cross breeds and not a F2 or beyond generation
post #25 of 34
From what I've read regarding the labradoodles, they are NOT consistant enough to be a breed - still too much variables and they do shed to some degree - its no guarentee they won't.

The originators in Australia have abandoned the project cause of inconsistences. Can you show me some articles/breeders who are getting type/standard in breeding 2 labradoodles together - something very consistent?
post #26 of 34
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From what I've read regarding the labradoodles, they are NOT consistant enough to be a breed - still too much variables and they do shed to some degree - its no guarentee they won't.

The originators in Australia have abandoned the project cause of inconsistences. Can you show me some articles/breeders who are getting type/standard in breeding 2 labradoodles together - something very consistent?
well we have at least one person who can answer that .... as she has 2 young one s
KitEKats4Eva heres are Aussie and look nothing like the one s in the states ... at one pt she did put up quite a bit of info about them

yes they do shed to some degree but ALL dog s do ... my yorkie does every bath as it removes the dead hairs from her single coat

amazing what a quick google can yeild ...

http://www.laa.org.au/breeders-breed_standard.html

note it was updated in 2007 , humm that would lead one to beleive they are still perfecting it down under

looks like the US is importing some and breeding F generations past F1
http://www.labradoodleasd.com/ASD-PuppyGrow5.htm

also note the co founder of that site she allegedly co founded the breed
post #27 of 34
There's already some 150+ breeds of dogs and some 50+ breeds of cats recognised. I honestly think we don't need anymore!

I am thankful that a lot of Kennel clubs around the world are not longer breeding dogs just for beauty. Have you seen a Saluki in action? Awesome sight and to me, more beautiful than those bred for show rings!
post #28 of 34
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There's already some 150+ breeds of dogs and some 50+ breeds of cats recognised. I honestly think we don't need anymore!

I am thankful that a lot of Kennel clubs around the world are not longer breeding dogs just for beauty. Have you seen a Saluki in action? Awesome sight and to me, more beautiful than those bred for show rings!
NOT in the ring but yes I have seen one move.. beauty
post #29 of 34
I really think we have enough dogs in the world who need good homes. We don't need "designer" dogs. Sure it's cute to say "I have a Snicker-doodle", but that is no reason to go out and drop a small fortune on one.
post #30 of 34
Come and get her while she's hot! Cocka-schnoodle for adoption at rescue!
These designer dogs are everywhere here. This is Zazzy, pulled from a high-kill shelter before her date with Mr. Needle. She's a hyperactive little cutie. Wish I could tell the BYBers where their dogs are ending up.
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