Serial child rapist suspect arrested

I agree with you completely. He may not be the typical illegal immigrant, but the fact remains that he shouldn't have been here in the first place (times 3!) to prey on our citizens and make more work for our law enforcement and courts.

It's not just terrorists that we need to protect ourselves from. Just run of the mill rapists, murders, burglars, etc. is enough proof for me to say that we need to do something proactive about this segment of the US.

On avg at 10 american are killed every day by illegals
but hey it is no big deal. they are just american, they dont have a right to life.

As opposed to the 47 people murdered every day by US citizens.

Besides which, Bruce, that statistic is rubbish. I looked up the source the last time you quoted it and it's as shaky as a one-legged drunk on a fitball.

Oh thank you for helping me calm down and not feel alone here. What the heck does citizenship have to do with criminal mentality!? This is a horrible crime that was committed, but it doesn't matter where or who it was committed on.
Even the link is extremely general, to many questions left to ask.
"Aceves is charged with 25 felony counts including kidnapping, child molestation, sexual abuse, sexual conduct with a minor, aggravated assault, burglary and trespassing."
I think Michael Jackson was charged with similar.......

So what you are saying is that if these crimes were confined within the country of his citizenship, they wouldn't be as horrifying?

I think what you meant was they wouldn't have happened in America if they weren't illegally here, but they would have still happened........

I am sorry, I read your words as these crimes would not have happened here if the illegal immigrants weren't here.................Am I correct? So basically your saying that if it happens outside of your country, you don't care, it's no concern of yours, who cares......

"If they weren't here" did you mean the crimes or the immigrants................."don't know what would have happened in his own country........" sounds like you don't care and it doesn't or wouldn't matter. Maybe I am taking your words to literally? I am not saying this is what you mean, I am asking, and if not then please explain..........

How bout we send all the illegal killers to Austrailia since it is no big deal to you.

Well then, by all means, let's let the child rapist go free.

You fail to mention the guy had been deported THREE times.

I am betting many would feel differently if THEIR child had been raped, murdered, run down and killed by a drunk driver or any of a myriad of horrible things.
And yes, the crime is the same even if the criminal is American but these crimes SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING, BECAUSE THE ILLEGALS COMMITING THEM SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. If people can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT...THE CRIME IS THE PROBLEM, NOT WHERE IT IS COMMITTED. To think that this wouldn't have happened if he wasn't illegally in another country is ridiculous!

You can BET on the fact that if the crimes had been commited in the country of his citizenship the dude would have been executed on the spot.

I fail to see why people think it is so insulting when it is made known that crimes are commited by illegal aliens.

I don't want illegals coming into MY country committing ANY crimes, is that plain enough?
I am for harsher laws protecting our most vulnerable. I am sickened to the core by liberal judges that giver slap-on-the-wrist sentences to anyone

And you know what, I don't think many of these crimes would have happened in the country of origin because many of the illegal aliens have MUCH harsher laws than we have. They come here knowing what disgusting light sentences our liberal judges give.

There seems to be a vast misunderstanding of the Mexican justice system here. If he was from northern rural Mexico, he might have done this to dozens upon dozens of children and never gotten caught. He might have been able to bribe and pay his way out of anything once he had been caught.

There is a reason people try to escape that part of the world, and men like this are only part of it.

Do y'all really believe that this man wasn't doing the exact same thing while he was in Mexico?

Serial child rapists are what they are, and they don't typically operate in fear of being caught. They don't think like that, they don't come to America thinking that if they get caught they might get a more liberal judge who will give them a different prison sentence than in Mexico (which, btw, I don't think is true necessarily).

We all agree that these are horrific crimes and this man is a monster. I 100% disagree that his legal status had a darn thing to do with it.

And it has nothing to do with a single other immigrant, legal or not. We do need better border security because of course this man would not have knowingly been let in.

How to fix that? Make it easy for honest people who aren't child rapist-murderers to come here so we can keep track of who is in our country, and then focus on catching the criminals trying to sneak in instead.

That was easy.

Made perfect sense to me!

Some people are VERY much against publicizing the fact that a person is an illegal alien when reporting about a crime. I know on Fox News, Geraldo Rivera gets really upset about it.

I suppose it is because it gets people riled up. It is bad enough when it is our own citizens committing the crimes, but when it is someone that shouldn't even be in this country (but are here because our government doesn't even bother to enforce the existing laws) it makes it even worse.

Many posters are raising the issue of keeping illegal immigrants, violent criminals or not, out of the U.S., so I have to ask: Do you truly believe that's possible, given the long border with Mexico, and the huge Atlantic and Pacific coastlines? What countries, other than perhaps North Korea or Cuba, don't have trouble with illegal migration?

Do you propose building an almost unsurmountable wall or fence, with attack dogs, land mines, armed guards ordered to shoot on sight? Such a structure divided Europe for decades, was designed to keep people confined to eastern Europe, was called the Iron Curtain, and didn't prevent all escapes. Some people still manage to escape from the horrors of North Korea, with its strong dictatorial regime.

Supposing a fail-safe barrier could be erected: How could it be financed? Are you willing to pay much, much higher taxes, and the "social/political price" of Draconian measures, to keep people out?

I really see the point of enforcing laws to prevent employers from hiring undocumented aliens, and of deporting those caught, but find some of the reactions to illegal immigrants somewhat unrealistic. If you're against an amnesty, so be it, but are you really willing to pay all the costs involved? Are you willing to go through the red tape and costs involved in issuing every U.S. citizen and legal alien a biometric national ID, as that will be necessary? And of submitting to ID checks everywhere?

Is it worth it? If there are an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., and an estimated 300 million inhabitants, that works out to what, 4% of the inhabitants?

I know I'm opening a , but you can't have it both ways. If you want to have stricter governmental controls, you have to accept higher taxes. If you refuse to pay higher taxes to finance such programs, you'll just have to put up with the consequences. Tjjaaa! Realpolitik at its best.

So, because it is hard, we should just give it up and not try? Maybe just throw open the borders and let the chips fall where they may.

are we ever going to fully stop illegals from coming over? Nope of course not.
But you can put better controls on it,

put army to work, put the navy to work, that is what they are there for.
i like the idea, lets send all the one coming over to Australia. Sounds like a good plan to me.

vs what Al gore facts you many not like the source, but that does make in invailed. Besides, thanks again for proving its no big deal when americans get killed or hurt. Its all good.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. I said `it doesn't matter if Americans are hurt or killed'. In fact, if I try, I can probably go back to my post and find where I said exactly that. Just a second..... looking..... looking.

Now, that's funny. What's going on? It appears, in fact, that I never said that! Surprise, surprise.

It's a bit lame (and more than a little desperate) to bring up Gore here to defend your own questionable statistics, Bruce. I am not in the habit of quoting Mr Gore's statistics on any topic - including the topic of global warming.

It's not about liking the source, it's about whether or not it is a reliable source. I know you like to believe whatever supports your extreme and narrow views, and to be frank, whatever floats your boat is fine with me. You might be very happy to go through life ignorant and closed-minded. That's also your prerogative.

But if you want people to believe these things as facts, you need a reliable and credible source. Don't bother responding - it's likely that whatever you say will have nothing whatsoever to do with what I've posted anyway. And that's more than a little boring.