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post #1 of 16
1/11/08 at 10:18am
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They were separated at birth and then found each other. However, I don't think that this is what their birth mother had in mind when she had them.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world...ain-twins.html

Now, with the amount of in-vetro babies that are out there now do you think that we are going to have to do DNA testing before marriage?
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post #2 of 16
1/11/08 at 10:21am
That may very well be the case. Since so many eggs out there can be "born", you just may need the DNA before you marry to be sure you are not twins, triplets, or related.

Sad story, but if the couple doesn't have kids (make it permanent) then I don't see the harm in them marrying each other.
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post #3 of 16
1/11/08 at 10:23am
Wow, that is a bizarre situation. How tragic for the couple involved. I can't even begin to imagine that.
I think all twins should be told they're twins, even if just for the sake of knowing that, even though apparently separation at birth doesn't happen these days.
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post #4 of 16
1/11/08 at 10:35am
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The only thing I'm unclear on is that do most in-vetro babies know that they are invetro-babies?

If I knew, I'd get DNA testing done before marriage just to be sure. Other wise.... it could be.... well.... gross. (Sorry, that's the only way I can describe it.)
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post #5 of 16
1/11/08 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Sad story, but if the couple doesn't have kids (make it permanent) then I don't see the harm in them marrying each other.
I agree. It's not like they are "really" brother and sister. They didn't grow up together. They didn't know each other until the happened to meet and fall in love.

The risk of birth defects to offspring is high, so if they didn't have kids, they should be allowed to remain married if they chose to do so. It taks more than genetics to be a family...at least that's what we tell those who are adopted.. it's being there and involved that really matters, not the DNA.
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post #6 of 16
1/12/08 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by lookingglass View Post
The only thing I'm unclear on is that do most in-vetro babies know that they are invetro-babies?

If I knew, I'd get DNA testing done before marriage just to be sure. Other wise.... it could be.... well.... gross. (Sorry, that's the only way I can describe it.)
I Don't think so...and yes I agree...If I found out that I was really married to my brother and had "confirmed" the marriage, well that would just be awkward all around IMO.

I'm surprised that bloodwork before marriage has kind of taken a backburner.
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post #7 of 16
1/12/08 at 10:14am
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I'm surprised that bloodwork before marriage has kind of taken a backburner.
Bloodwork before marriage was never about DNA testing. The test used to be required to ensure that you and your betrothed were free of venereal disease, chiefly syphilis. In addition to that it also tested for blood type and Rh Factor.

If you are an Rh-negative female and your husband is Rh-positive, as revealed by your premarital blood test, you run the risk of having an Rh-positive child. Which means that you would produce antibodies against your own child's blood. If you are planning to have children it is important to know if you are Rh-positive or negative so the proper precautions may be taken
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post #8 of 16
1/12/08 at 6:49pm
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Bloodwork before marriage was never about DNA testing. The test used to be required to ensure that you and your betrothed were free of venereal disease, chiefly syphilis. In addition to that it also tested for blood type and Rh Factor.

If you are an Rh-negative female and your husband is Rh-positive, as revealed by your premarital blood test, you run the risk of having an Rh-positive child. Which means that you would produce antibodies against your own child's blood. If you are planning to have children it is important to know if you are Rh-positive or negative so the proper precautions may be taken
I'm living proof of that danger. :/ I'm the third child and my mom was RH-, my dad RH+. All three of us have my dad's blood type. My mom supposedly had the shot to prevent danger after my oldest brother was born, but not after my other brother was born. I was an "oops" baby. I had to have two blood transfusions shortly after my birth.

Those transfusions led to other possible health issues, mainly HIVS or AIDS, but luckily all my tests came back negative in 1987.

But, for the topic, I think it's their choice whether they should stay together or not. Personally, I think I would make the same choice, as it just seems...icky to me.
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post #9 of 16
1/12/08 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
Bloodwork before marriage was never about DNA testing. The test used to be required to ensure that you and your betrothed were free of venereal disease, chiefly syphilis. In addition to that it also tested for blood type and Rh Factor.

If you are an Rh-negative female and your husband is Rh-positive, as revealed by your premarital blood test, you run the risk of having an Rh-positive child. Which means that you would produce antibodies against your own child's blood. If you are planning to have children it is important to know if you are Rh-positive or negative so the proper precautions may be taken
Huh...I was always told it was to prevent incest...
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post #10 of 16
1/12/08 at 7:20pm
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Huh...I was always told it was to prevent incest...
Nope. Initially it was to prevent syphilis from becoming an epidemic, and later when the dangers of Rh factor was discovered, it was added to the test.

They no longer require premarrital bloodwork in many places because of the low incidence of syphilis that the expense wasn't justifiable anymore.
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post #11 of 16
1/12/08 at 7:24pm
I'm sorry but what is RH factor and what does it do/affect?
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post #12 of 16
1/12/08 at 7:32pm
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I'm sorry but what is RH factor and what does it do/affect?
Here you go. This link explains it pretty well and in plain English without lots of technical terms.

http://www.fi.edu/learn/heart/blood/rh.html


Here is more information on how it relates to pregnancy:

http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/pre...gnancy/rh.html

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post #13 of 16
1/12/08 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
Here you go. This link explains it pretty well and in plain English without lots of technical terms.

http://www.fi.edu/learn/heart/blood/rh.html


Here is more information on how it relates to pregnancy:

http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/pre...gnancy/rh.html

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Thank you!

The second link explained it better and answered questions that I had after reading the first one.

The link below is from 2004. I think there were only seven states on the list that required blood tests. Some may have changed since then, though.

http://www.coolnurse.com/marriage_laws2.htm

I just looked up marriage laws for Ohio and blood tests aren't required. To be honest, with the threat of AIDS and other HIVs I'm surprised that most states don't require it. Is it required in Canada?
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post #14 of 16
1/12/08 at 8:59pm
No. There is no requirement for premarrital bloodwork or medical certificates in order to obtain a Marriage License in Canada.

The only thing you need is that at least one party to the proposed marriage must apply in person. However, the application must be signed by both applicants. The court may require proof of age of either party. (if only one party is applying, he/she must bring proof of age of the other party.) All minors must submit proof of age.
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post #15 of 16
1/12/08 at 9:06pm
I never knew about Rh until I went to my first trimester appointment the other day. It was one of the first things they asked me and was in one of the blood tests my GP had ordered. Fortunately it won't be an issue as I am Rh positive - but apparently it's really a very serious problem.
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post #16 of 16
1/13/08 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
I never knew about Rh until I went to my first trimester appointment the other day. It was one of the first things they asked me and was in one of the blood tests my GP had ordered. Fortunately it won't be an issue as I am Rh positive - but apparently it's really a very serious problem.
Same here. I had it done even though I already know I am Rh+ they wanted the bloodwork anyway. I knew about the dangers, though, as my brother is Rh+ and his first ex-wife is Rh-. She had to get shots on a regular basis with both of the kids.

As for the topic, it's sad that it happend and probably freaked them both out when they found out. I too think that as long as they don't have children they can stay together if they want.
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