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Hillary in Las Vegas & on immigration

post #1 of 69
1/11/08 at 8:06am
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http://www.lvrj.com/news/13702902.html


"No woman is illegal" quote, unquote.
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post #2 of 69
1/11/08 at 8:28am
Oh boy....Hillary If she becomes president, I am moving out of this country.
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post #3 of 69
1/11/08 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat View Post
Oh boy....Hillary If she becomes president, I am moving out of this country.


Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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post #4 of 69
1/11/08 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat View Post
Oh boy....Hillary If she becomes president, I am moving out of this country.
we still have a country ? lol
i agree i will be moving out also.. oh wait, i may be doing that anyway
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post #5 of 69
1/11/08 at 10:03am
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we still have a country ? lol
I guess we do, but it isn't what I remember. You know, when we once were the land of the free
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post #6 of 69
1/11/08 at 10:12am
My question is WHERE is the money coming from to "support" all these programs that the Demos want to "GIVE" to everyone?????
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post #7 of 69
1/11/08 at 10:24am
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I guess we do, but it isn't what I remember. You know, when we once were the land of the free
hmm i am kind to young to remember that part, But it seems like it was such a good idea.

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
My question is WHERE is the money coming from to "support" all these programs that the Demos want to "GIVE" to everyone?????

why from your bank account. After all hillary knows how to spend your money better then you do.. So why should you be allowed to have it.

She already said, "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." now if that not love what is

when someone in goverment makes that kinda of statment,
it scares me, but hey i guess i am not normal
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post #8 of 69
1/11/08 at 10:32am
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Well, no one will be able to say Hillary didn't warn them, will they?
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post #9 of 69
1/11/08 at 10:34am
Not coming out of my pocket. I'll just "drop out" and go live in the mountains....
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post #10 of 69
1/11/08 at 11:02am
Cause god forbid a government have compassion and actually take care of its citizens.

How dare they tax you to keep other people from dying in the streets!
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post #11 of 69
1/11/08 at 11:31am
She's not the brightest crayon in the box

Does she not see the problem that this country is already facing with illegal immigration,...better yet she should have to live around a bunch of illegal immigrants like i used to when they took over my old neighborhood and brought crime, all night parties and blaring music, and gangs with them. It is not fair that us LEGAL citizens should have to put up with people who come to this country illegally. No way she or anyone else who supports illegal immigrants will get my vote.

I have no problem with people comming to this country whatsoever- but do it legally!
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post #12 of 69
1/11/08 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
She already said, "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." now if that not love what is

when someone in goverment makes that kinda of statment,
it scares me, but hey i guess i am not normal
Great, just what we need. It's bad enough that I already have the goverment trying to take things away, Hillary wants to do more of that? Hillary for president...NOT!!
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post #13 of 69
1/11/08 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Cause god forbid a government have compassion and actually take care of its citizens.

How dare they tax you to keep other people from dying in the streets!

Which people? The ones here illegally???? Let them go back to Mexico and die in the streets there...

The government does not exist to hold the hands of its citizens. The more power we give them, the more they are entitled to take from us. One person takes a handout, someone else has to pay extra taxes. How about the person needing a handout get out and get a job and pay for their own food instead of having our tax dollars go into a fund so they can eat better grades of food than us working folks do??? What a novel idea!
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post #14 of 69
1/11/08 at 12:08pm
How about THIS idea:

All the candidates put all the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of campaign fund dollars into a pool which is then DONATED to the United States to assist in paying for things that we NEED, like, oh, updated infrastructure? Educational programs? Social security?

Oh, but no - it is better spent on stupid broadcast media campaigns and hotel rooms and printing and postage costs so they can all promote their own personal agendas.
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post #15 of 69
1/11/08 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
The government does not exist to hold the hands of its citizens. The more power we give them, the more they are entitled to take from us. One person takes a handout, someone else has to pay extra taxes. How about the person needing a handout get out and get a job and pay for their own food instead of having our tax dollars go into a fund so they can eat better grades of food than us working folks do??? What a novel idea!
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post #16 of 69
1/11/08 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
http://www.lvrj.com/news/13702902.html


"No woman is illegal" quote, unquote.
And just think! While she's out and about spouting out stupid things, she's still collecting her full government salary, benefits and pension.
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post #17 of 69
1/11/08 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Cause god forbid a government have compassion and actually take care of its citizens.

How dare they tax you to keep other people from dying in the streets!

They AREN'T citizens, that is the point. Even if they were, people have a responsibility to take care of THEMSELVES.

Good grief, all I hear is whining about Big brother, but we sure want Big Brother to take care of our every need don't we?

THERE IS NO FREE RIDE, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. Then anything you DO get will be a windfall.

If you want to live in under Socialism, go live in France or somewhere. (General "you")
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post #18 of 69
1/11/08 at 4:46pm
It's the Republican presidents that have driven up the national debt and undermined the economy. The debt went up under Reagan and the first Bush.

Clinton balanced the budget and started paying down the national debt. The economy was great under his administration.

Now the national debt has reached new and dangerous levels, the dollar is weak, the economy is tanking.

You guys need to think a little more about what really happens under Republican presidents and Democratic presidents. Don't fall for rhetoric or get distracted by non-issues.
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post #19 of 69
1/11/08 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
My question is WHERE is the money coming from to "support" all these programs that the Demos want to "GIVE" to everyone?????
WHERE do you think the money is coming from to support your trillion dollar war? God?
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post #20 of 69
1/11/08 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
http://www.lvrj.com/news/13702902.html


"No woman is illegal" quote, unquote.
Notice how this quote is not a complete sentence, anyone else stop to wonder what the complete sentence was?

This entire article is journalistic garbage. I would be saying that no matter which candidate was being covered.

If this type of reporting is what people are using to make decisions on who to vote for then this country is stupider than I thought possible.

If anyone actually read the entire article Clinton spent the day addressing the dire straights our economy is in, she was not addressing Illegal immigration. That quote was the beginning of a reply to someone who "shouted through an opening in a wall." Sounds like a heckler to me.

This reporter obviously is biased, making sure to note the broker spoke in broken English. What does the broken English have to do with the topic of the collapsing Real Estate Market?

FYI... I personally believe the illegals are criminals and should be sent back home to their native countries. please note the word illegal, not immigrants.

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
My question is WHERE is the money coming from to "support" all these programs that the Demos want to "GIVE" to everyone?????
Where is the 275 million per DAY for the war in Iraq coming from? Why are we paying for a war that gives absolutely NOTHING to the people of this country. A war that our President LIED about the reasons for starting.

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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
How about THIS idea:

All the candidates put all the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of campaign fund dollars into a pool which is then DONATED to the United States to assist in paying for things that we NEED, like, oh, updated infrastructure? Educational programs? Social security?

Oh, but no - it is better spent on stupid broadcast media campaigns and hotel rooms and printing and postage costs so they can all promote their own personal agendas.
With you on this one! My mom and I were just talking about this the other day.

Katie, your right about the recent Republicans being the big spenders and increasing Governmental control. I too wonder why die hard Republicans cannot see this.
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post #21 of 69
1/11/08 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Cause god forbid a government have compassion and actually take care of its citizens.

How dare they tax you to keep other people from dying in the streets!
i dont want my tax dollars going for illegeals, so yea, let them die in the streets.

i dont normally say stuff like this, but wait until the amount of money you are being taxed makes a difference in your how you live. Or where people you know are having to move cause they cant pay there tax anymore.

the goverments job is not to hold your hand.
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post #22 of 69
1/11/08 at 5:56pm
No it isn't, you're right. Part of it's job, though, is to provide adequately for its people.

I am actually looking forward to seeing how your taxes make a difference in how you live. Most likely it will improve your standard of living, because your taxes will be put to things that matter for the people of your country, and improving their lives, and not towards a pointless war.

If you want anarchy, no government, no taxes, then you need to accept that one of the tenets of anarchy is to open the borders and let people in without regulation or control. Somehow I think those of you who whinge and whine about the government having any control of anything wouldn't actually like that very much.

So what it's really down to is `let the government control the things that make my life feel comfortable, and keep them out of everything that might stop me from doing whatever I please. Forget about the good of the nation, what about the good of ME???' Sounds an awful lot like wanting to have your cake and eat it, too.
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post #23 of 69
1/11/08 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
WHERE do you think the money is coming from to support your trillion dollar war? God?
My thoughts exactly. Where is the money coming from now that we have already BORROWED more than once to fund this war among other debts? We are already in debt and it will only get worse unless someone actually starts to pay back what we owe instead of borrowing more.

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Originally Posted by kittymonsters View Post
Where is the 275 million per DAY for the war in Iraq coming from? Why are we paying for a war that gives absolutely NOTHING to the people of this country. A war that our President LIED about the reasons for starting.
Good Point....

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Katie, your right about the recent Republicans being the big spenders and increasing Governmental control. I too wonder why die hard Republicans cannot see this.
Sometimes people can't see the obvious.

As far as illegals go, I have no sympathy for them. If they want to live here I think they should do it legally. Like every other foreigner. Living in Texas we are overrun with mexicans and that is the reason why we have as many problems as we do. Often times once they are here they show no interest in getting an education or trying to better themselves. So if they are here illegally, whether they have family born here or not, I say send them back. They knew the consequences of their actions when they crossed the border and have no one to blame but themselves.
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post #24 of 69
1/11/08 at 6:38pm
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Higher taxes do NOT stimulate the economy. I can't believe anyone would think they do.
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post #25 of 69
1/11/08 at 6:50pm
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Higher taxes do NOT stimulate the economy. I can't believe anyone would think they do.
Lower taxes do not stimulate the economy, either. Combined with government spending for wars, etc. they do drive up the national debt. Since Reagan it's Republican administrations that have left us with the highest debts and worst economies.
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post #26 of 69
1/11/08 at 6:56pm
it always seems that higher taxes hit the middle class at a higher % of there income VS taxing the rich,, oh yea, i forgot, to the dem the middle class are rich.
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post #27 of 69
1/11/08 at 6:59pm
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Yes, lower taxes do stimulate the economy. People have more money and they spend more. It is people spending money that DOES stimulate the economy.
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post #28 of 69
1/11/08 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Yes, lower taxes do stimulate the economy. People have more money and they spend more. It is people spending money that DOES stimulate the economy.

Not if it's the rich that have lower taxes. That may be the theory but it has not worked out in practice. The rich simply invest the money on Wall Street, not helping anybody. That's why it's called "Voodoo economics."
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post #29 of 69
1/11/08 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by katie=^..^= View Post
You guys need to think a little more about what really happens under Republican presidents and Democratic presidents. Don't fall for rhetoric or get distracted by non-issues.
i thought the issues was, the democratic spending my money, to support people that are not supped to be here in the first place. nor am i willing to shell out my money on every failed social program they can come up just so they can say see we care. most of those programs fail, just waste money.
I need my money more then they do.
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post #30 of 69
1/11/08 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
it always seems that higher taxes hit the middle class at a higher % of there income VS taxing the rich,, oh yea, i forgot, to the dem the middle class are rich.
What do YOU consider middle-class?
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