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Benazir Bhutto may be dead

post #1 of 19
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I just checked Cnn and I'm listening to Npr and both have unconfirmed reports that Bhutto was killed at a rally.

Goodness I hope this isn't true.
post #2 of 19
It was just on a special report on GMA.

Here's a couple links:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...rif/index.html
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Internatio...4055506&page=1

Things are unravelling in Pakistan. Let's not forget they have nukes.
post #3 of 19
I can't say that I'm surprised.

Live coverage http://news.sky.com/skynews/livenewsevents
post #4 of 19
Updates say that she was shot just before the bomb went off. The country is exploding in chaos. A perfect excuse for Musharraf to suspend elections and their constitution and impose martial law (yet again.)
post #5 of 19
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Updates say that she was shot just before the bomb went off. The country is exploding in chaos. A perfect excuse for Musharraf to suspend elections and their constitution and impose martial law (yet again.)
NPR just confirmed it.

I give the current president three hours before he suspends elections.
post #6 of 19
Someone care to explain who Benazir Bhutto was?

I know the name, but I can't remember anything else!
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Someone care to explain who Benazir Bhutto was?

I know the name, but I can't remember anything else!
Here's her Obituary: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/28/wo...ttocnd.html?hp
post #8 of 19
Although what has happened to her is horrible and should never happen to anyone we should be careful not to turn her into a Saint. She was a corrupt, incompetent leader and it was that corruption and incompetence that allowed the military to take over this last time. Her father was also a corrupt leader who started their nuclear program when he was a minister in a civilian government. She was constantly casting herself as a victimized perfect person. She said she went into self-imposed exile for the sake of her country, the truth is she left to avoid going to prison. Her husband was imprisoned for 8 eight years. This has been the history of democracy in Pakistan. Their civilian leaders have all been like her from the elite of the country and because they don't have the mature institutions that need to go with a democratic government democracy is unable to survive these leaders.
post #9 of 19
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Although what has happened to her is horrible and should never happen to anyone we should be careful not to turn her into a Saint. She was a corrupt, incompetent leader and it was that corruption and incompetence that allowed the military to take over this last time. Her father was also a corrupt leader who started their nuclear program when he was a minister in a civilian government. She was constantly casting herself as a victimized perfect person. She said she went into self-imposed exile for the sake of her country, the truth is she left to avoid going to prison. Her husband was imprisoned for 8 eight years. This has been the history of democracy in Pakistan. Their civilian leaders have all been like her from the elite of the country and because they don't have the mature institutions that need to go with a democratic government democracy is unable to survive these leaders.
I agree with you, but this was the worst possible way to make that point. The people who supported her will turn her into the very saint that she shouldn't be. She is going to become a martyr.
post #10 of 19
I can not even begin to express how sad i am over this What sad, sad news today. I have been following her story and her work for several years now- learning as much as i can about her. Yes, she was not perfect and did not always make the best choices, and no, i do not agree with some of the thing she did- BUT she was one of the best leaders that country has ever known -and now instability is sure to follow as a result of this tradgedy. I don't think people should make her out to be a saint, as i don't believe anyone is perfect (God aside), but i think her hard work and the things she accomplished should not be forgotten.Her passing is soo sad. I hope she may finally have some peace now in her passing.

I am really wondering about who is going to step up now and emerge as one of the leaders in her party. When she was leader- she ran it so that nobody really had a chance to rise up against her....so i'm wondering now that she's gone- what will happen I guess we have to wait and see. And with the elections that were approaching...there's no telling now what will happen. The instability and chaos her death will bring on will likely make Pakistan even more weak and suspetable (sp?) to al Quida/etc. I hope that's not the case, but i'm afraid it is going to be so unless something drastic happens.

Irony of it all- she was riding in a bullet proof car. Had she only stayed inside of the car instead of waving out of the sun roof- who knows, maybe she'd still be around. My prayers go out to her family/supporters at the moment that are mourning for her. She was not perfect, she was not always right, but was a brave,strong woman who stood up for what she believed in- and i admire her for that.
post #11 of 19
I saw on the news that someone in Pakistan was assassinated. I don't know who or for what reason. I didn't pay much attention.
post #12 of 19
The last I heard, she died from hitting her head on the car sun roof. She wasn't killed by the gun shots.
post #13 of 19
I've hit my head pretty hard a bunch of times and I'm not dead. She would have had to hit her head REALLY hard. I think that must be a rumor.
post #14 of 19
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...949742788.html

"The video footage, obtained by Britain's Channel 4, shows a man firing a handgun at Bhutto from close range as she stands up in an open-topped vehicle. Her hair and shawl then move upward, suggesting she may have been shot. She then falls into the vehicle just before an explosion rocks the car.

The government has insisted Bhutto was not hit by any of the bullets and died after the force of the blast slammed her head against the sunroof.

Bhutto's family and supporters say she died from gunshot wounds to her head and neck."
post #15 of 19
wow, no one has blamed bush yet.
post #16 of 19
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wow, no one has blamed bush yet.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...tionid=3510203

Here ya go, Bruce.
post #17 of 19
haha, thanks. i am sure some nut case would do that.
I feel much better now.
post #18 of 19
I don't think we will ever know the real story. Pakistan has a history of rulers being killed or dying under mysterious circumstances and the real story is never publicly known. This goes back to the founding of the country so it is a massive problem within that country and not something that anyone outside of the country has caused or contributed to. A lot of people will blame their having been colonized but India doesn't seem to have anywhere near the problems that Pakistan does. Of course I think Pakistan's narrow focus of hatred and resentment of India has at least contributed to their many problems.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by catcaregiver View Post
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...949742788.html

"The video footage, obtained by Britain's Channel 4, shows a man firing a handgun at Bhutto from close range as she stands up in an open-topped vehicle. Her hair and shawl then move upward, suggesting she may have been shot. She then falls into the vehicle just before an explosion rocks the car.

The government has insisted Bhutto was not hit by any of the bullets and died after the force of the blast slammed her head against the sunroof.

Bhutto's family and supporters say she died from gunshot wounds to her head and neck."
IMHO I think that the Pakistan government is trying to hide her assassination in an attempt to prevent her from becoming a martyr.
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