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Mother Forces Toddler to Smoke!

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I swear! Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids!!!

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post #2 of 17
You have to go through rigorous testing to get a driver's license, but nothing of the sort to have a child. Why is it that some people are allowed to procreate?
post #3 of 17
What is she thinking
post #4 of 17
She's not thinking! IMO smoking should be illegal! If any one can honestly list any benefits from cigarette smoking, I would listen, but I can't think of any.......
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Well, there was a study done several years ago in Australia (that I worked on - doing data entry) that showed a link between smoking in pregnancy and a higher IQ in the child. But of course, such a controversial study was never released. Purely because the negatives of smoking during pregnancy outweighed any benefit so drastically that there was never any need seen to release the study. But there's one for you.

I'm glad this woman is in prison. Fancy doing such a thing - and doing for entertainment, of all things! What a horrible troll
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Well, there was a study done several years ago in Australia (that I worked on - doing data entry) that showed a link between smoking in pregnancy and a higher IQ in the child. But of course, such a controversial study was never released. Purely because the negatives of smoking during pregnancy outweighed any benefit so drastically that there was never any need seen to release the study. But there's one for you.

I'm glad this woman is in prison. Fancy doing such a thing - and doing for entertainment, of all things! What a horrible troll
I'm sorry, but that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard! It's not controversial, it's just ridiculous! It would take much longer then several years to study the mental aptitude differences of children born during cigarette smoking and non pregnancy. It sounds to me that you use to work for a tobacco company? Nothing wrong with that, I use to do surveys often, but remember what their objective is
post #7 of 17
I certainly am anti-smoking because my father died of cancer of the larynx. I have always told the kids not to smoke and neither the 21 year-old nor the 13 year-old (never too young to talk to your kids about this) do.
I do have a hard time judging a person before a trial because of what was on a Myspace post. Who knows whether that was real or not, what was going on in the mom's mind, and why are we acting as judge and jury because of what is on the Internet? Too many big brothers watching you and I am not even a lawyer.
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Regardless of people's views on smoking, it's the fact that she would treat her own daughter this way that disgusts me. I swear if there was some way of controlling who was allowed to have children I'd be all for it.
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
I'm sorry, but that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard! It's not controversial, it's just ridiculous! It would take much longer then several years to study the mental aptitude differences of children born during cigarette smoking and non pregnancy. It sounds to me that you use to work for a tobacco company? Nothing wrong with that, I use to do surveys often, but remember what their objective is
No, I did data entry for the Women's and Children's hospital in Perth, King Edward (or KEMH). It's the biggest and only specialist maternity and teaching hospital in our state. It is where I am having my baby, as I am categorised as high risk because of my psych history. All high risk pregnancies are delivered there. Here's a link to their website.

Mum's best friend is a biostatitician there. The study was on the use of drugs (all drugs - including tobacco and alcohol) during pregnancy, and the results that usage of drugs during pregnancy would have on the development of premature children after birth. This was an incidental finding - and it wouldn't take much longer than several years to glean results. I did my first IQ test at the age of four.

There were many findings from this study - which, incidentally, did happen to go on for more than several years. I was 16 at the time, and just doing data entry in my school holidays.

It wasn't a survey - it was a government-funded research study. So, whilst your patronising attitude irks a little, it doesn't bother me too much. After all, I worked on it, so I know what it was about, and what was involved. You don't
post #10 of 17
My biological mother actually did the same thing to me, but I think I was maybe two or three years older. But for me, it was a good thing, because that was the worst taste I have EVER had in my mouth, and now I refuse to even -think- about smoking anything.
post #11 of 17
I've heard of people doing that to their teenagers, too, to put them off it. It's pretty wrong, but I haven't heard of any of them videotaping it and posting it on a website for the world to see. That to me only proves she did it for attention and entertainment, nothing else.
post #12 of 17
What a horrid woman In my opinion though- people who smoke in the presence of their babies are every bit as bad though.
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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
What a horrid woman In my opinion though- people who smoke in the presence of their babies are every bit as bad though.
I agree Nikki..me and my sister were talking about this today..People that smoke in the house with their kids living in there..makes me sick.

My mom did that with us as kids..and I don't think it was right. I used to ask her "mom, would you be sad if I died from second hand smoke?"
post #14 of 17
Please lets not make this an anti-smoker thread. This is simply abusive no matter the tool she used. I am sure this isn't the first time this "mother" did something harmful to her child to entertain herself.
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Originally Posted by Trouts mom View Post
I agree Nikki..me and my sister were talking about this today..People that smoke in the house with their kids living in there..makes me sick.

My mom did that with us as kids..and I don't think it was right. I used to ask her "mom, would you be sad if I died from second hand smoke?"
My idiot step mom and father put me in the hospital when i was younger from smoking around me- i have very bad asthma and had a court order to go to their home on the weekends and one weekend i got soo ill from them blowing smoke in my face (yes the woman actually blew it in my face- she was a horrid alcoholic too...) i wound up going to the ER from it. People that smoke around their children are exposing them to second hand smoke and other toxins that kill and can cause soo many health issues- in my opinion its every bit as cruel as putting a cigarette to their mouth- it's just as deadly
post #16 of 17
Apparently smoking around babies or even the smell and residue of it on your skin and clothing if you hold a baby can lead to an increase in SIDS as well. I don't know the date on this but it's something my SIL told me after their baby was born - and basically the reason my Mum quit smoking.

I smoked about three - five cigarettes a day before I found out I was pregnant. Now that I've stopped completely, it's just incredible how much it stinks on people who smoke - even if they do it completely away from you. I've never noticed before.

The thing that I found amazing about the link to the news report on this was that the mother was arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor - not for child abuse. The police woman interviewed was saying `Well, it's illegal to buy or smoke cigarettes if you are under 18, and this girl is 2, so it's pretty serious right there'. Er, ok. It's child abuse, isn't it?????
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Apparently smoking around babies or even the smell and residue of it on your skin and clothing if you hold a baby can lead to an increase in SIDS as well. I don't know the date on this but it's something my SIL told me after their baby was born - and basically the reason my Mum quit smoking.

I smoked about three - five cigarettes a day before I found out I was pregnant. Now that I've stopped completely, it's just incredible how much it stinks on people who smoke - even if they do it completely away from you. I've never noticed before.

The thing that I found amazing about the link to the news report on this was that the mother was arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor - not for child abuse. The police woman interviewed was saying `Well, it's illegal to buy or smoke cigarettes if you are under 18, and this girl is 2, so it's pretty serious right there'. Er, ok. It's child abuse, isn't it?????
Congrats on quitting! That is going to be soo good for you and your little one on the way! I have also heard the same thing about smoking possibly leading to an increase in sids.

I wonder too why the mom was not also charged with child abuse? I wonder if the other crime they carged her with carried a stiffer penalty? Maybe that's why they did that I'm kind of curious.
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