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I agree with you Jeanie. I was watching John Doe a few months ago and what I really liked was the baddie that is part of some sort of secret agency that know who john doe is, the boss person is deaf, you could see him/her signing and what I liked about it was that for once, the deaf person isnt the victim!
Some parents, when their kids are deaf, will often wrap them up in cotton wool and identify them because of their disability. I was very lucky because I was raised to be ME, and I am independent, thanks to mum and dad.

Part of me is miffed that Christy is left out, but another part of me says that she needs to stand up for herself and get herself noticed instead of just staying in the background.
 
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Originally posted by Kiwideus
I was watching John Doe a few months ago and what I really liked was the baddie that is part of some sort of secret agency that know who john doe is, the boss person is deaf, you could see him/her signing and what I liked about it was that for once, the deaf person isnt the victim!
I just love that show - did you see this past Friday's episode with the nasty deaf man?
 

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I missed a couple of episodes. I was watching something else, and don't know who got killed last night on John Doe. Help!
 

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Well, hubby & I both agree that it was mean to put the girl who is deaf on the show ..... Someone I work with though, and I'd have to agree that she will survive quite a while through it though.
I thought it was great when the women won....
 

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I really don't care for that Rob guy with the magic 8 ball. What a jerk. I liked the guy, can't remember his name, (was it Dave?) who said they shouldn't lie to the women and was upset that the others had lied about the fish.

As for the women, I like Christy and Heidi the best!
I laughed so hard when the women kicked their butts in the challenge after all the comments the men had made about how the women would never win one, and then they lost the very first one!! HA!! Take that, Ken!!! :tounge2:
 
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Originally posted by Jeanie G.
I missed a couple of episodes. I was watching something else, and don't know who got killed last night on John Doe. Help!
It was his assistant Karen - the artist! It was so so sad!
 
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So - who do you think snuck in the granola bar? No one fessed up. I was suprised the women did not vote off Kristie. I don't like the attitude of Joanna the balck woman. I feel it was very rude of her to put her hand up in front of Kristie's face - that effectively blocks Kristie's sight and therefore her ability to read lips.
 

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I have seen a larger group of unmotivated women in my life. They need to get the shelter up, but instead they lay around complaining they don't have shelter! How many of these women were just going to rely on the men to help them out? Talk about weak-minded! No one even knows how to build fish traps? Or just taking that net to the part of the stream where they see all those fish grouped together? These women are going to starve on stupidity.
 
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One would think that if you knew you were going to be on Survivor, you would doing some reading/training of surviving! They are making no effort! They give women a bad name!
 

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i agree...
kristie does have an attitude problem too, i talked to some deaf people the other night and they said that kristie needs to get her attitude cleaned up because crying every time they go to tribal council isnt always going to work, and I do agree that joanna has an attitude problem - that hand in the face thing is rude, but not just for deaf people. it is a gesture in greece that means 'i throw dirt in your face' - how did it become adapted here?

but the women's group is the most pathetic i have ever seen though.
as for the granola bar...maybe one of the producers put it there to stir up a catfight?
to make the show interesting.
 

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Kristie said she kept working on the shelter, and no one would help her. Since the producers can edit the show any way they want to, we don't really know. She might be right about people treating her unfairly, or she might be going by past experience. I don't like her tribe's attitude, from the little we know, however.

I thought Joanna was really being belligerant, not just rude. Usually, the hand is accompanied by "Talk to the hand," which I assume means you might as well talk to a wall, because I'm not listening.

I agree with the rest of you. What's wrong with these women? They can't build a shelter because someone has to boil water and someone else has to fish....What? Twenty-four hours a day? That's worse than no excuse at all. What I saw was a bunch of women lying around. Come on, women!
 
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The men may be chauvinists, but at leat they are working! BTW - I really like Dave - the rocket scientist!
 

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Kellye I had that exact same thought. That perhaps a camera man was filming the contents of the box and the bar slipped out of his pocket and fell in, or it was a plant put there to arouse suspicion. All the women looked horrified when it was discovered, and no one looked guilty.
 

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I wouldn't be so fast to put Kristie down, the magic of editing by the producers can change everything! I thought she was just trying to be proactive, and everyone else was just lying around complaining.


It's embarrasing watching these women! Hello people?! Shelter, food, water. Get into 3 groups....now go! Not to hard, it's like they have never seen Survivor before!

Ick!

 

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Christy is my favourite of the girls tribe. i think she's sweet, mature, intelligent, kind - everything the rest of them seem to be lacking. i can't believe how Joanna treated her, i was enraged ! how rude and angry she was, i thought she was going to punch her, which would have been almost as bad as putting her hand in her face. i was stunned! complete over-reaction, and NO communication skills. how can an older, religious woman act so childish and mean?

my god, it was frustrating to watch !

i was rooting for the women in the beginning, but now, i am feeling incredibly embarrased and i'm floored by their behaviour, and lack of unity & effort.

if i were going to be on Survivor, i would have researched, and trained for what i would be up against. i'd at least know how to build a fire!!
and fish!


i mean, what is going on? i wish they didn't edit so much, we don't get to see nearly enough of what really goes on.
 

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i agree with you blue - but what exactly does that talk to the hand mean? we dont use that in NZ and why do they use it so much here?
Christy is the one I am rooting for, probably because i am deaf myself, but if i was going there, I would research as much as I can because with the amazon, theres gotta be a lot more work to do than in all the other survivor locations!
but then again, put 8 women with pms in a group and what do you get?
 

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putting your hand in someone's face is basically like saying, "I don't care what you have to say, I've already decided I'm right and you're wrong" -- y'know, along those lines. It's just so rude and immature. The talk to the hand thing is just an ignorant gesture. I would never use it.

I'm just blown away by the behaviour I keep seeing.
 
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