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post #61 of 84
Lol! Yes. Cindy loves me for it
post #62 of 84
Yes, I do.

I have to say that I will do as I did in the last election, I will just pray every day that the best person for the job wins the election.
post #63 of 84
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Yes, I do.

I have to say that I will do as I did in the last election, I will just pray every day that the best person for the job wins the election.
Gosh, I hope your prayers work better this time.
post #64 of 84
If I decide to vote for him, it's because I think he'll be a good President and NOT because Oprah tells me to vote for him. And WHITE CAT LOVER, it's nice to meet another Oprah hater!
post #65 of 84
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I think that the fact that Obama has, say...a little less experience in Washington is a plus for him. To me, it means he's not as tainted and corrupt as the rest of those running for office. I am very much PRO Obama. I would like to see him as President. It would be nice to see someone in office who isn't a crook or at least isn't in the crooks pockets for a change. I can't stand, Hillary. I don't trust her, and I don't think she's genuine. I've heard Bill Clinton is a member of the Masons, which means that the Masons would be running the country, via Bill.

That being said, I do find Oprah at bit annoying as she campaigns for him. She does walk out there on stage like she's GOT THE POWER to make or break him. However, he would be a fool not to accept her endorsement.
Just because Bill might or might not be a member of the free & accepted masons, has zilch to do with anything. It's a boys' club, no women allowed in the first place, and for the most part all it is is a networking thing. Like a frat for grown-ups. Really, I have to laugh when I hear these freemason conspiracy theories. Powerful people like to hang out together, and help out their friends, and just because they put on silly little hats and bear skins doesn't mean its anything to fear. There are already so many secret little clubs in DC, I hardly think that her husband being a freemason is a drop in the bucket. Maybe she's a Eastern Star... Oh! She'll have the secret recipe for the best punkin pie.

All I have to say about Oprah is, man, that woman can sell books. Every book she mentions ends up on the bestsellers. That kind of sway on public opinion, she might have thought it best to keep her mouth shut, but hey, everyone is free to support whoever they want.
post #66 of 84
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Gosh, I hope your prayers work better this time.

My prayers worked just fine. I honestly believe if Kerry had been POTUS when 9-11 happened it would have been swept under the rug and who knows what would have continued to happen.

But, we will never know now, will we.
post #67 of 84
I don't think the Masons are bad, are they?
post #68 of 84
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I don't think the Masons are bad, are they?
There have always been all sorts of "stories" circulating about them.

My step-grandfather was a Mason, and my (maternal) grandmother a member of Eastern Star. I transferred to a Roman Catholic school after 9th grade, and my sister followed two years later. Our grandparents used to always warn us not to say where we attended school around their friends from those groups, and never to just drop by with our boyfriends (mine was Puerto Rican, and my sister's African-American) . We had to call first, to make sure none of their friends were there. They both almost had heart attacks when my sister married a Jew.

That always made me wonder whether those organizations were more or less in the "John Birch" or "KKK" camp. Maybe not, but it was pretty strange.
post #69 of 84
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There have always been all sorts of "stories" circulating about them.

My step-grandfather was a Mason, and my (maternal) grandmother a member of Eastern Star. I transferred to a Roman Catholic school after 9th grade, and my sister followed two years later. Our grandparents used to always warn us not to say where we attended school around their friends from those groups, and never to just drop by with our boyfriends (mine was Puerto Rican, and my sister's African-American) . We had to call first, to make sure none of their friends were there. They both almost had heart attacks when my sister married a Jew.

That always made me wonder whether those organizations were more or less in the "John Birch" or "KKK" camp. Maybe not, but it was pretty strange.
There are plenty of black masons-- mostly they're Christian, but its outright a Christian organization. The coinciding of a lot of members also being in the KKK or whatever else has a lot more to do with how many of our grandparents or greatgrandparents would have been racist anyway. Seems to me a majority of people in some areas were publicly and unashamedly racist until not so long ago, so it shouldn't be surprising that a lot of people's relatives would be both.
post #70 of 84
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Yes, I do.

I have to say that I will do as I did in the last election, I will just pray every day that the best person for the job wins the election.
Well that would leave out hillary and bam-bam, so that would be a good thing, Hmm and Dennis Kucinich, i am not sure he is even from earth.
post #71 of 84
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I don't think the Masons are bad, are they?
lol only it you watch to many movies,
When ever people get together with a common skill,
people freak out and yell ..they been doing it since ,, well since people with skills got together
post #72 of 84
I personally will never vote for someone who can not even salute the flag of the country he is wanting to run. . . I dont care who he has backing his candidacy. Be it Oprah, Jesus, or the Queen of England. . .
post #73 of 84
When didn't he salute the flag? I saw some photo somewhere about that - but wasn't it common consensus that that was photoshopped? Unless there's another time...
post #74 of 84
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When didn't he salute the flag? I saw some photo somewhere about that - but wasn't it common consensus that that was photoshopped? Unless there's another time...
I saw it at the debates ... during the pledge he had is hands in his groin region and was NOT looking up .... TOO me that is DISTURBING

Truthfully after the last few administrations I would WELCOME a LDS
post #75 of 84
Lol! Unless it was Warren Jeffs....
post #76 of 84
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Lol! Unless it was Warren Jeffs....
well he would make it more interesting for speeches since he is in jail
post #77 of 84
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Lol! Unless it was Warren Jeffs....
You stinker, Warren Jeff is NOT LDS.

Yes, it is true that Obama did not salute the flag. Pretty darn disrespectful for one who would be POTUS, if you ask me.
post #78 of 84
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
I saw it at the debates ... during the pledge he had is hands in his groin region and was NOT looking up .... TOO me that is DISTURBING

Truthfully after the last few administrations I would WELCOME a LDS
It wasn't the pledge, it was the national anthem. Really, I don't think he was trying to not put his hand on his heart (civilians don't salute the flag) and has said that he just got mixed up about whether you did so during the anthem as well.

Which he should know, of course, but as he didn't go to school in the US and so didn't have it drilled into him... I think it's forgivable.
post #79 of 84
I put my hand over my heart during the National Anthem and the Pledge of Allegiance.

I think that one that wants to be POTUS should know things like that.

But it isn't a reason to not vote for a person IMO.
post #80 of 84
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It wasn't the pledge, it was the national anthem. Really, I don't think he was trying to not put his hand on his heart (civilians don't salute the flag) and has said that he just got mixed up about whether you did so during the anthem as well.

Which he should know, of course, but as he didn't go to school in the US and so didn't have it drilled into him... I think it's forgivable.
HE is running for PRESIDENT ... it aint joe blow who grew up in another land being unsure ... UMMM I dont know what school you went to but I have never mixed up a hand on heart for a salute... ie I am former military
post #81 of 84
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You stinker, Warren Jeff is NOT LDS.

Yes, it is true that Obama did not salute the flag. Pretty darn disrespectful for one who would be POTUS, if you ask me.
Well - in Australia if you saluted the flag people would think you were an idiot. Lol. But I understand how it is drummed into American children and that it really is a huge sign of respect, and I do agree that he should have known that. Even if he did go to school outside of the US. If you want to be President, it's something you should know. But I don't think it's a deal breaker.

As for Warren Jeffs - no, of course he isn't. But he is FLDS.
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post #83 of 84
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He is a FIRST term Senator, that is his ONLY experience. Do you really call that enough experience to be President?
It does seem to be those who have been a governor of a state, which is experience in the executive branch, have the experience of running a government in that position.
and I am so sick of hearing about Obama being black. I know that some people think that's splitting hairs, but with racism what it is, skin color DOES make a difference far too often. I'm fairer than my sister, and people do react accordingly; just a fact of life, when going through life as "brown" or " a person of color".
post #84 of 84
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Gosh, I hope your prayers work better this time.
too funny!!!!!
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