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post #31 of 46
If XP is still available until sometime in 2008, I wonder if you can't buy a copy (in fact I think there may be educational discounts) to install on whatever new computer you buy?

I have to admit, having a DH who builds his own, I haven't had to deal with this too much, but when we built my sister's computer less than a year ago, she bought a copy of XP and DH installed it.
post #32 of 46
You could look at off lease computers, it won't be new but will be fine for what you are using it for and will have XP instead of Vista, and usually has full versions of word processing software rather than the usual MS 3 month and it wont work stuff
post #33 of 46
First off, never, EVER, buy a dell. It's the worst computer on the market. What you could do is go to a local computer shop and they would be able to tell you where you can get a copy of XP or you could just download a torrent of the XP operating system.
post #34 of 46
If I had to choose a big name brand, I would buy a Gateway. We had a Gateway that lasted almost 7 yrs before we finally had to call it quits and build something. It didn't stop working, was just too slow for what Mike wanted. That said, our Gateway was completely customized and cost $$$ when we bought it. We upgraded everything, even the tower so we could add to it. Mike's first computer was a Gateway too.

We have a Dell laptop that was given to us, it's good for what I use it for--internet, photos, MS Word. Mike needs a gaming machine because he likes video games (and I have to admit I like the occasional game too). Our gaming machine isn't even the fastest you can make, and it smokes our laptop.

Do you have any friends or acquaintences who build computers? That would probably be best. We had to uninstall a LOT of software off of the Dell we have. My sister and my Mom both have Dell desktop systems and they came so loaded with extra software. You really have to dedicate a day to uninstalling.

I would say if you can't get anything locally, see about buying a Linux system and buy a copy of XP from somewhere.
post #35 of 46
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Originally Posted by TigerOnTheProwl View Post
First off, never, EVER, buy a dell. It's the worst computer on the market. What you could do is go to a local computer shop and they would be able to tell you where you can get a copy of XP or you could just download a torrent of the XP operating system.
I would just like to interject here: I have a Dell Dimension 4700 with XP, and I have never, ever had a problem with it in the two years I have had it.

I am on a Dell at the office (3 years now, older than mine) and I've had no problems at the office either.

I have never been able to understand why folks seem to have so many problems with them.

I agree: you need a custom built machine. You need a tinkerer like my stepdad to build one for you. Or you need to buy a used machine that someone is getting rid of because they have upgraded.

On my local freecycle, I've seen several XP machines offered recently - you might try that!
post #36 of 46
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I would just like to interject here: I have a Dell Dimension 4700 with XP, and I have never, ever had a problem with it in the two years I have had it.

I am on a Dell at the office (3 years now, older than mine) and I've had no problems at the office either.

I have never been able to understand why folks seem to have so many problems with them.
Our Dell laptop is pretty good too. It's a year old, but it works great. I've heard just as many horror stories about Gateways and Toshibas as I have Dells. My big peeve is the trial software that all of those companies preload on the machines.
post #37 of 46
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Our Dell laptop is pretty good too. It's a year old, but it works great.
I'll bet you a cup of coffee that the motherboard on that thing blows around 3 years old or not long after that. Mine worked great for the first year too.
post #38 of 46
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I'll bet you a cup of coffee that the motherboard on that thing blows around 3 years old or not long after that. Mine worked great for the first year too.
Is that why I get a new Dell at work every three years??
post #39 of 46
We have Dell computers at work, about 20,000 of them. We have two in our office, we had a problem with the power pack on mine but they fixed it immediately and no problems with the second one.

My first computer back home was a Dell, it fried the motherboard as soon as it was switched on and took over 8 weeks to get fixed.
post #40 of 46
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I'll bet you a cup of coffee that the motherboard on that thing blows around 3 years old or not long after that. Mine worked great for the first year too.
At least it was a gift, so we won't be out anything. Then Mike will really want an Alienware. One of Mike's friends had a Toshiba that died after 3 yrs too. I think it was the motherboard too. Sounds like laptops are made pretty cheaply.
post #41 of 46
There are computers out there with XP, but theyre hard to find.

My SO bought a laptop with vista, he managed to overwrite it and put XP on it.
post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by TigerOnTheProwl View Post
First off, never, EVER, buy a dell. It's the worst computer on the market. What you could do is go to a local computer shop and they would be able to tell you where you can get a copy of XP or you could just download a torrent of the XP operating system.
That is your own opinion about Dell. I'm sorry you have had issues with them, but my husband's company has thousands of them with no major problems. Like any company, I am sure there will be problems, but saying that they are the worst computer on the market is a bit extreme.
post #43 of 46
Maybe you could find a used computer that has it? Most places that sell new computers aren't going to have them because it's considered "old" technology, most people want vista, so they don't bother to carry xp anymore.
post #44 of 46
I never had big issues with our Dell's at work. I think out of all 15 computers we only had one have an issue with it's fan, and that was it. They'd had them 3 years when I left the company. I have a Gateway and an HP here at home. The Gateway is about 4 years old and has a few issues (like not going into standby mode when told do, but it will on it's own still). The HP is about 4 years old and running great, but then it doesn't get the same use since that's DH's computer.
post #45 of 46
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Is Dell really that bad?
I've known a few people who have had good luck with Dell, but it seems they were older models.

My Mom bought a computer through Dell. She had only one requirement, which she told them, which was that it played "Sims 2", and that was exactly what it did not do. When she finally talked to someone who was in this country (that took a few weeks) they said it was the wrong media card or something. They sent out a new one, and it still did not work. Ultimately, she found out that they had given her their lowest model, and it would never ever, in a million years, be able to support "Sims 2", which they knew and blatantly lied to her over and over again for about a year. Obviously, that was not the model she actually paid for. I think she ended up giving up; I'm not sure, but she did buy an HP, which does run "Sims 2".

I have an HP laptop, and we both really like them. I love my laptop.

Tricia
post #46 of 46
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
I have never been able to understand why folks seem to have so many problems with them.
I have Dell at home and paid about $150 more for less than what B paid for his HP. I.e. he got 512 MB of Ram, higher GHz processor, and larger HD, while I got half of that.

Additionally when I started at my last job, we were ending our ordering with Dell. Mainly because we would order the computer with certain specifications, receive it then have to return it because one of the specs were not met.

Our Dell servers were also having to have repairs done on it at least once every few months. Additionally our backup tape drive that automatically backed up everything on our servers would poop out every 4-6 months...to the point that it would have to be completely replaced.

This is in addition to doing the maintenance of updating the drivers, cleaning memory, etc. From a business perspective the laptops and servers were just not up to par.
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