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post #1 of 15
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Manitoba has the toughest Drunk Driving Laws in the country. This year the police are upping the ante! Anyone caught and charged with impaired driving will have their names released publically.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Winn...8/4692243.html

Some people are upset about this, but the way I look at it is that they have committed a crime just like a bank robber has committed a crime. Currently a bank robber's name is made public, but not a drunk driver. So why should we protect the identity of one criminal but not another?

Here are our current drunk driving laws.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/justice/impaired/index.html

And they got tougher at the beginning of January, 2007:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...a-driving.html

What do you think about releasing the names of charged impaired drivers?
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post #2 of 15
Simple, if people don't drink and drive, they won't have to worry about their names being on that list I'm for protecting the right of the innocent drivers on the roads...not the selfish people who choose to drink and drive and put their lives at risk as well as the ones around them. DUI related deaths and injuries are preventable. People should think before they decide to hop in that car intoxicated.

If they've been charged and they are guilty of the crime....then the public has a right to know who they are, who lives near them, and who to try and avoid if need be.
post #3 of 15
the names of drunk drivers here show up in the paper, but for the most part i dont know anyone that reads that part of the news paper. i dont see anything wrong with that.

after they are found gulity, not before.
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
after they are found gulity, not before.
From what I heard on the news they only have to be "charged" for their name to appear. Nothing about having been through court and having been found guilty was mentioned.
post #5 of 15
I am not sure if drunk drivers are listed in the paper if they are just charged. But we do have a court wrap up section that tells us the outcome of every local court case. It list everything from drug dealers/user cases to assault cases along with names. We also have a police wrap up section that lists all the things city and county cops got called for. Sometimes they list names but most times they don't list names. We also have another smaller section that tells you where the cops will be sitting to pop speeders. I never figured out why they wanna give speeders fair warning on where they will be to catch them speeding.
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
From what I heard on the news they only have to be "charged" for their name to appear. Nothing about having been through court and having been found guilty was mentioned.

hmm then i would have a problem. I dont think the police should release the names of people, that are just being charged...

If people are found gulity of a crime, then they can do what ever they want, for all i care, they could rent a billboard and post there pic
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
hmm then i would have a problem. I dont think the police should release the names of people, that are just being charged...

If people are found gulity of a crime, then they can do what ever they want, for all i care, they could rent a billboard and post there pic
I agree with Bruce on this one, however in the US arrest records are public information. I just saw a story on our local news how lawyers will gain access to the recent arrests in an area and then solicit the people for service.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
hmm then i would have a problem. I dont think the police should release the names of people, that are just being charged...

If people are found gulity of a crime, then they can do what ever they want, for all i care, they could rent a billboard and post there pic
Everyday we hear about pedophiles being arrested and people arrested for armed robbery, assault, animal cruelty etc. Their names appear in the news without them having first gone to trial. Why should being charged with drunk driving be any different?
post #9 of 15
Public humiliation is a very old-fashioned punishment that worked pretty good in its day. I have no problem with bringing it back. However, there's one part of that that bothers me......you said anyone caught and charged.....what happened to innocent until proven guilty? Let's release the names of those convicted of drunken driving, but let's keep them private until they have their day in court.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
Everyday we hear about pedophiles being arrested and people arrested for armed robbery, assault, animal cruelty etc. Their names appear in the news without them having first gone to trial. Why should being charged with drunk driving be any different?
Those names should not appear also. Until they are found gulity.
I know a guy(he worked for the courts, in a program for kids) that was accused of sexual crimes aganist kids, his name and face was all over the newspapers here,

When he refused to leave his job, and forced them to take it court, it turned out that, the kids where given brides by rival party to say those things,
to make Him look bad.

But did that show up on the paper? sure page 3-c, Not on the front the page with his pic, like the day he was accused. End reuslt was to keep his famly safe he had to leave his job, and the city, for something he was not even gulity of.

the media tries people now before there is even a hearing, thats why i say no names should be releases until proven gulity.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
the media tries people now before there is even a hearing, thats why i say no names should be releases until proven gulity.
Absolutely. Agreed 100% and I'd like to see the media forced to give the same exposure when the person is found innocent as they gave when they were arrested and charged. But, nooooooooo.......that's not "newsworthy" --- newsworthy being defined as only news that boosts their ratings. News that's entertaining enough to capture and hold the viewing audience. Someone being found innocent isn't nearly as sensational as someone getting arrested and charged. It's not entertaining enough.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
Everyday we hear about pedophiles being arrested and people arrested for armed robbery, assault, animal cruelty etc. Their names appear in the news without them having first gone to trial. Why should being charged with drunk driving be any different?
I agree. And I'm pretty sure that when someone is caught DUI, the police have done a breathalizer and/or can certainly tell if someone is drunk so I say publish the information. Treat them exactly the same way as people arrested for other crimes whose names are printed at time of arrest.
post #13 of 15
I think a bigger area to concentrate on is getting drunk drivers not to drive drunk again.
Fines or taking away of drivers license seem not to have any effect on getting behind the wheel drunk again. There are many cases in the news of people getting their 6th DUI offense-even after having jail time.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by GailC View Post
I think a bigger area to concentrate on is getting drunk drivers not to drive drunk again.
Fines or taking away of drivers license seem not to have any effect on getting behind the wheel drunk again. There are many cases in the news of people getting their 6th DUI offense-even after having jail time.
Have a look at the links in my first post which lead to information on our drunk driving laws. Manitoba has the toughest drunk driving laws in Canada and they are getting tougher each year. This is just another addition to what is already a very strict law with any room to maneuver.

Our major local paper won't be publishing the names because they don't feel it's "news worthy" and serves the paper no purpose. However they say that if a person charged with DUI is a publically known figure that is news worthy and they will publish that name, LOL

Here is the link to that decision by the Free Press.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sub...-4684850c.html
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post #15 of 15
Not until there is a conviction of guilty!!! There are too many "ifs" in a d.u.i. - the police can stop you if, in their opinion, you are driving erractically. As for the FSTs & breathalyzers, they can be inaccurate, and obviously don't always give an accurate picture.
and don't consider a "guilty or no contest" plea a true sign of guilt either, unless you're poor enough to qualify for the public defender, it's gonna be alot cheaper to plead, pay the fines, do a 1st offender class and be careful not to drive impaired in the future (and if you're not a drunk driver anyway, what are the odds of that happening)
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