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Why Don't All Schools Have Metal Detectors?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
I'm getting sick and tired of seeing children killed at schools. It seems like such a simple thing to solve if school officals would just except that they are not imune from such a thing. Am I crazy for thinking this way?
post #2 of 16
They shouldn't need metal detectors and so much sets them off that they are largely impractical.

We had metal detectors at a place I worked, sometimes a belt or something would set it off, security, if they knew you would just wave you through with a quick wave of the wand, so wear a belt, put a small gun near the metal pieces on the belt and you get the gun in.

Besides, if someone is crazy enough to start shooting up a school, they probably wont hesitate to shoot the guard at the metal detector either
post #3 of 16
I think metal detectors would be treating the symptoms instead of the disease. IMHO, the real problem is kids with mental disorders / being bullied not getting the help they need. For example, judging by his youtube material the recent school shooter here in Finland seemed to be very troubled long before the incident. Someone should have taken notice.
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
I suppose you are right. Good greif something needs to be done though. Something that works.
post #5 of 16
Metal detectors do nothing to stop someone blasting into a school shooting. We had that discussion about Columbine. It might have changed some of their tactics, but the basic premise was to go in shooting and taking out as many people as possible.
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
I guess I just don't understand how people children could be so "crazy" do kill as many people as they could. When I was in school one of my close friends brought a HUGE knife to school and showed a guy he didn't like to warn him to stay away from his girlfriend. I never thought he would do something like that and I just didn't understand why he would even think about doing that. Needless to say he was kicked out of school and I've seen him a few times since, but I would never want to hang out with him, that's for sure.

Sometimes it is really hard to judge a person. My friend was the class clown everyone liked him, and we were all surprized.
post #7 of 16
Thats sad how schools actually may need metal detectors...School is suppose to be a fun place!
Wish you could help the kids that feel they need to harm people like that.
post #8 of 16
The school systems can barely afford to pay teachers and get supplies and books, most cannot afford metal detectors, and THAT is the real tragedy- why isn't school funding more of a priority??

Cleveland had a school shooting on October and there are implementing $3 million in heightened security, 3 million dollars for security in a school system that has 40 plus children in a classroom, has had to close schools for lack of funding, lay off teachers, etc etc etc. How do we, as a country, expect to compete in the global marketplace when out children are receiving sub-par education?

The state of the education system in this country seriously makes me sick
post #9 of 16
Most schools can't afford pencils, art classes, music classes, etc., nevermind teacher salaries.

I'm positive that it is a cost issue. People might say it SHOULD be done, but when they see their taxes start to go up and up they'll start screaming.

As it is, there are tons of folks that pay taxes that go toward the school system, and they have no children, so they think they shouldn't have to pay for the schools.
post #10 of 16
It just makes them more creative, like in Jonesboro when they set off a fire alarm and when the school was evacuated came out of the woods shooting at the students who were now outside.
We had a bomb threat at our school after that, and they made everyone stay inside because of the Jonesboro shooting.
post #11 of 16
Maybe if the school system worked better and had more funding kids wouldn't feel the need to kill their classmates.
post #12 of 16
My own personal theory is that it has to do with the lack of personal responsibility (the teacher failed me because I didn't study in the case of the Cleveland shooting), basic anger management (in the case of most all of them), and the inability to cope with failure, rejection, or just not getting what they want.

Yes, the bullies have gotten worse, but where is the punishment for doing that to someone else? Are we SO concerned with self-esteem that the bullies get away with it so we don't hurt their feelings? There needs to be some real discipline handed out, as well as anger management and allowing kids to fail at an early age so they can learn to deal with it when things don't go their way.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
My own personal theory is that it has to do with the lack of personal responsibility (the teacher failed me because I didn't study in the case of the Cleveland shooting), basic anger management (in the case of most all of them), and the inability to cope with failure, rejection, or just not getting what they want.

Yes, the bullies have gotten worse, but where is the punishment for doing that to someone else? Are we SO concerned with self-esteem that the bullies get away with it so we don't hurt their feelings? There needs to be some real discipline handed out, as well as anger management and allowing kids to fail at an early age so they can learn to deal with it when things don't go their way.
Weeks before the Columbine shootings, a boy at my school showed people a hit list of everyone he wanted to kill at our school. Most of our class, including me, was on it. I thought really hard about what I could have done to him. I wasn't that popular, I didn't tease him, I certainly hadn't done anything that deserved death. And, the kids on it took it seriously, we were scared; if you think of a stereotype of boys who flip out and start shooting their classmates, he fit it perfectly. A couple years later he started wearing the "Trenchcoat mafia" uniform.

What was his punishment? A 3-day in-school suspension. I always wonder what would have happened if that was a couple weeks later, after Columbine, if the principal would have basically done nothing then.
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
It really is something that there doesn't seem to be one solution. I just don't know what should be done exactly. I'm so worried for the day I have children and they are in school.

There are a lot of great points made on this topic by everyone. It's so scary, that's for sure.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
The school systems can barely afford to pay teachers and get supplies and books, most cannot afford metal detectors, and THAT is the real tragedy- why isn't school funding more of a priority??

Cleveland had a school shooting on October and there are implementing $3 million in heightened security, 3 million dollars for security in a school system that has 40 plus children in a classroom, has had to close schools for lack of funding, lay off teachers, etc etc etc. How do we, as a country, expect to compete in the global marketplace when out children are receiving sub-par education?

The state of the education system in this country seriously makes me sick
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
It just makes them more creative, like in Jonesboro when they set off a fire alarm and when the school was evacuated came out of the woods shooting at the students who were now outside.
We had a bomb threat at our school after that, and they made everyone stay inside because of the Jonesboro shooting.


Great points, didn't think about that at all. I just want to take my family and live under a rock.
post #16 of 16
Not all schools need it. I don't think we need to frisk 7 years old.
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