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post #1 of 10
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well, the UN peace keeping mission in Darfur.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa...tml#cnnSTCText

is starting to sound like it will be a huge success.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...c_id=rssafrica

It wont be long before they start asking for western troops to go
how far are you willing to support the mission when UN/US/UK troops start dying?
post #2 of 10
I am not in favour of a civilian force taking over if they are not yet properly prepared to do so, they will likely end up failing in their duties and the UN will just have a new mess to sort out some time in the future.

I also think Sudan has to get over themselves on which countries they will accept equipment from, if you can't make it and/or afford it yourself, make do with what high quality equipment countries are willing to donate to allow the force to be successful.

As far as the the jihad against the new force or UN / foreign forces stationed there, it is not surprising, and people do go into warzones knowing there is a risk. IMO wars shouldn't exist in the first place, but they do, and as long as we help perprtuate wars, we have to help clean up the mess left behind.

The jihad is nothing to do with the situation in Darfur, just another opportunity to legitimise the killings by saying they are on our soil forcing us to change things that are against our beliefs, lets do something about it, without looking at the legitimate reasons the forces are there
post #3 of 10
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It wont be long before they start asking for western troops to go
how far are you willing to support the mission when UN/US/UK troops start dying?
I'm conflicted about UN control over US military personnel. I think the UN should have its own standing force made up of volunteers from all countries. Big enough and well-enough armed to be effective in situations like this, but not big enough to be a problem if misused by the UN. Read that to say that the US could keep them in line if need be.
post #4 of 10
The UN was created in part to deal with situations such as what is happening in Dafur. Do I think that the UN should go in, no. The reason being is that I don't think they are capable of dealing with a situation that is so out of hand. I feel that if the UN makes a show of force, the already desparate situation will disintergrate completely.

Yes the situation is horrible in Dafur. Yes the UN should do something. No they should not supply troops. There would be more and more deaths if that were to happen. The UN cannot even gaurentee the safety of their aid workers there. It is horrible what is happening to the innocent there, but the goal should be to make things better not worse and armed forces will blow this situation sky high!

The UN is not all that it could be or should be. They need to make some changes within before they will be able to handle anything this delicate.
post #5 of 10
Perhaps the UN should hire Blackwater.
post #6 of 10
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I'm conflicted about UN control over US military personnel. I think the UN should have its own standing force made up of volunteers from all countries. Big enough and well-enough armed to be effective in situations like this, but not big enough to be a problem if misused by the UN. Read that to say that the US could keep them in line if need be.
Why the US to keep them in line? Why not other countries?
post #7 of 10
Because we have the guns.

OK, the comment was chauvanistic.....point made, point accepted.

I guess what I meant was that the UN should have enough force to perform these police actions, but not enough force to be a real threat in case it got hijacked by a group of nations intending to do harm to the US (or Canada, or UK, or ..... name your favorite country)
post #8 of 10
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Because we have the guns.

OK, the comment was chauvanistic.....point made, point accepted.

I guess what I meant was that the UN should have enough force to perform these police actions, but not enough force to be a real threat in case it got hijacked by a group of nations intending to do harm to the US (or Canada, or UK, or ..... name your favorite country)
OK - I agree - nobody or group should be omnipotent.
post #9 of 10
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the only way, they are going to make it better,
IS if they are will to submit to a fight, to block the arms coming in from Iran.
If we are willing to have people die, for nothing.
post #10 of 10
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Perhaps the UN should hire Blackwater.
well killing is what is going to be needed.
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