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post #61 of 73
That will happen when she is locked up..... now who are my contacts ...

A cracked cheekbone just isn't enough. I had one of those when I was a kid just from running into someone in the playground.
post #62 of 73
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If she dies tomorrow it will be too late.
post #63 of 73
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Originally Posted by Rosiemac View Post
Want to hear the good news though?

When she turned up at court to be sentenced, it came out that she had been jumped on by four men who gave her a fractured cheekbone
I would say, justice had been served
post #64 of 73
Well, I guess I'm on my own here when I think that revenge doesn't serve any purpose. She should be punished, if I had my way, yes, she would be in prison for that. But I don't think revenge does anything other than satisfy people's sense of outrage. And that's not the same as justice.

If I saw someone doing that to a little kitten and tried to stop them and they wouldn't, you can bet I'd get physical about it - no doubts there. But I wouldn't stalk someone down afterwards after reading about it randomly in the paper, and beat them up over it. If someone did something like that to one of my beloved babies, I would not stalk them down and be violent towards them either. I can't say what I'd do if I caught them in the act, but that is different. It doesn't mean I don't love my babies and wouldn't do anything in my power to protect them, but if I retaliated out of a sense of viciousness and revenge, I could never look myself in the mirror again. It wouldn't help my babies, it would only satisfy an urge for revenge. And I think you have to rise above that. But just my opinion. It doesn't change how disgusted and horrified I am at what she did, but I don't have to become a questionable and violent person because of it. Why should her crimes make me lower myself to her level?

Violence begets violence, and I am not going to be party to that. Like Ghandi said (and someone mentioned earlier) `an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'. He accomplished more through non-violence than many have been able to with it. If we want to change our society we need to educate people, and punish them justly for their wrongs, not rampage around exacting our own form of justice. Nobody learns anything from that, and we would never advance as a society if that's how things worked.
post #65 of 73
The thing is that while it feels good to vent our frustrations against animal abusers like this, to the outside world it just perpetuates the "crazy cat lady" stereotype. Emphasis on crazy.

The fact that she has actually been prosecuted for this is a step in the right direction. A step. I wish she had gotten jail time, too, but a 6 month curfew, a year probation (that's what I assume our equivalent to "community and supervisory order" would be), and lifetime ban from ever owning an animal is actually a pretty harsh sentence for anywhere in the world where there isn't proof of an animal's death.

I'm glad there is outrage at something like this - there should be! I'm glad she wasn't just given a slap on the wrist because of the "mitigating" circumstance that she was drunk. But we also can't lower ourselves to HER level by actually committing violence or even wishing death on her for her actions. Karma will catch her - it doesn't need our help.
post #66 of 73
I think we get so mad at animal and child abuse/cruelty cases because kids and animals are so trusting and so defenseless. So we feel like thier protectors.

Individuals with a perverted mind are predators, always looking for something to dominate, hurt or kill.

Basically, that's the bottom line, you're either a protector or a predator. And I think there are varying degrees to that.

For example, when I step on a bug, I don't feel bad and nobody knocks me on my butt over it.

But if I saw someone hurting an animal out of mean-ness I would try very hard to stop it, and I would definitely report it.

If I saw someone hurting another human being, I would risk my life to stop it.

This girl needs psychiatric help and to be kept somewhere that she can't keep hurting living things.
post #67 of 73
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
The thing is that while it feels good to vent our frustrations against animal abusers like this, to the outside world it just perpetuates the "crazy cat lady" stereotype. Emphasis on crazy.
Unless I misread something, these must have been "crazy cat men" who kicked her butt. I've never associated the stereotype you mention with individuals getting physical with someone due to animal abuse. Most people refer to me in that manner affectionately, while others I know use it negatively in connection with hoarders. I imagine we could have a whole different discussion on what exactly being a crazy cat lady means, but in my mind it has nothing to do with the behavior you associate it with.
post #68 of 73
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The thing is that while it feels good to vent our frustrations against animal abusers like this, to the outside world it just perpetuates the "crazy cat lady" stereotype. Emphasis on crazy.
No, i think i would have to disagree with you there Heidi?.

The way i look at it is it's showing her that people won't stand for animal cruelty, and most people feel that a fine, being banned from keeping animals, community service etc... is too light for them.
post #69 of 73
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Well, I guess I'm on my own here when I think that revenge doesn't serve any purpose. She should be punished, if I had my way, yes, she would be in prison for that. But I don't think revenge does anything other than satisfy people's sense of outrage. And that's not the same as justice.

If I saw someone doing that to a little kitten and tried to stop them and they wouldn't, you can bet I'd get physical about it - no doubts there. But I wouldn't stalk someone down afterwards after reading about it randomly in the paper, and beat them up over it. If someone did something like that to one of my beloved babies, I would not stalk them down and be violent towards them either. I can't say what I'd do if I caught them in the act, but that is different. It doesn't mean I don't love my babies and wouldn't do anything in my power to protect them, but if I retaliated out of a sense of viciousness and revenge, I could never look myself in the mirror again. It wouldn't help my babies, it would only satisfy an urge for revenge. And I think you have to rise above that. But just my opinion. It doesn't change how disgusted and horrified I am at what she did, but I don't have to become a questionable and violent person because of it. Why should her crimes make me lower myself to her level?

Violence begets violence, and I am not going to be party to that. Like Ghandi said (and someone mentioned earlier) `an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'. He accomplished more through non-violence than many have been able to with it. If we want to change our society we need to educate people, and punish them justly for their wrongs, not rampage around exacting our own form of justice. Nobody learns anything from that, and we would never advance as a society if that's how things worked.
Sarah, you aren't on your own here, I am with you on this one.
post #70 of 73
Yes, I think her punishment is too light. I wouldn't stalk her and beat her up, after the fact, however I would protest her sentance to the courts, pleading with them that she get a MUCH STIFFER punishment. She deserves jail time for what she did. If Paris Hilton can go to jail for her traffic violations, this cat beater should go to jail for her obvious cruelty to that innocent cat.
post #71 of 73
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
The thing is that while it feels good to vent our frustrations against animal abusers like this, to the outside world it just perpetuates the "crazy cat lady" stereotype. Emphasis on crazy.

The fact that she has actually been prosecuted for this is a step in the right direction. A step. I wish she had gotten jail time, too, but a 6 month curfew, a year probation (that's what I assume our equivalent to "community and supervisory order" would be), and lifetime ban from ever owning an animal is actually a pretty harsh sentence for anywhere in the world where there isn't proof of an animal's death.

I'm glad there is outrage at something like this - there should be! I'm glad she wasn't just given a slap on the wrist because of the "mitigating" circumstance that she was drunk. But we also can't lower ourselves to HER level by actually committing violence or even wishing death on her for her actions. Karma will catch her - it doesn't need our help.
I think the amount of outrage being vented toward the woman is making some of us sound like "crazy cat ladies." I agree with that.

In fact I agree with the whole post and with the posts by Cindy and Sarah, too.
post #72 of 73
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The thing is that while it feels good to vent our frustrations against animal abusers like this, to the outside world it just perpetuates the "crazy cat lady" stereotype. Emphasis on crazy.
I guess I'm not really sure who the *outside world* is. People who don't have cats? Believe it or not, I know plenty of people who don't have cats, don't particularly even like them, but still think individuals who behave like this need to have their butts relocated somewhere between their ears. If it's a dog, a horse, any other animal that is tortured or abused and people are equally outraged, what are they refered to as? Just plain crazy? It's kind of interesting if you think about it. Crazy women with cats have their own label, while everyone else just gets lumped together. Makes me feel kinda special.
post #73 of 73
I believe this topic has now been discussed to death, and am closing the thread.
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