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post #1 of 19
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Some of these are just gross and a waste of life.
Top 10 most bizarre experiments

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/nov/01/research
post #2 of 19
A number of those are completely against ethics codes now. There were quite a few experiments, esp in psychology, in the 60s that were cruel. The prison experiment, for one, and the one about people's response to authority figures.

That's why I love linguistics... the worst you can really do is record someone without their knowledge.
post #3 of 19
That is some really, really sick stuff. Yucko

And the need to kill a poor elephant was what now?
post #4 of 19
I stopped reading the article after this:
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... the team concluded: "It appears that the elephant is highly sensitive to the effects of LSD."
Umm...yea...the elephant DIED. Dead dead dead.

I did pick up at the top 10 and wanted to vomit when I read this:
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Doctor rubs vomit from yellow fever patients into open wounds and drinks it.
Conclusion: Mistakenly claims it is not infectious
One expression: barf:

I can't even imagine being a patient and watching my doctor DRINK vomit from my open wounds.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
That is some really, really sick stuff. Yucko

And the need to kill a poor elephant was what now?
I agree, but if you think back, in the 60s they experimented on humans with LSD as well. From the article, it doesn't necessarily sound like they meant to kill it.
post #6 of 19
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I agree, but if you think back, in the 60s they experimented on humans with LSD as well. From the article, it doesn't necessarily sound like they meant to kill it.
I agree, from what I did read, I really don't think they knew what would happen other than a bunch of hypothesis.
post #7 of 19
Pretty much on par with these is what happened to David Reimer, which was the topic of a documentary I saw recently on TLC - "Born a Boy, Raised as a Girl". I sat there most of the time with my jaw hanging open. I was utterly amazed that anyone, let alone a renouned psychologist, would think that was a good idea regardless of the trauma he experienced in the botched circumcism. And in the process, he destroyed the entire family as individuals and as a unit.
post #8 of 19
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i really really wanted to have a conversation with the russian and the 2 head dog thing.

I saw some of that on David Reimer, that one was also, upsetting me.
post #9 of 19
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i really really wanted to have a conversation with the russian and the 2 head dog thing.

I saw some of that on David Reimer, that one was also, upsetting me.
The two headed dog thing is described in "Stiff: The curious life of cadavers" - great reading and quite funny.
post #10 of 19
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unles your the dog ofcourse , then i bet not so fun.
i mean i understand why, i guess, But it makes you wonder what they do now
WE can say ethics, but from what i have seen, large number of people dont have.
post #11 of 19
Yes, it's amazing to see what people would do before the time of ethics committees.

Now you can't even interview people without approval from ethics.
post #12 of 19
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Yes, it's amazing to see what people would do before the time of ethics committees.

Now you can't even interview people without approval from ethics.
Or give them a form to fill out. When I was doing my undergrad research everything had to be approved.
post #13 of 19
Uggh, some seriously disturbing stuff.
Like what the Nazi scientists got up to when all ethical constraints were removed.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I agree, but if you think back, in the 60s they experimented on humans with LSD as well. From the article, it doesn't necessarily sound like they meant to kill it.

Famous last words, "they didn't mean to kill it"

I would hope that the humans gave their consent to the experiments, the elephants, although HIGHLY intelligent, didn't have that luxury.

Seems to me that many scientists have no conscience, or may it is many just have no soul.
post #15 of 19
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Famous last words, "they didn't mean to kill it"

I would hope that the humans gave their consent to the experiments, the elephants, although HIGHLY intelligent, didn't have that luxury.

Seems to me that many scientists have no conscience, or may it is many just have no soul.
I don't think the humans they experimented on gave their permission as presumably they were in psychiatric facilities at the time. I'm pretty disgusted by these experiments. Why oh why would someone want to have a living 2 headed dog especially 2 different breeds? It's horrendous.
post #16 of 19
it seems unproductive, to me, to judge a whole group by its worst examples. Kind of like judging all religion by the Crusades, the Inquisition, Jonestown, and the like.

We could sit here all day and cite the atrocities that humans have done to one another and our environment, and I think we would find that it crosses all party lines/belief systems/etc.
post #17 of 19
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it seems unproductive, to me, to judge a whole group by its worst examples. Kind of like judging all religion by the Crusades, the Inquisition, Jonestown, and the like.

We could sit here all day and cite the atrocities that humans have done to one another and our environment, and I think we would find that it crosses all party lines/belief systems/etc.
Yes, and the ones we hear about are the nasties. The ordinary, normal, often wonderful people, who make up the majority of any of those groups/parties/belief systems/etc, do not make the news, because there is nothing sensational about them. Says more about society's taste in news than about the news items.
post #18 of 19
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Uggh, some seriously disturbing stuff.
Like what the Nazi scientists got up to when all ethical constraints were removed.

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking, Mengele.

And if I remember my history correctly, the U.S. and Russia both fought over getting those Nazi scientists out of Germany at the end of the War and wanted them to work for their respective countries.
post #19 of 19
That's awful, but I must say the part about the turkeys and the "head on a stick" was a bit funny
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