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post #91 of 122
I have listened to three versions and read one transcript and all of them were edited differently so I am not sure if an unedited version exists out there.

This website claims to have the closest transcript to the 'original' version after checking several versions.

It also shows the very edited transcripts that other stations are showing that changes the message completely.

Also the end of the tape says

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I got 'em in the parking lot trying to record us. I got that girl saying she's gonna wear a recorder…
So it may not have been the son who released the tape
post #92 of 122
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Originally Posted by icklemiss21 View Post
I have listened to three versions and read one transcript and all of them were edited differently so I am not sure if an unedited version exists out there.

This website claims to have the closest transcript to the 'original' version after checking several versions.

It also shows the very edited transcripts that other stations are showing that changes the message completely.

Also the end of the tape says



So it may not have been the son who released the tape
If somebody else taped the son and the father talking without both the son and the father knowing, then the tape would have been illegal.
post #93 of 122
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
HOLY COW, did he say that about his daughter? I didn't know that.

For SURE he is a bigoted racist and I don't know how he can say he isn't.
I've looked at that transcript and he does not say he won't have nothing to do with his daughter anymore if she was dating a black man.
From reading that transcript, it appears to me he was afraid he was going to be taped using the "n-word."
It also appears he is saying the attempts have already been made to tape him. By the way I've seen a number of TV shows where a black person brought home a white fiancee, and black relatives didn't seem too happy either.
post #94 of 122
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Does anyone have the link to the entire conversation? Unedited?
I think I need to listen to the entire tape. Thank you.
Unedited, and NSFW: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/45201/

Be sure to listen to it to the end, where he tells his son that he can't work with him anymore unless he dumps his girlfriend
post #95 of 122
Thread Starter 
Dog the Bounty Hunter is on the Sean Hannity show right now.

And I think it is Dog's right to choose his employees. He, obviously, doesn't trust Tucker's GF, with good reason it would seem.
post #96 of 122
from what i was reading, he does not make that much off of a&e.
some of the people he caught in the show was worth more then what
he was paid for the show.
post #97 of 122
Any one catch the interview on fox, his teary eyed apology attempt to excuse his vocabulary.
post #98 of 122
Thread Starter 
Yes, I watched it. I just cannot believe his excuse that he didn't realize how hurtful that word is to black people. I mean, come on, that was the reason he wouldn't let Tucker's GF be around them.

But I do think this should blow over and his show should come back on.
post #99 of 122
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Yes, I watched it. I just cannot believe his excuse that he didn't realize how hurtful that word is to black people. I mean, come on, that was the reason he wouldn't let Tucker's GF be around them.

But I do think this should blow over and his show should come back on.
It was NOT the only reason he wouldn't let her be around them. It wasn't because of her colour. It was because of her bad character and checkered past, and more than likely she wasn't doing anything to change.
post #100 of 122
If she had anything to do with her boyfriend recording his father and selling the tape, then I would say the point was proved about her character.
post #101 of 122
I wish I had seen the interview.
Even with his silly looking mullet, he attracts attention, and most of what he tries to do is good. How can someone that works so hard to keep kids off drugs and has been honored so many times by his community be all bad? He is entitled to say anything he wants on HIS phone, in his home or office, and if the person recording it doesn't like it, maybe they shouldn't sneak around taping people's conversations.
post #102 of 122
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Originally Posted by Telynn View Post
If she had anything to do with her boyfriend recording his father and selling the tape, then I would say the point was proved about her character.
Wondering how you could even propose this thought.........
The comments of the person who taped the conversation and exposed "DOG" of being racist is of worse character then he is sad. If it was a sexist slander, or bigoted, offensive toward children sexually explicit................I bet there would be a difference of opinion.
post #103 of 122
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
Wondering how you could even propose this thought.........
The comments of the person who taped the conversation and exposed "DOG" of being racist is of worse character then he is sad. If it was a sexist slander, or bigoted, offensive toward children sexually explicit................I bet there would be a difference of opinion.
Well, the problem with this is that he was having a private conversation.
Is someone allowed to have a sexually explicit private conversation, for example, with someone else? Or do you think no one allowed to say anything in private in case it's offensive to someone? The man did not expect his conversation to become public.
post #104 of 122
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Originally Posted by jenniferd View Post
Well, the problem with this is that he was having a private conversation.
Is someone allowed to have a sexually explicit private conversation, for example, with someone else? Or do you think no one allowed to say anything in private in case it's offensive to someone? The man did not expect his conversation to become public.
Those of celebrity status can never assume any part of their personal lives is private, especially if it contradicts how they portray themselves to the public.
It was Paris Hilton's fault for being in a sex video, correct? It was Mel Gibson's malice guilty of being a sexist bigot, how many other examples are there..........
They are showing a lot of the interview on VH1's Best Week Ever.......
post #105 of 122
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
Any one catch the interview on fox, his teary eyed apology attempt to excuse his vocabulary.
I saw him on Larry King the other night.

Here is the clip of the show (scroll down a bit), and below that is a transcript. Interesting reading.

http://homewithcharisse.blogspot.com...an-update.html

Here is an exerp that I found particularly "interesting!" It sounds to me like he's saying that the NE set him up hoping he would say what he did. Which makes no sense to me.

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D. CHAPMAN: My wife, Beth. Right. And they had dressed -- four of the five had tank shirts on, these girls. So -- and one of them was Tucker's girlfriend. So I called him up and said, you know, what are you doing, son? What are you guys doing here?

And the whole idea was the "Enquirer Magazine" was trying to trap me using racial slurs or -- in the celebrity world, anything you can -- and you know this...

KING: But how did they know you might use those words?

D. CHAPMAN: Well, I'm sure they said here -- this guy, "Dog" has been to prison. You know, he's this rehabilitated guy. If anybody is a pin cushion for something to go wrong, I'm sure "Dog" is going to say that.
post #106 of 122
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
But I do think this should blow over and his show should come back on.
I do too. We all make mistakes in life and because he lives his life in the spotlight, his mistakes are made public while ours aren't.

I like his show and he does good work.

We've all said and done things out of anger and frustration that we have regreted saying. He's made a public apology and people need to accept that at face value and move on.

Personally I think he should stop making public appearances and doing interviews about it, because all that does is keep it in the foreground of the news and media. He should lay low, keep doing his job and let it all blow over. Eventually the media will find another target and move on. They always do.
post #107 of 122
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
Wondering how you could even propose this thought.........
The comments of the person who taped the conversation and exposed "DOG" of being racist is of worse character then he is sad. If it was a sexist slander, or bigoted, offensive toward children sexually explicit................I bet there would be a difference of opinion.
He made the comment that when he called her that he meant that more as a description of her character, then her race. (Personal experience, I have heard it used in that manner before, as a description of character not race and this was by a black person.) I don't watch the show, and know very little of the man. I don't know if he meant it that way or not. But if she had anything to do with her boyfriend (his son) taping the conversation and then SELLING it, then I would think her character is definetly is question. I don't care what your father says or does. If he says hurtful things to your girlfriend, you move away. You don't talk to him. You go live your own life and be the bigger better man. I'm not saying being racist is better or worse. But the son sounds like a bratty little low-life who couldn't stand the thought of Daddy cutting him out of the family business.
post #108 of 122
There are 5 different parts to the interview and you can watch all of them on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT0vTdKuAwk
I think he sounds completely ridiculous! He states over and over that he had heard several things about his son and girlfriend, he thought and tried to be like a brother to the black Americans, he was targeted as a celebrity to be trapped. If he could kill himself for all to forgive him, he would!!? What crazy statement is that! He redefines the definition of the "N" word through out the interview, yet says he didn't think he was offending any one by saying it.........
People that really know him know he says that and warn him not to use that word. Then that only people that know him would hear that conversation and know it was just the way he is, he uses that word.
Dog has never even met her him self! First time he saw her was during his interview, a clip of an interview she had. He states that threats were made to record conversations between them prior to this incident, and still placed himself in the line of fire! He consistently contradicts himself and sounds as a racist who is trying to hard to not be, at the same time completely racist. The apology and the tears all show.................
People need to view the entire video interview and stop ignoring the fact that a supposed moral leader and keeper of justice has been ostracized for good reason. I feel he caused more damage in the interview! It doesn't matter who taped the phone conversation...............
post #109 of 122
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
People need to view the entire video interview and stop ignoring the fact that a supposed moral leader and keeper of justice has been ostracized for good reason. I feel he caused more damage in the interview! It doesn't matter who taped the phone conversation...............
hmm moral leader? when did that happen. The guy has been in jail, and is talking and acting like most street people do. How could anyone expect him to be any other way.

And i still do care. I hope he press charges aganist them. I have 3 friends that are cops, if i ever taped there conversation when venting about stuff,
people would be shocked. Sorry but people would be going omg they are cops they should not be talking that way.

lol and still dont care if they bring the show back.
post #110 of 122
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
hmm moral leader? when did that happen. The guy has been in jail, and is talking and acting like most street people do. How could anyone expect him to be any other way.

And i still do care. I hope he press charges aganist them. I have 3 friends that are cops, if i ever taped there conversation when venting about stuff,
people would be shocked. Sorry but people would be going omg they are cops they should not be talking that way.

lol and still dont care if they bring the show back.
He is all about the fact that he was a criminal and has been born again..........that is his spiel. He visits schools and gives speeches to children of all ages. Moral values are part of the job character.......................I could obviously care less about his show as well, I think it's better off.
post #111 of 122
Thread Starter 
I would never consider Dog the Bounty Hunter a "moral leader."

People are allowed to have private conversations and it IS against the law to tape phone conversations unless you have a court order OR you tell the person up front they are being taped.
post #112 of 122
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I would never consider Dog the Bounty Hunter a "moral leader."

People are allowed to have private conversations and it IS against the law to tape phone conversations unless you have a court order OR you tell the person up front they are being taped.
While I agree with you that he is not a moral leader, bounty hunters do play a good role in society and he has helped people see where they are going wrong and decide themselves to change, instead of just saying 'you are a sort your life out' like many people would, which is what I believe the poster was getting at in their statement.

Also, I think it has been discussed that it was not against the law to record a conversation in Hawaii if the son did it, and since we have no idea who recorded it, or released it, the same laws that apply to you, do not apply to this case.
post #113 of 122
I'm pretty sure the son recorded it, since he is the one that sold it to the Enquirer.
post #114 of 122
This is interesting. I think the word is HORRIBLE. I don't care who uses it. Black people shouldn't be using the word either. Shouldn't even try to own the word. That is stupid in itself because even though it is not used in the same context, it gives people an excuse to use the word in the original context that is derogatory.

The word shouldn't be given so much power, but how can it not be when the word is used (NOT including rap, or as a stupid greeting, or familiar language between black people trying to be "down") to insult a group of people. And no doubt about it when "civilized" white people use it who would NEVER think of using the word out of anger you know how you are using it when you use it. As for the character of the girl mentioned, he could have said one of the many things men say derogatory about women with B being the nasty bomb, but he choose to harp not only on the female herself but her color.

It's unfortunate that The "Dog" was caught on tape, but he said what he said, recorded or not. It makes me shake my head the word is PI now. I know white people must be glad that there is not a word as charged as that one to describe themselves as a whole group of people.


I just hope that people who have their heads in the sand saying the world is colorblind will wake up. These little examples "private" or not show you how it really is. A lot of people are racist I don't care what race you are. Everyone is capable of being so. Just look at how we are describing black people as "they" or "them" reinforces that people can't look pass something trivial as color.

People are capable of having bigoted or racially insensitive tendencies. ALL races.
post #115 of 122
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Originally Posted by Libby'sMom View Post
I know white people must be glad that there is not a word as charged as that one to describe themselves as a whole group of people.
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People are capable of having bigoted or racially insensitive tendencies. ALL races.
Actually Irish people were known as the N-words of Europe for some time so it is not a completely black thing and white people do have some derogatory words used against them that could have stuck if they didn't lose themselves in history by being ignored or turned into positive terms by people with big egos.

On your second point, I completely agree, people are quite capable of being bigoted and insensitive racially, in terms of equality, sexual orientation. I wonder how many people who think racism is wrong believe that being gay (or gay marriage which could be seen as being publicly gay as in publicly racist) is also wrong?
post #116 of 122
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Originally Posted by Libby'sMom View Post
This is interesting. I think the word is HORRIBLE. I don't care who uses it. Black people shouldn't be using the word either. Shouldn't even try to own the word. That is stupid in itself because even though it is not used in the same context, it gives people an excuse to use the word in the original context that is derogatory.
I have several black friends and I have heard them all use the "N" word in conversations with each other.

Apparently it's quite acceptable for black people to call each other the "N" word, but not ok for anyone of other skin colours to use it in relation to black people.

That I do not understand at all!

I'm part Cree Indian and where I live if you refer to someone of "Indian" ancestory as "Indian" you may get a bullet in the head or at the very least a fist! I've long since given up on trying to keep up with being politically correct. For awhile "Indians" wanted to be known as "Indian". Then they decided that "Aboriginal" was the proper term. Later it was "First Nations People." I have no idea what it is now. I do know that we still have a government department called "Indian Affairs." I refer to that part of my ancestory as either "Cree" or "Cree Indian", or just "Indian." I don't find it offensive.

I'm also part Ukranian and typically use the term "Honky" which I suppose some would consider racist.

IMHO people are far too sensitive about things. I believe in "sticks and stones ..."

Historically the "N" word was used to describe an ignorant person, not a race. When and how it became a racial slur where blacks are concerned I do not know.

Was Dog wrong? Apparently. But then again like I said all of my black friends use the term between themselves and it's perfectly acceptable when they use it.

The media really needs to stop fanning the flames here and move on. So does Dog. His interviews are only serving to keep the incident in the foreground. Him trying to justify and make excuses is only causing the situation to remain in the headlines.

He really needs to lay low until it blows over, and it will.

As for his son who taped him, what a snot nose! Apparently he had been in jail for several years and needed money, so that's why he taped him and sold the tape to National Enquirer. He was trying to get rich off of his Daddy's fame. With relatives like that you sure don't need enemies!
post #117 of 122
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
I have several black friends and I have heard them all use the "N" word in conversations with each other.

Apparently it's quite acceptable for black people to call each other the "N" word, but not ok for anyone of other skin colours to use it in relation to black people.

That I do not understand at all!

I'm part Cree Indian and where I live if you refer to someone of "Indian" ancestory as "Indian" you may get a bullet in the head or at the very least a fist! I've long since given up on trying to keep up with being politically correct. For awhile "Indians" wanted to be known as "Indian". Then they decided that "Aboriginal" was the proper term. Later it was "First Nations People." I have no idea what it is now. I do know that we still have a government department called "Indian Affairs." I refer to that part of my ancestory as either "Cree" or "Cree Indian", or just "Indian." I don't find it offensive.

I'm also part Ukranian and typically use the term "Honky" which I suppose some would consider racist.

IMHO people are far too sensitive about things. I believe in "sticks and stones ..."

Historically the "N" word was used to describe an ignorant person, not a race. When and how it became a racial slur where blacks are concerned I do not know.

Was Dog wrong? Apparently. But then again like I said all of my black friends use the term between themselves and it's perfectly acceptable when they use it.

The media really needs to stop fanning the flames here and move on. So does Dog. His interviews are only serving to keep the incident in the foreground. Him trying to justify and make excuses is only causing the situation to remain in the headlines.

He really needs to lay low until it blows over, and it will.

As for his son who taped him, what a snot nose! Apparently he had been in jail for several years and needed money, so that's why he taped him and sold the tape to National Enquirer. He was trying to get rich off of his Daddy's fame. With relatives like that you sure don't need enemies!
He wasn't using the term in the text of "brother to brother", he specifically states it as derogatory, negative term. Just curious as to where your reference of the "N" words origin, ignorant person?
post #118 of 122
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
Historically the "N" word was used to describe an ignorant person, not a race. When and how it became a racial slur where blacks are concerned I do not know.
Here's a little history on the word:

Etymology and history

Main article: Negro

Earlier variants (such as neger or negar) derive from the Spanish/Portuguese word negro, meaning "black", and probably also the French nègre, which has also been used pejoratively (but also positively as in Négritude), derived from negro (the ordinary French word for "black" being noir). Both negro and noir (and therefore also nègre and) ultimately come from nigrum, the accusative form of the Latin word niger, meaning "black".

In Colonial America, negars was used in 1619 by John Rolfe, describing slaves shipped to Virginia colony.[4] Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") also prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the African Burial Ground in New York City was originally known as "Begraafplaats van de Neger" (Dutch phrase meaning "Cemetery of the negro" in English).

In the United States, the word was not always considered derogatory, but was instead used by some as merely denotative of black skin, as it was in other parts of the English-speaking world. In nineteenth-century literature, there are many uses of the word with no intended negative connotation. Charles Dickens, and Joseph Conrad (who published The of the 'Narcissus' in 1897) used the word without racist intent. Mark Twain often put the word into the mouths of his Southern characters, white and black, but did not use the word when speaking in his own voice in his autobiographical Life on the Mississippi.

In the United Kingdom and other parts of the English-speaking world, the word was often used to refer to people of Pakistani or Indian descent, or merely to darker-skinned foreigners in general; in his 1926 Modern English Usage, H. W. Fowler observed that when the word was applied to "others than full or partial negroes," it was "felt as an insult by the person described, & betrays in the speaker, if not deliberate insolence, at least a very arrogant inhumanity." The note was excised from later editions of the book.

In the 1800s, as began to acquire the pejorative connotation it holds today, the term "Colored" gained popularity as a kinder alternative to negro and associated terms. For example, abolitionists in Boston, Massachusetts posted warnings to "Colored People of Boston and vicinity." The name of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People reflects the preference for this term at the time of the NAACP's founding in 1909.

Southern dialect in many parts of the southern United States changes the pronunciation of "Negro" to "nigra" (used most famously by Lyndon B. Johnson, a proponent of civil rights). In North American English, the transition from negro represented a formerly widespread sound shift. In the early editions of his dictionary, Noah Webster suggested the new spellings of zeber for "zebra", as well as neger for "Negro".[5]
post #119 of 122
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
I'm part Cree Indian and where I live if you refer to someone of "Indian" ancestory as "Indian" you may get a bullet in the head or at the very least a fist! I've long since given up on trying to keep up with being politically correct. For awhile "Indians" wanted to be known as "Indian". Then they decided that "Aboriginal" was the proper term. Later it was "First Nations People." I have no idea what it is now. !
Native American is the politically correct term now.
Indians could mean someone from India.
post #120 of 122
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Native American is the politically correct term now.
In the USA, but not in Canada. I *think* the current politically correct term here is "First Nations People."
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