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12 Year Old Shot and Killed his Father

post #1 of 12
10/23/07 at 8:05pm
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http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1502462.html

A 12 year old apparently shot and killed his father. He's currently being held in a juvenile detention centre and is expected to be charged with murder tomorrow.

Should he be charged and tried as an adult?

I think so. There is far too much youth violence and at 12 a person knows right from wrong. I know that alot of kids commit crimes and use their age to hide behind when it comes time to pay the penalty.
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post #2 of 12
10/23/07 at 8:09pm
maybe, But it did not say why he shot him.
Would like to know why first.

Now if you want something how about this one http://wtam.com/cc-common/news/secti...rticle=2813634

Teen girls stabs another teen , how the first teen mother and grandmother keeps people from helping the girl that was attacked
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post #3 of 12
10/23/07 at 8:16pm
I don't think he understood the consequences of what he's done. Depending on what was going on in the home, he may not have seen a way out.

We had a case locally where a 15 year old girl and her friends killed her mother. http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/loc...076190312.html But there were so many problems in the home and the system let them all down. She will be treated as an adult, but I can't help but wonder if she felt that there was no other options.
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post #4 of 12
10/23/07 at 8:29pm
Saw that on the news, only a few hours from me. He will be tried for murder, too. I can't imagine how screwed up a 12 year old can be to kill someone.
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post #5 of 12
10/23/07 at 9:24pm
[quote=katachtig;2026993]I don't think he understood the consequences of what he's done. Depending on what was going on in the home, he may not have seen a way out.

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It does sound like that family was shrouded in mystery, according to the neighbors. The kids never outside playing, only outside with the dad present, etc. What goes on behind closed doors........
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post #6 of 12
10/24/07 at 5:14am
It's been done before :http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C1A96F958260

but like Bruce said, I'd like to know more details as to why he killed. A 12 year old child should know the difference between right and wrong at that age. So unless there was another factor like abuse or drugs involved, then he probably should be tried as an adult.
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post #7 of 12
10/24/07 at 5:33am
I don't think he should be tried as an adult. He isn't one. He's 12. Sure, he may know the difference between right and wrong but that is the most simplified interpretation of such an event. Much needs to be looked into to discover why on earth a child of that age is so unhappy that murder seems the only solution.
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post #8 of 12
10/24/07 at 5:59am
Too much mystery to say whether or not he should be tried. To us, sounds like possible kidnapping or molestation or something. The neighbors said the father was with the kids ALL the time when the kids were outside - that is too weird.

We have to have more info before the conclusion. But we live in the area - within 1/2 hr or so of driving.
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post #9 of 12
10/24/07 at 10:01am
The scariest thing is...if he is tried as an adult and goes to prison for 25 years, he will only be 37 when he gets out Does anyone really want that guy walking around the streets???
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post #10 of 12
10/24/07 at 7:19pm
At the moment, Tucson has a 14 y/o awaiting trial for shooting and killing his twin brother. Both brothers have/had lengthy juvenile records, for various crimes, including assaults.

Usually, people begin with petty offenses and work their way up to murder. What do you do with someone, who's starting out, by killing people?
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post #11 of 12
10/24/07 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by Trouts mom View Post
The scariest thing is...if he is tried as an adult and goes to prison for 25 years, he will only be 37 when he gets out Does anyone really want that guy walking around the streets???
In the USA to my knowledge "life" means just that....your entire life. In Canada "life" is considered 25 years, but there is a crime bill introduced that wants to make "life" mean your entire life.
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post #12 of 12
10/24/07 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
In the USA to my knowledge "life" means just that....your entire life. In Canada "life" is considered 25 years, but there is a crime bill introduced that wants to make "life" mean your entire life.
Pretty much. Often times however they will be given a first eligible parole date...such as "25 years to life". So a person with a life sentence would have to be extremely good in the prison system for 25 years before he is eligible for parole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_im...#United_States
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