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post #31 of 58
10/21/07 at 5:40pm
I remember being very dissapointed in The Clinton's when they were rehoming Socks. I thought it was very sad, and wondered like someone else said if it was all just for the "public image" at the time for them. However, I'm very glad Socks is in a wonderful home now and knows he's loved. I'd hate to think he was in a home where no one ever had time for him or payed attention to him.

I've always admired George and Laura Bush though and their great love for their cats. They seem like very genuine pet lovers to me, that really do care about their animals and I've always liked that about them. I believe their cat India is around 18 now?

I've never cared for Hillary Clinton though and I won't be voting for her.
post #32 of 58
10/21/07 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Hey, if one can't be responsible for an animal, how can they be responsible for a country?

Yep, Socks is okay alive with amputated toes and dumped by it's former owner when no longer needed.
Maybe she's a dog person. She is still with bill after all...
post #33 of 58
10/21/07 at 5:54pm
You guys are cracking me up.

Skippy, sorry.
post #34 of 58
10/21/07 at 5:58pm
I don't know ... ... people making decisions about the next President of the United States based on rehoming their pet. Really. Come on. In the first place, not all people esteem their pets as we do here. We don't agree with that, but condemn everything about them because of that? In the second place, what they do at home is not indicative of what they would do in the Oval Office.

There are some pretty serious problems facing our country and our world. We should be making our voting decisions based on how the candidates plan to address those issues. How they treated a pet really doesn't tell us anything about their stands on those issues. It might very well make us not like them personally. But we shouldn't be voting a popularity contest, anyway. This is a tempest in a teapot, a mountain out of a molehill, much ado about very little.
post #35 of 58
10/21/07 at 6:25pm
Sounds to me like she gave this cat to a good home.
Of course I don't like when people give their pets away, but it's not like she dumped this cat onto the street.
post #36 of 58
10/21/07 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
That is dumping in my book.
Dumping is when someone throws the cat out onto the street. She gave the cat to a loving home. Do you think there aren't people here who haven't given up their pet at one time or the other for various reasons?
post #37 of 58
10/21/07 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by coaster View Post
I don't know ... ... people making decisions about the next President of the United States based on rehoming their pet. Really. Come on.
You're so right Tim. I have a much better system. I vote for who is the best dressed for the election eve TV appearance.
post #38 of 58
10/21/07 at 6:42pm
give me a break! Clinton is not a cat dumper I myself have had to rehome a dog because of a life change ( I got divorced) and due to this dog having such severe separation anxiety had to be crated every moment I was not with her- in fact, she destroyed my couch while I was standing in my driveway. Being in a crate 20 hours a day was not fair to her at all, so I elected to rehome her. Does that make me a horrible pet owner? I agree with Jennifer, I think many of us have had to rehome a pet at one time or another for a myriad of reasons. Now if I would have taken that dog to the pound and said good riddance then yes, I would call myself a dumper, but I went back to the rescue I adopted her from AND fostered her until a suitable home was found.

Also, when my ex's and I's very first leukemia cat entered our lives, I was living with my parents and had a cat, but I obviously could not bring Delilah with me when I moved in with my BF and Jericho, so I left her at my parents, does that make me a dumper also?

my political views have nothing to do with my feelings on this either, my animal welfare views do, however, and to place Socks in a home where he is loved is NOT dumping, to call it such is ignorant
post #39 of 58
10/21/07 at 6:52pm
just have to deal with socks was just there for looks.
she is a pet dumper...

i think i need to make a new shirt. to replace this one
http://www.cafepress.com/jestdesigns.96837460

thinking of hmm a cartoon drawing with her tossing socks out a window
post #40 of 58
10/21/07 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
I vote for who is the best dressed for the election eve TV appearance.
I guess that would Edwards, then, no?
post #41 of 58
10/21/07 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
You're so right Tim. I have a much better system. I vote for who is the best dressed for the election eve TV appearance.
I just go for whoever is the cutest
post #42 of 58
10/22/07 at 12:07am
I had to rehome one of my cats last year. It broke my heart - I'm still not over it. But sometimes it is the best thing for the cat, as it was in my little girl's case. Even though it was essentially our fault that it ended up being the best thing for her. I'll never get over it as long as I live. And I don't consider myself a bad pet owner.

But who knows? Maybe I am.

Oh, and I was sick and disgusted when I heard about Romney's dog. And I'm a leftie. In case anyone hadn't noticed
post #43 of 58
10/22/07 at 1:07am
Well her dumping the cat is not going to make me not vote for hilary.
but her stance on just everything that matters well.

Her so called strengthening are democracy, restoreing the middle class what a joke. the increased taxed alone will knock out millions of americans out the middle class, her whole thing moves us one or i should say several more steps in being a socialist goverment.

Her stance on IRAQ is just as messed up as bush plan was to go in.
she talkes of restoring america around the world, well what a good way NOT to get countries to trust by cutting and running. WE already have rep for not really supporting are friends, over the last 20 years, so lets just keep that going.

But given her track recored you cant beleave anything she says. Cause it will change.

everything she talks about is going to do nothing but take money out of the pockets of the middle class, If you think things are bad no(which they are not) then watch how much faster things go down.

I think it really a joke that this is the BEst the Dem can put up? what ever happend to the party that used to be for the working man.

and let not forgort the chinese already brought one US presdent and now they are tying to do it again with hilary http://logiclifeline.blogspot.com/20...president.html
yea another 300,000 dollars from china town in newyork which was illegal
post #44 of 58
10/22/07 at 1:32am
Well lets face it, the Clintons can't have spent much time with Socks when they were in the White House so someone else must have been responsible for his day to day care. They were owners in name only. I have no problem with rehoming a cat for whatever reason, so long as the original owner makes sure the cat goes to a good home. That's better than keeping a cat you aren't able to care for or don't really want - to me that is cruel. Putting the animal first sometimes means rehoming. Dumping to me means leaving the animal somewhere (on the street, at a shelter) where it is homeless. Not rehoming it.

As to the declawing - well, I don't approve of declawing under any circumstances.
post #45 of 58
10/22/07 at 3:28am
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Originally Posted by CarolPetunia View Post
That's the basis by which thinking people assess presidential candidates: what will this person do for the country -- or to it -- if he or she wins? And if anybody bases their vote on anything else, they don't deserve the privilege of voting in the first place.
I would agree with that, except for one thing. Thinking people will realize, that we don't know what any one of them can do for the country. Thinking people realize that we cannot believe one word that any of them say. They all only want one thing, a term in office. And once whichever one wins gets into office, all they are going to really want is the same thing that all the others wanted...another term in office.

Just how often have we gotten anything that was a campaign issue when it was all over? 50 mile-per-gallon cars? A chicken in every pot? Accountability for big oil? Smaller government? Gay marriage amendment? Withdrawal from Iraq? All promises, all broken. So if a person wants to vote for who is cutest, who has the best tie or the cutest pets, thats up to them, because it's beginning to look as thought its as good a system as any other.
post #46 of 58
10/22/07 at 4:08am
Well then, there should be a thorough investigation of all pet ownership habits of everyone of the candidates, R and D.

This is ridiculous, the republicans are really pulling at straws now, and I am not surprised some of you are jumping on the bandwagon.

They must be really afraid, they are So desperate to disparage Hilary.

I also want complete disclosure on personal hygiene as well.
post #47 of 58
10/22/07 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
give me a break! Clinton is not a cat dumper I myself have had to rehome a dog because of a life change ( I got divorced) and due to this dog having such severe separation anxiety had to be crated every moment I was not with her- in fact, she destroyed my couch while I was standing in my driveway. Being in a crate 20 hours a day was not fair to her at all, so I elected to rehome her. Does that make me a horrible pet owner? I agree with Jennifer, I think many of us have had to rehome a pet at one time or another for a myriad of reasons. Now if I would have taken that dog to the pound and said good riddance then yes, I would call myself a dumper, but I went back to the rescue I adopted her from AND fostered her until a suitable home was found.

Also, when my ex's and I's very first leukemia cat entered our lives, I was living with my parents and had a cat, but I obviously could not bring Delilah with me when I moved in with my BF and Jericho, so I left her at my parents, does that make me a dumper also?

my political views have nothing to do with my feelings on this either, my animal welfare views do, however, and to place Socks in a home where he is loved is NOT dumping, to call it such is ignorant
I also had to re-home Reilly about a year ago. (The Cat Brat's mom) she was allergic to Jake (the dog) and would attack him and her then kittens all the time. She would even attack the kids too. She's in a happy, kid-fre, dog-free home.

I don't see this as "dumping". I mean, when you foster animals then adopt them out, is that "dumping"? No. you're finding them a home
post #48 of 58
10/22/07 at 8:09am
I believe that I said that my definition of dumping is someone who: dumps their Pet when it becomes inconvenient.

I believe this is much different that the reasons for rehoming given here.

Did any of you dump an animal just cuz?
post #49 of 58
10/22/07 at 9:11am
but that article did not give a reason at all, so as far we know, there may have been a perfectly good reason. For example, the Clintons tend to travel quite a bit, and I believe Chelsea is not living at home? if this secretary was willnig ot gice Socks a more stable living environment, wouldn't that be in the best interest of the cat?

To be honest, I just read the article now to see if there was a reason given, and what a load of one-sided, put the spin that you want on it, pooh that article is
post #50 of 58
10/22/07 at 9:19am
Oh, for sure, travel, that is a great reason.

I think dumping for reasons of convenience is wrong, period, and I would think the same if anyone does it.

This was dug up on the Clintons, almost 8 years after the fact and dug up on Romney 14 years after the fact. But it doesn't change the facts IMO

IMO, the situations with the CLintons and Romneys show they have very little regard for their pets.
post #51 of 58
10/22/07 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
IMO, the situations with the CLintons and Romneys show they have very little regard for their pets.
Even if that were the case (and we don't know that for sure), it's still not something on which a person should base their vote.
post #52 of 58
10/22/07 at 10:12am
Socks was given to Betty Currie because he couldn't stand Buddy:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...urrie,%20Betty

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1109478.stm

I've had to rehome cats because of Jamie's antipathy regarding other cats: ZsaZsa went back to her original owners when they moved to Croatia, Miezi (a stray) is living two doors down, and visits every day, and Taco (a feral we trapped) is living one town over with a very nice couple and their other cat.
post #53 of 58
10/22/07 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Oh, for sure, travel, that is a great reason.
so having a cat that sits home by itself all the time is a great life for it then, eh? much better than being in a home where attention is lavished on him maybe its more convenient for the cat to be with Betty
post #54 of 58
10/22/07 at 11:28am
Personally, I would either: 1. take my animals with me, 2. stay home 3. find a family member or CLOSE friend take care of them until I got back (for brief vacations)

Socks, most likely, is better off. It doesn't change the fact that the Clinton's dumped him when no longer needed and had little regard for him IMO.
post #55 of 58
10/22/07 at 11:47am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Personally, I would either: 1. take my animals with me, 2. stay home 3. find a family member or CLOSE friend take care of them until I got back (for brief vacations)

Socks, most likely, is better off. It doesn't change the fact that the Clinton's dumped him when no longer needed and had little regard for him IMO.
Did you even read those links to archived stories I posted? The reason for rehoming Socks wasn't travel, but animosity between the cat and dog. The cat was stressed out because of the dog.

You could argue that they should have rehomed the dog because the cat had been there longer, but the cat was attached to Betty Currie, who could thus be called Sock's CLOSE friend.
post #56 of 58
10/22/07 at 11:55am
You know, I would give anything for someone to want Ophelia. Do you have any idea what's its like to watch the terror in the eyes of aother animals whenever she's in a room....fearing they'll be attacked for no particular reason?

No, it's not fair to keep her here. But, unlike Socks, she isn't adoptable. So, she stays here, in a less than ideal situation....but it's better than dead.

Would finding her another home make me an animal dumper, as she is quite inconvenient? I have to watch her around other animals, she's in my bedroom alone or with Dorian a lot....sleeps with me at night...
post #57 of 58
10/22/07 at 1:06pm
When I got my dog, who I found standing in the middle of the street, my cats did not like him one bit. They both were stressed and got cat "acne" on their chins for awhile. After awhile they all settled in and they grew to tolerate each other.

I guess I could have dumped that poor dog as he wasn't really mine to begin with, but I knew that he would not be adopted. But I kept him and supervision and time did the trick. I personally think SOME people give up to quickly.
There is nothing wrong with keeping animals separated IMO. I think it is fair to keep her there White Cat. But that is just my opinion.
post #58 of 58
10/22/07 at 1:17pm
As it seems that just about everything that can be said about this issue has already been posted, this thread is now being closed.
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