Is this a possible UTI?

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Hello. Recently my cat started peeing on the carpet next to my front door. I first thought she was doing this because of a tom that hangs around my apt sometimes. I first tried using citrus and repellent spray, and had zero luck with those products. Next I laid down tin foil, and that worked until I removed it, and then she went right back to peeing.

Just last night I installed a Feliaway plug-in, and I got a clear plastic chairmat and laid it across my entryway. Everything worked fine, until about 2am when I caught her peeing on the carpet in my bedroom.

Does this sound like a UTI? Or is this something else? Thank you.
 

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The first thing you should do when a cat is peeing inappropriately, is to see a vet to eliminate organic problems like UTIs.

After that has been addressed, clean the area with an enzyme cleaner like Nature's Miracle to thoroughly remove the smell. It may take several applications. In addition, there is a product called "Cat Attract" which is a special type of litter that really attracts cats to the litter box.
 
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Thank you, I scheduled an appointment at my vet for monday morning.
 

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I have exactly the same problem with my cat Felix. He has been peeing on my hall carpet - in various corners. I took him to the vet to rule out a UTI - which we have. The vet thinks it may just be a 'habit'.

I have used citrus sprays, cleaned the area, etc - it makes no difference. I have even cut the corner of carpet and placed it into his litter tray, then I caught him peeing in the other corner of the hall. Arghhhhhh

HELP!!!
 

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You MUST use an enzyme cleaner to clean up anything kitty pees on. We use Nok Out (http://www.nokout.com/odor.html) - in our experience it works much better than Nature's Miracle. But even with this sometimes we've had to apply it twice.

You must THOROUGHLY soak the area - down to the floorboards underneath. Cover the area with aluminum foil while it dries. If you've soaked it well enough it make take 2 - 3 days to dry depending on your carpet and humidity in your apartment.

Do buy the cat attract - it works. It's expensive and you need a fair amount of it, but if you can afford it, do it.

Next, invest in a cheap black light - they're available with batteries, which makes it easy. At night, investigate the hall and your apartment with it. Urine will show up as a yellow splotch. Make sure you get every spot.

The aluminum foil will discourage using the same spot.

But if kitty is peeing outside of the box and it's not a UTI (BTW - our Tuxedo did not have a UTI, but turned out there was a "cyst-like" bundle of crystals embedded in his bladder wall. The MRI at the vet wasn't strong enough to see it, and we had to take him to a specialist before this was found. It required surgery. But his problem was NOT a habit, and the surgery cured the problem. We then had to put him on a special diet), something is stressing him and you have to identify that problem.

Maybe he needs to be played with more. Add 10 minutes a day. Maybe he's seeing a cat out the window, and it's a territory thing. Invest in some Feliway spray. And the play will help diffuse the frustration.

This last time our Spooky had a peeing-outside-the-box problem, it turned out she was trying to tell us she was in pain. She had two bad teeth that needed to be removed, and when she had her dental, they discovered this. Funny thing - they removed the teeth, and she stopped peeing outside the box. So if he didn't have a full physical, maybe consider that. It could be a different problem, not just a UTI.

Maybe he doesn't like the litterbox? If it has a top, remove it. If it doesn't have a top, maybe try getting a box that does have one. In fact, I'd invest in another litter box anyway. Sometimes that alone solves the problem.

When Spook first had the problem because of stress, we put the litterbox where she kept peeing. We slowly moved it across the room to where we wanted it ( about 6 inches a day). It was a pain in the butt for a few weeks, but that worked.

Also, for avoidance of areas, you can try oil of olbas instead of citrus. Health food stores should carry it. Drop some on a teabag you've soaked in water, and put that out on the aluminum foil. Shouldn't need it more than a week or two.

Most importantly, remember that he's telling you something, not trying to anger you. You just have to keep trying different things until you discover the problem.

Many people are adverse to using mood altering drugs, and I understand why. On the other hand, if you reach the point you're at wits end, and you're absolutely certain you've ruled out any other health possibility, talk to your vet about using elavil. If it's truly a stress-related problem and you can't discover the source of the stress, a low-dose of elavil may help everyone find some relief.

Laurie
 
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Thank you Laurie.

I bought some Nature's Miracle earlier today and soaked the spot in my bedroom, I'm going to soak the areas around my front door next. I've scheduled a vet visit for Monday, and I'm gonna have them give her a full check-up.

She's had the same litter box for the last couple years, so I would expect that to not be a problem. I also did by some Feliway, but I'm not sure if that's working or not.
 

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losmonos, my reply was meant as much for sazza as for you, as sazza's vet already ruled out a UTI. I hope for your sake the problem is a UTI, because while your baby girl is uncomfortable and unhappy, it's the easiet solution for us as kitty guardians.


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I had the same problem with my new cat Tiger. He was peeing everywhere, but especially on paper, and in a house filled with books, (most of them in boxes on the floor while the basement was being repainted) this was definitely a problem. I got the cat litter called Cat Attract, and also ripped up some paper that he had peed on and put it in his litter box. It took a while, probably 2 weeks, but gradually he started using his litter box more and more. In the past 2 weeks he has had only 1 accident, compared to 1 or more a day, thats a huge improvement. Don't know which - the paper or the Cat Attract - did the trick, maybe both together, but as long as it worked I'm happy. Hope this helps, Jeanette
 

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Originally Posted by LDG

You MUST use an enzyme cleaner to clean up anything kitty pees on. We use Nok Out (http://www.nokout.com/odor.html) - in our experience it works much better than Nature's Miracle. But even with this sometimes we've had to apply it twice.

You must THOROUGHLY soak the area - down to the floorboards underneath. Cover the area with aluminum foil while it dries. If you've soaked it well enough it make take 2 - 3 days to dry depending on your carpet and humidity in your apartment.

Do buy the cat attract - it works. It's expensive and you need a fair amount of it, but if you can afford it, do it.

Next, invest in a cheap black light - they're available with batteries, which makes it easy. At night, investigate the hall and your apartment with it. Urine will show up as a yellow splotch. Make sure you get every spot.

The aluminum foil will discourage using the same spot.

But if kitty is peeing outside of the box and it's not a UTI (BTW - our Tuxedo did not have a UTI, but turned out there was a "cyst-like" bundle of crystals embedded in his bladder wall. The MRI at the vet wasn't strong enough to see it, and we had to take him to a specialist before this was found. It required surgery. But his problem was NOT a habit, and the surgery cured the problem. We then had to put him on a special diet), something is stressing him and you have to identify that problem.

Maybe he needs to be played with more. Add 10 minutes a day. Maybe he's seeing a cat out the window, and it's a territory thing. Invest in some Feliway spray. And the play will help diffuse the frustration.

This last time our Spooky had a peeing-outside-the-box problem, it turned out she was trying to tell us she was in pain. She had two bad teeth that needed to be removed, and when she had her dental, they discovered this. Funny thing - they removed the teeth, and she stopped peeing outside the box. So if he didn't have a full physical, maybe consider that. It could be a different problem, not just a UTI.

Maybe he doesn't like the litterbox? If it has a top, remove it. If it doesn't have a top, maybe try getting a box that does have one. In fact, I'd invest in another litter box anyway. Sometimes that alone solves the problem.

When Spook first had the problem because of stress, we put the litterbox where she kept peeing. We slowly moved it across the room to where we wanted it ( about 6 inches a day). It was a pain in the butt for a few weeks, but that worked.

Also, for avoidance of areas, you can try oil of olbas instead of citrus. Health food stores should carry it. Drop some on a teabag you've soaked in water, and put that out on the aluminum foil. Shouldn't need it more than a week or two.

Most importantly, remember that he's telling you something, not trying to anger you. You just have to keep trying different things until you discover the problem.

Many people are adverse to using mood altering drugs, and I understand why. On the other hand, if you reach the point you're at wits end, and you're absolutely certain you've ruled out any other health possibility, talk to your vet about using elavil. If it's truly a stress-related problem and you can't discover the source of the stress, a low-dose of elavil may help everyone find some relief.

Laurie
WOW! Thanks so much for all your info! Firstly, I can't seem to find NOKOUT or Cat attract in the UK?
I've added a new litterbox - different to our current one - he is still using the litter boxes (both of them, but is still occassionally using the carpet too). I have eucaplyptis (sp?) oil - will this do? I've also moved one of the littertrays tight to one of the spots where he likes to pee. I'm gonna go and get some foil now and put it in the corners (they like to play with foil, heres hoping they leave it alone!!!)

Thanks so much for all your help.
 

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Felix has been better recently, after I introduced another litter box, lifted the smelly carpet and put foil where he likes to pee.

However, just noticed he has done it yet again! I have used an enzyme cleaner called 'rug doctor' which is really just to get rid of odours.

Can anyone please recommend a proper enzyme cleaner I can get in UK (or delivered to UK)

Thanks!
 

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did you change any habits of yours? liek staying out late or going away? i went away fora few hours, normally home after work at 6pm, but one day i was gone til 2am, forgot to turn on a light or TV, and my cat peed on my bed two nights in a row.. went to the vet, no UTI, just behavioural. my cat got angry at me! once he peed on my bed, i got angry at him! so i started not letting him up on the bed, spraying him with water everytime he did.. now he no longer comes up, he knows he's not allowed, and he uses his box every time. not impressed with him at all, but he is learning. he is only a 4 month old persian kitten, so having him not on the bed is good when he gets poop on his bum anyways!
 

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The vet seemed to think it was just a 'habit'.

I'm pleased to say that Felix hasn't peed in the corner for a few days now!
I bought some feliway online, and I think this may help reinforce this. One day at a time!!!
 
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