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Congratulations to Mr Al Gore

post #1 of 39
10/12/07 at 11:31am
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On winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

I think it is fantastic the attention he has brought world wide to the cause of taking better care of the environment.
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post #2 of 39
10/12/07 at 11:41am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7042423.stm

Congratulations to him, and the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change!

Perhaps more people will get the message that environmental protection is crucial, and that they have to worry about more than their own lifestyles.
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post #3 of 39
10/12/07 at 11:47am
Good for him!!
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post #4 of 39
10/12/07 at 12:17pm
I'm so happy he won. It's about time.
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post #5 of 39
10/12/07 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7042423.stm

Congratulations to him, and the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change!

Perhaps more people will get the message that environmental protection is crucial, and that they have to worry about more than their own lifestyles.
I agree.

We bought a copy of his movie, and it recommends that you watch it and pass it on. He could have made more money from selling them, but it was more important to "recycle" it through informal distribution. I have no idea where our original copy has landed, as we passed it along months ago.

Isn't it interesting that the "Peace" prize was awarded for environmental issues?
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post #6 of 39
10/12/07 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
Isn't it interesting that the "Peace" prize was awarded for environmental issues?
That is interesting. I wonder what the rationale is? Why the Peace prize and not something in the science field?
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post #7 of 39
10/12/07 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by coaster View Post
That is interesting. I wonder what the rationale is? Why the Peace prize and not something in the science field?
The Nobel prizes are an odd lot. They've already awarded the scientific people earlier in the week, and it's done by subject: Medicine, Chemistry, Physics, Literature ect... the Peace prize is given out because of it's impact on people. Last year, a man won for creating micro-credit loans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcredit

If you are intrested in micro-credit here's an organization that does them, and shows their impact: http://www.kiva.org/
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post #8 of 39
10/12/07 at 5:11pm
Well, I guess the climate has an impact on people.
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post #9 of 39
10/12/07 at 6:15pm
Yep! He's a good ol' Tennessee boy!! But I never thought he's get a Nobel Peace Prize.....maybe a Congressional medal of honor or something of that sort. Way to go Al!!
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post #10 of 39
10/12/07 at 6:32pm
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Taterbug, only military people can win the Congressional Medal of Honor, it is for valor in COMBAT.
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post #11 of 39
10/12/07 at 6:37pm
Yeah, I know.I couldn't think of anything else! He is in combat with global warming tho, right?
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post #12 of 39
10/12/07 at 6:47pm
http://www.globalwarming.org/node/1143
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post #13 of 39
10/12/07 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
I've seen this list of 9 film errors before. Most have valid arguments about the claims that these were errors. In an attempt to make a film that was understandable to the general public, there were generalizations made that are now being argued as being false. If he had produced a movie that was 100% scientific in content, people would have simply fallen asleep after 10 minutes.

And do you realize that the concept of gravity has never been proven and it is still only a theory? And no one has yet to prove that there is a supreme being but don't tell a devout person that they are praying on a theory.

And the court claims that the movie is political in nature? Yeah, right! (not)
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post #14 of 39
10/12/07 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
And do you realize that the concept of gravity has never been proven and it is still only a theory?
I prove the theory of gravity over and over every time I trip and fall on my butt, and have the scars to prove it!!
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post #15 of 39
10/13/07 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
I've seen this list of 9 film errors before. Most have valid arguments about the claims that these were errors. In an attempt to make a film that was understandable to the general public, there were generalizations made that are now being argued as being false. If he had produced a movie that was 100% scientific in content, people would have simply fallen asleep after 10 minutes.

And do you realize that the concept of gravity has never been proven and it is still only a theory? And no one has yet to prove that there is a supreme being but don't tell a devout person that they are praying on a theory.

And the court claims that the movie is political in nature? Yeah, right! (not)
Just as a note to add to your post. The common use of the word theory and the scientific use of the word theory are completely different. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&d...ition&ct=title
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post #16 of 39
10/13/07 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by lookingglass View Post
. The common use of the word theory and the scientific use of the word theory are completely different.
Entirely true. That crossed my mind, too, but I didn't think I could explain it. It's been too long since college. Thanks for posting the link.

And here's from Merriam-Webster online dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory

definitions 1, 3, & 5 are closest to the use of the word in science; the closest paraphrase that covers all three would be something like: theory: an explanation of a set of facts.

As an example:

hypothesis: climate is changing more rapidly than can be accounted for by natural forces

facts: average temperature is increasing, sea and continental ice is melting, greenhouse gases are increasing, species are becoming extinct, weather is more extreme, etc etc

theory: greenhouse gases are associated with the known set of facts; mankind is emitting huge quantities of greenhouse gases; therefore mankind is causing (or at least a major contributor to) rapid climate change

I'm not sure I quite got the example correct; please correct me if I went wrong somewhere; it's still too hazy even after reading the explanations.
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post #17 of 39
10/13/07 at 10:33am
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Even though we may argue the cause, I think we all agree that humans need to take better care of the Earth than we are doing right now.

What would happen if the Rain Forest in South America vanishes. Or the Great Barrier Reef?

All the zillions of dollars going to find the cause of cancer, come on, we all know the cause of cancer. Clean up the air for crying out loud.

We are all to lazy though, we want our cake and eat it too.
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post #18 of 39
10/13/07 at 11:08am
Oh no!!!! Don't tell me cake causes global warming, too!! I hope ice cream is OK.
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post #19 of 39
10/13/07 at 12:05pm
Congratulations Mr Al Gore! that is fantastic
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post #20 of 39
10/13/07 at 8:15pm
imo gore did nothing to earn it, did he do the research no, did he make the move no, did he put the junk science in the movie maybe did he cure a sickenss no cause peace to happen no.


there where other people on the list that should have gotten the award over him
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post #21 of 39
10/13/07 at 8:17pm
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Even though we may argue the cause, I think we all agree that humans need to take better care of the Earth than we are doing right now.

What would happen if the Rain Forest in South America vanishes. Or the Great Barrier Reef?

All the zillions of dollars going to find the cause of cancer, come on, we all know the cause of cancer. Clean up the air for crying out loud.

We are all to lazy though, we want our cake and eat it too.
of course we should, But do you need someone that does not follow what they preach. i know i dont.

he should give the award back, and let go to someone that really did something
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post #22 of 39
10/14/07 at 8:20am
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I think the others that DID do the work just had no star power like Gore. We can't argue the fact that Gore did bring much attention to sad state of the environment.
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post #23 of 39
10/14/07 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
imo gore did nothing to earn it, did he do the research no, did he make the move no, did he put the junk science in the movie maybe did he cure a sickenss no cause peace to happen no.


there where other people on the list that should have gotten the award over him
I suppose you haven't read "Earth in Balance", either? He published it back in 2000. http://www.amazon.com/s/002-8081356-...Mozilla-search

Do you really believe that droughts leading to famines, undernourishment, and no access to potable water won't lead to even more wars? More illegal immigration? What do you think led to the situation in Darfur?
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post #24 of 39
10/14/07 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I think the others that DID do the work just had no star power like Gore. We can't argue the fact that Gore did bring much attention to sad state of the environment.

So you award the PR man vs people that really did something?
no thanks.
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post #25 of 39
10/14/07 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
I suppose you haven't read "Earth in Balance", either? He published it back in 2000. http://www.amazon.com/s/002-8081356-...Mozilla-search

Do you really believe that droughts leading to famines, undernourishment, and no access to potable water won't lead to even more wars? More illegal immigration? What do you think led to the situation in Darfur?

i saw it, but did not read it, Sorry i am just buying into the whole al gore thing.
i dont beleve he is legit.

As for Darfur, you have muslim(being supplied from iran) killing evenone else.
you have ethic groups who want to kill each, and you have to many people.
for limited resources. now if al gore had made peace in darfur, then i would say he did something good and give him the award.
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post #26 of 39
10/14/07 at 7:16pm
Bruce, the award did not just go to Al Gore. It was awarded to him and the IPCC. Several hundred scientists who did a great deal of work. And the prize money that Al Gore won for the award he is donating to charity.

Whatever way you look at it - and I know you won't agree because you are stubbornly refusing to see any good in the man - he has done a very great deal to bring about people's awareness of climate change and responsibility for our earth. For those of us that feel climate change is man's responsibility to solve, this is very important.

Of course it was an agenda-driven award - I would like to see what Nobel peace prize isn't, when you get down to the nitty-gritty - and perhaps it was more of a token effort to reward the man for doing some really very good work in this field - and for introducing climate change to several million people in a way that they can understand and interpret on their own.

He has not done this on his own - he is a spokesperson and a driving force behind global awareness of this issue. And that is why he was not awarded the Prize solely for himself, and it is why he is not keeping any of the prize money.

Give the guy a break, for goodness' sake.
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post #27 of 39
10/14/07 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post

Give the guy a break, for goodness' sake.
i am giving him break. it should go to someone who did something,not a PR man. other people on the list would have been a better choice.
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post #28 of 39
10/14/07 at 7:26pm
Did you not read what I said? The award did not just go to him.
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post #29 of 39
10/14/07 at 7:29pm
also, if the Nobel Prize committee decided to give it to him, who are we to argue with that? They are a panel of experts, I'm not going to disagree with the
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post #30 of 39
10/14/07 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Did you not read what I said? The award did not just go to him.
then take off his name.

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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
also, if the Nobel Prize committee decided to give it to him, who are we to argue with that? They are a panel of experts, I'm not going to disagree with the

lol katie, one thing about experts is , they dont know as much as they think they know. lets take a look at past winners,,

international atomic energy agency and mohamed elbaradei, nice group, there since they are now kinda suporting iran having nukes.

the kofi annan-and the UN now there was joke, i did not know you could get a award for taking kick backs.

yasser arafat- now there was a real peace makers

jimmy carter who allowed north korea to get nukes

le duc tho, who had the common sense to refuse it

and some other famous people that got nominated in the past, hilter and stalin. the award is a joke.
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