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post #1 of 19
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And I am not just talking about the quality of their music (although that rules too!)
http://www.time.com/time/arts/articl...666973,00.html

It might not be possible for all music to be released like that, but I think the record companies are overcharging for music and Radiohead is really giving them a well-deserved slap in the face.

I don't buy music very often anymore, but I'll buy that album for sure! (and yes, I'll give them some money for it)
post #2 of 19
I totally agree. I've loved Radiohead since the day they were 'born'. I have all their albums and look forward to the new one. Thom Yorke has strong views on stuff and promotes them very well.

Yay for Radiohead
post #3 of 19
Not a radiohead fan at all.. but I agree that more bands need to take power away from the large controlling labels.
Most can't because they need the labels for funding their tours or to help get them onto tours with other bands. Lucky for radiohead, they're an established band that can afford to do this.
For other bands, not buying their cds really hurts them. Labels will drop a band for low cd sells or not pay for their tours. Other times a band will only be able to tour a few cities. While they make little from the sales it does determine their future.

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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
It might not be possible for all music to be released like that, but I think the record companies are overcharging for music and Radiohead is really giving them a well-deserved slap in the face.
This may be a viable argument for those that live in other countries, but for those in the US it's ridiculous to claim that cds still cost too much. If a person knows how to shop they can get brand new cds for $5-$10. How much less should they cost?


On a side note, there are plenty of independent bands that sell their cds from their own sites or through distributors like CD Baby. If you want more bands like this to make it, go to their shows and buy their cds.
post #4 of 19
Distribution is slowly being taken away from the record labels and they know it.

I used to buy a lot of CDs, but now I'm very leery of buying them because of the DRM fiascos. I don't want them messing up my computer. It doesn't stop the hackers and it causes problems for the legit buyers.
post #5 of 19
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I used to buy a lot of CDs, but now I'm very leery of buying them because of the DRM fiascos. I don't want them messing up my computer. It doesn't stop the hackers and it causes problems for the legit buyers.
Are you referring to Sony's rootkit garbage back in 2005? Bad PR and class action lawsuits took care of that, it's not being done to their cds anymore.
For the most part dvds are copy protected more than cds, I even have some that do not want to play on a pc (Sony/BMG.. go figure).

Though if anyone is truly worried about DRM, stop using Windows. Thoroughly read your rights agreement that you had to agree to when installing it if you don't know what I'm referring to.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
Are you referring to Sony's rootkit garbage back in 2005? Bad PR and class action lawsuits took care of that, it's not being done to their cds anymore.
For the most part dvds are copy protected more than cds, I even have some that do not want to play on a pc (Sony/BMG.. go figure).

Though if anyone is truly worried about DRM, stop using Windows. Thoroughly read your rights agreement that you had to agree to when installing it if you don't know what I'm referring to.
But it is very difficult to find if the CD is DRM UNTIL you have already opened the CD and then you're stuck.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
But it is very difficult to find if the CD is DRM UNTIL you have already opened the CD and then you're stuck.
It's not difficult at all actually, read reviews on amazon and review sites. If the cd has annoying copy protection on it you can pretty much be certain someone has complained.
Another option is to try to avoid cds on labels that have used copy protection in the past until you know whether they do or not. In some cases, you may have to spend a couple dollars more, but you can get the same album but printed from another label.
EMI is one to look out for, btw.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
It's not difficult at all actually, read reviews on amazon and review sites. If the cd has annoying copy protection on it you can pretty much be certain someone has complained.
Another option is to try to avoid cds on labels that have used copy protection in the past until you know whether they do or not. In some cases, you may have to spend a couple dollars more, but you can get the same album but printed from another label.
EMI is one to look out for, btw.
Which is why I haven't bought CDs. Too much work.
post #9 of 19
lol copy protection is a waste of time, There will always be people like me(not that i ever did that) who can break any copy protection that is placed on a computer.

There have been several bands over the last few years have started selling there music downloads. Which i support fully. Anything that can by pass crop controlled music is fine with me.
post #10 of 19
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal about them today. According to the article its only costing Radiohead $3.40 to make the CD and the down load is $10 so they are making out okay.
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by GailC View Post
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal about them today. According to the article its only costing Radiohead $3.40 to make the CD and the down load is $10 so they are making out okay.
I couldn't get the whole article online, but the $10 is the average that people are paying for the album, it's not the required price.
Do they say what it is that costs $3.40? Is it the cost they pay for each download? (I find that a little expensive if that's the case)

Still it seems like this way of "selling" music could be a viable options for bands who don't want (or don't have) a record deal.
post #12 of 19
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7029229.stm

i hope some day the record compaines go out of business.
post #13 of 19
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Quote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7029229.stm

i hope some day the record compaines go out of business.
Wow. the record companies are really becoming desperate. It's despicable that they would use that poor woman to try to instill fear in others.

For me, that really does it. I was starting to feel bad before about having "shared" music on my computer, but not anymore.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by marie-p View Post
I couldn't get the whole article online, but the $10 is the average that people are paying for the album, it's not the required price.
Do they say what it is that costs $3.40? Is it the cost they pay for each download? (I find that a little expensive if that's the case)

Still it seems like this way of "selling" music could be a viable options for bands who don't want (or don't have) a record deal.
I would venture a guess that that's what they are figuring based on what the initial pressing probably would have been (i.e. 200,000 units) including the production and recording/studio costs, but excluding the cost of actual pressing of the CD as well as the hosting, download, costs.

Honestly, I don't think this is a viable option for any band that hasn't already proven itself and has a decent national and international fan base. Yes, people are still willing to pay $10 for a Radiohead CD, but would you pay that much for a band you aren't familiar with? Unless there is a label behind a band initially to push their music with radio/tv stations, they won't go too far. Ask the local bands in your area who have been playing for years without label support. They don't make any money, and they rarely get a real following outside of the local area no matter how much their online presence.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE that Radiohead is doing this! Heck, I'm tempted to download it and pay them even though I don't really like their music. RIAA are evil, money grubbing who can't admit that their own industry is the reason they aren't making as much music (i.e. their choices for new artists - there hasn't been a real new sound coming from the labels in years. The sound and music is stale and blech for the most part. But we're all just supposed to keep buying this tripe because they produce albums...whatever.)
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
. But we're all just supposed to keep buying this tripe because they produce albums...whatever.)
well they keep saying the resaon music sales keep going down is file sharing,
i thikn the reason it keeps going down is that they keep putting out different version of spears, new kids on the block etc...
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
well they keep saying the resaon music sales keep going down is file sharing,
i thikn the reason it keeps going down is that they keep putting out different version of spears, new kids on the block etc...
Exactly - I haven't bought a new CD in ages because there is nothing worth getting excited about.
post #17 of 19
If we thought the RIAA was bad, check out what is happening in Briton:

\t\t\t\t\tKwik-Fit sued over staff radios. Basically they are being accused of copyright infringement for playing radios where other people can hear them.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
If we thought the RIAA was bad, check out what is happening in Britain:

Kwik-Fit sued over staff radios. Basically they are being accused of copyright infringement for playing radios where other people can hear them.
Now, I really find that insane. You have to pay license fees in Britain (and Germany) http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/key...cencefee.shtml
and that, IMO, should cover anybody within hearing/viewing range.
post #19 of 19
I love their music!
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