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post #1 of 28
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7010839.stm
I'm thrilled about it, but really fear the junta will react violently.
post #2 of 28
I think the govt doesn't know what to do. First the monks are barred from the Shwedagon Pagoda and then allowed. Probably the most intriguing part of it is that the monks were actually allowed on the the street where Aung San Suu Kyi lives. She even was able to talk to them. They can't crush the monks without severe global condemnation and loss of trade with China.
post #3 of 28
I think the Dalai Lama is such a wonderful man. Doubled the fuel price in an impoverished nation? That is horrible.
All those monks should be in all of our prayers.
post #4 of 28
It really takes a lot of courage to build a nonviolent movement against a potentially violent government. I hope that those monks / nuns and laypeople can keep things going.

If you want to make a small gesture of support, here's a petition:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/stand_with_b...CLICK_TF_TRACK
post #5 of 28
I am watching this with hope that the current "government" in Burma doesn't do anything rash or horrible, but I don't think that's going to happen.

The Burmese people's elected leader has been under house arrest since 1990, and I'd celebrate the day that she is able to walk out her front door and lead her country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi

I'm watching this very closely to see what happens. If the military does attack these monks the World needs to know about it.
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post #7 of 28
The situation is not good there - they've imposed curfews and the army is moving in.
post #8 of 28
Prayers for the MONKS and their safety
post #9 of 28
I really hope that violence wont be used. If the protests keep growing, the government will feel increasingly threatened and I really fear what a violent and desperate government is capable of.
International pressure is vital to keep protesters safe. I pray that nonviolence will win out.
post #10 of 28
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The crackdown has begun, with reports of between one and five monks killed:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7013638.stm
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_New...otesters/3790/
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
The crackdown has begun, with reports of between one and five monks killed:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7013638.stm
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_New...otesters/3790/


I don't know what to say. Part of me wants the people to keep protesting and finally overthrow that government... but I fear the consequences of a continued confrontation.

I pray that the international pressure can keep the military government from repeating the 1988 massacre and that the people of Burma be free of fear and suffering.
post #12 of 28
Yea have been reading it, i am kinda shocked the goverment there has not started there crack down before now
post #13 of 28
I don't watch the news very often and the first I heard about it is through this thread.

Those news articles are very long. Can someone please provide a brief summary about what the Monks are protesting?
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
I don't watch the news very often and the first I heard about it is through this thread.

Those news articles are very long. Can someone please provide a brief summary about what the Monks are protesting?
Well, it's complex. The "government" in Burma is a military junta, and have run the country even though the people elected a leader many years ago. When she was elected she was promptly put under house arrest and not allowed to lead. The military then gives out rations to all the people forcing them to pay their predetermined cost for everything. A few weeks ago they doubled the cost of gas, making it almost impossible for anyone to be able to afford it. The Monks are protesting the cost increase, but in the same breath they are also demanding a democracy in their country. They are sick of the way the government rules and they want their voices heard.

The government of Burma has also cut itself off to any outsider. So most of the pictures and video that you see coming out of the country is being taken by people that have either somehow gotten in or by the people themselves. So when you see video of Monks getting beaten just know the person who took that video is also putting their life at great risk. Nothing comes out of that country with out government say so.

I hope someone else comes along and adds more to this. It's a heart breaking story.
post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by lookingglass View Post
Well, it's complex. The "government" in Burma is a military junta, and have run the country even though the people elected a leader many years ago. When she was elected she was promptly put under house arrest and not allowed to lead.

I was listening to the news the other night while I was cooking and I BELIEVE that they said when the protests started that the Government went in, took her off of house arrest and put her in prison.
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by Graciecat View Post
I was listening to the news the other night while I was cooking and I BELIEVE that they said when the protests started that the Government went in, took her off of house arrest and put her in prison.
That wouldn't shock me. If they attempt to over throw the government most likely they military will threaten to kill her.
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by Graciecat View Post
I was listening to the news the other night while I was cooking and I BELIEVE that they said when the protests started that the Government went in, took her off of house arrest and put her in prison.
if i remember right she been locked up for 18 years,
post #18 of 28
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if i remember right she been locked up for 18 years,
She wasn't even allowed to collect her Peace Prize. Her son, who lives in London, had to accept in on her behalf.
post #19 of 28
Apparently soldiers opened fire and killed 94 people.
post #20 of 28
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Apparently soldiers opened fire and killed 94 people.
The reports I've seen today say nine or ten deaths have been confirmed by official news outlets there. There have probably been far more: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/28/wo...nted=1&_r=1&hp

Internet connections have been capped, so not as much news is getting out.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_New...n_yangon/4956/
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
Apparently soldiers opened fire and killed 94 people.


The government has also apparently cut internet service so information going through might be very limited.

I just watched the video that leaked of the army shooting into the crowd of protesters as they ran away. It's hard to believe that awful things like that are happening right now.

post #22 of 28
Seems like things may have quieted down.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7019556.stm
But I don't think that's the end of the problem... not as long as the military government remains in place.
post #23 of 28
Those monks have so much courage. 18 years imprisoned, that is horrible.
post #24 of 28
Check this out. Sylvester Stallone just got back from there, he was there for 6 months shooting Rambo IV. See what HE has to say about the poor people of Burma.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071001/D8S0LED00.html



I always thought is was strangely coincidental that shortly after shooting
Rambo III (very shortly after) the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan.
I sure hope something is done for these poor people in Burma.
post #25 of 28
Any further news about this?
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
Any further news about this?
None in the mainstream media that I've been able to trust.

A few days ago the "government" of Burma decided to raise the price of TV access over 1000% for all of it's citizens. Most of them will go media dark in the next few days.
post #27 of 28
China is in the best position to put international pressure on them and it isn't interested. So the international community has little influence on Myanmar at the present.
post #28 of 28
http://www.freshnews.in/hillary-othe...-myanmar-17169

This happened in October and I don't know if it has any effect. It made me feel better to think some of American's representatives were trying to help.

Burma's biggest trading partner seems to be China. Perhaps there is some leverage there since the Chinese want to look good in the upcoming Beijing Olympics.
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