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post #1 of 29
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http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14132485/detail.html


I have no words. At least they got him
post #2 of 29
What's worse is that obviously he's done this before. And there's obviously parents out there willing to do this.

I saw a show on A&E about pedophile sting operations, and while it was good to see these perverts taken off the street, some of the things they showed - how they enticed them (including a sting like this one) - were just stomach turning. I don't know how these officers do it. How they can be convincing online, or how they don't just stomp these perverts into the dirt when they catch them.
post #3 of 29
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SO vile, it turned my stomach.
post #4 of 29
That part where he told the detective that he's "done it plenty" just made my heart sink.

All those babies, wherever they are

I don't see how sting officers keep themselves from just shooting those monsters as soon as they walk into sight.
post #5 of 29
I don't often read anything that causes a physical reaction of nausea and revulsion, but this sure did it. Yeah, at least he's `gentle'
post #6 of 29
I'm beginning to think that there is some sort of pedophile ring happening here in Detroit. Usually about 1-2 people are reported as being arrested everyday on pedophile charges. Like most other places they keep the court results quiet except the big ones.

Now one person is coming from out of state? that just adds to my theory.
post #7 of 29
How awful! I remember how horrified I was to discover that the same thing recently happened here in Perth - a lawyer was found guilty of having literally hundreds of thousands of images of child pornography on his computer, and lots of other related things. It exposed a large, organised international paedophile ring.

My brother just put this man in jail, actually. He got him to confess on the stand during cross-examination. He said it was one of the `most satisfying moments of his legal career'. So there are SOME good lawyers out there.
post #8 of 29
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The prosecutors are good guys. The defense lawyers are slime.
post #9 of 29
Amen to that. We have a patient who is a defense lawyer. He saw my surname and asked me if I was any relation to my brother (lol) who he termed as `the enemy'. Needless to say, I was not amused. My brother is quite well known in Perth because he prosecutes sex crimes (mostly child sex) and also organised / gang-related crimes. `The enemy' indeed
post #10 of 29
Your brother's job might be satisfying, but I don't know if I could stomach it. Dealing with all that every day. I can't even imagine what all he has seen and heard. Bless him and work he does. I really, really mean that.
post #11 of 29
Thank you

It has changed him a lot. He's been doing it for 20 years now, and he has become much more serious and, kind of, quieter, than he was before. He doesn't seem to have such a spring in his step as the years have gone by. Don't get me wrong, it hasn't wrecked him, but in the course of prosecuting a paedophile (for example) he has to examine ALL the evidence - oftentimes which involves watching videos of the crimes, seeing photos, always interviewing the victim if they are still alive - and interviewing a 2-year-old about her father regularly raping her (for example) is NOT pretty - and there's worse that I can't even begin to guess at.

I went to visit him in the office after-hours once, and I overhead him on the phone to the police commissioner, discussing a police officer he was prosecuting, who had been accused of raping a three- and two-year-old regularly over a period of 12 months. I almost died, but that's my brother's daily life.

Mum asked him once a few years ago if he thought he might need some counselling, because of the things he has seen and gone through, and he agreed that he was sure he needed counselling, but he didn't think he could cope with going through it all again, when he thought he had it pretty much nicely buried somewhere deep inside where he locks away all of the terrible things he's seen.

I can't tell you the respect I have for him - he is widely respected in our city as a lawyer, but as a person, I know of nobody I look up to more. In fact, when I was very young, I wasn't able to put into words how it felt to respect someone until I realised that was the feeling I got every time I thought of my brother. And that hasn't changed. He's my hero, and not just mine, but all the innocent little victims and families he has helped feel the same way.

But I agree, Telynn, I couldn't do it either. That's why I'm glad we have people like him.
post #12 of 29
That man should be tortured before he's killed.
post #13 of 29
I'd like to comment but, I'm afraid that it would ALL be censored. Suffice it, to say, that I have visions of rusty sheep shears and a soldering iron.
post #14 of 29
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I'd like to comment but, I'm afraid that it would ALL be censored. Suffice it, to say, that I have visions of rusty sheep shears and a soldering iron.
We had a judge locally that was charged
post #15 of 29
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I'd like to comment but, I'm afraid that it would ALL be censored. Suffice it, to say, that I have visions of rusty sheep shears and a soldering iron.
I think our imaginations stretch that far!
post #16 of 29
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You need to pray for people like that, on a regular basis, it helps, believe me, it helps.
post #17 of 29
I saw that

I just don't understand people like him

Dateline has sting operations targeting internet predators. There was one episode where some high ranking law official, maybe a judge or prosecutor (?) made contact and arranged to meet a "12 year old". He ended up not showing up, but the intent was there and they were able to trace him to his home. Apparently he got word that the police were coming for him and he shot himself before he could be arrested. I guess his dirty little secret was finally out and he couldn't live with people knowing what a sick person he was.
post #18 of 29
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Bless your brother's heart Sarah.
post #19 of 29
There's always the man was lying about having done it before many times. Maybe he was just trying to reassure a nervous mother. Anyway, I'm holding on to that hope, for my own peace of mind.
post #20 of 29
Sarah, your brother is my hero.

I'm glad they caught this guy before he could hurt anyone else. I'll never understand what goes through the minds of these people who prey on children, I don't know if I even want to know. IMO, these are the lowest forms of life on the planet.
post #21 of 29
Whoah, how awful! Can't believe this guy from my state that I live in would even think about a 5 year old! And can you imagine what his wife must have thought once she found this out about her husband?!
post #22 of 29
I heard on the news that the guy tried to kill himself by hanging with the bedsheets in the jail. A guard found him and stopped him.

*callous statement ahead*

Now why didn't he do that BEFORE he raped children?

*end callous statement*

I do feel for his wife, if she didn't know. I hope she didn't know, but stranger things have been known to happen. I mean, they have children together. He was involved in children's sports. I bet the whole community where he lived is in shock and horrified, especially those with little girls that he had contact with.
post #23 of 29
I didnt even read it... that's sick.
post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by katie=^..^= View Post
There's always the man was lying about having done it before many times. Maybe he was just trying to reassure a nervous mother. Anyway, I'm holding on to that hope, for my own peace of mind.
You don't just suddenly wake up, one morning and say, "Gee, I think I'll have sex with a five-year-old" and start trolling the Internet. He probably HAS done this before.
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post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Boo Hooo...the scum's dead. Now we don't have to pay to house him or prosecute him. He actually did a good thing for everyone concerned.
post #27 of 29
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What a coward. I don't normally say things like that about a suicide, but in this case, he decided to take the easy way out of the punishment that wasn't even going to be what he really deserved.

I feel for his wife, if she didn't know, although if he were my husband and I found that out I don't know if I'd be sad that he was dead.
post #28 of 29
I know it's amazing how the cops can act conniving to catch these people, but how lucky we are that they are willing to pretend so that we can catch them. SICKOS!!!!!
post #29 of 29
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That man should be tortured before he's killed.
I agree 100%. That's horrible. And even more horrible that there are parents out there who'd offer their kids off to a pedophile for sex. Ugh.
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