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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
This book has 2,348 customer reviews and counting.

"Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About"

Notice very carefully the 'star rtings'--most are either 5 star or 1 star



http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Cures-...0046273&sr=8-1

What do you think?
post #2 of 21
Well, I don't follow pop culture at all, haven't read any of his books or heard anything about him; but I do agree with any hypothesis or theory that postulates that there is a link between the pharmaceutical/biomedical empire and the governments and governmental agencies that profit hugely from them. That's not a theory -- it's a FACT.
post #3 of 21
That is Shocking!
Someone who preys on sick and vulnerable people is the lowest of the low. Sure good diet, exercise, and natural remedies etc can be good, but to dupe people into thinking they're miracle cures is just wrong!
post #4 of 21
To address what ddcats said about the 2,348+ reviews. Yes, I'm sure that a lot of the 5 star reviews are fake. What better way to run a scam then to pay a couple people to write up some fake reviews and make multiple accounts to post them from?
post #5 of 21
And they all say really similar things!
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by cata_mint View Post
That is Shocking!
Someone who preys on sick and vulnerable people is the lowest of the low. Sure good diet, exercise, and natural remedies etc can be good, but to dupe people into thinking they're miracle cures is just wrong!
Just the opposite my dear, just the opposite.


The following story is about Abraham Cherrix. They took him to court because they wanted him to have chemo, he did not want chemo. The state won and he is alive today because he refused chemo.

http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthursto...m_cherrix.html
post #7 of 21
It is a crock ... fraud ... I bought it and RETURNED it ... All the info was either common sense or no way you could live that way... This guy come to find outs last job was promoting real eastate stuff infomercials
post #8 of 21
He also had radiation treatment.
http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...987&ran=139405
Its not that i don't think they can't work, its when they are presented by people like the author of the amazon book in a way that rubbishes proven medical practise, for unverified treatment that they basically guarantee will provide a cure.
The Hoxsey stuff seems dodgy, no authenticated case studies of it working. And some severe side-effects.
http://documents.cancer.org/6516.00/
post #9 of 21
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Anything can have side effects if taken in large doses or not taken in proper doses. Prescription drugs have tons of side effects, so doesn't chemo.

IMHO, I trust herbal treatments first. There is an herb for every aliment to man - see Bible.
post #10 of 21
I know. It makes you ill to the point that basically the only thing worse is dying from cancer. But alternatives are usually offered as a pain-free 'safe' treatment.
I don't think there is a herbal cure for something like AIDS, but otherwise i believe there are plenty of 'natural' cures that we haven't found yet. Much of modern medicine is a concentrated from of something naturally found. I'm not religious at all, but i think that 'god' helps those who help themselves, and that modern medicine has provided many more benefits than drawbacks.
post #11 of 21
There are many natural and alternative therapies that do work, and some that don't. Similar to conventional medicine. Some therapies work and some don't. But as far as any evil, dark conspiracy to purposely undermine the health of the nation's people so as to create a market to sell products and services.....on, come on now!! If something like that were true, too many people would have to know about it, and someone would have spilled the beans by now.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by coaster View Post
There are many natural and alternative therapies that do work, and some that don't. Similar to conventional medicine. Some therapies work and some don't. But as far as any evil, dark conspiracy to purposely undermine the health of the nation's people so as to create a market to sell products and services.....on, come on now!! If something like that were true, too many people would have to know about it, and someone would have spilled the beans by now.

Can you count how many drug commercials come on TV in 30 minutes?

How many are in magazines, coupon ads, billboards, stadiums, newspapers, radio, etc.

Do you ever see advertisements for alternative medicine?

What about our pets being over-vaccinated?

Do you think someone in that white doctors get-up REALLY cares about you? Does he ask you what do you eat, what were you doing during the course of the illness, do you have any stress or problems that could be related to your illness? NO, he just writes up a prescription and YOU are off to the pharmacy.

What about finding the CURE rather than just treating symptoms?

Don't get me wrong, conventional medicine has it's place in society. But there are other methods also that work and not only do they work, they CURE that are NEVER MENTIONED in the media.
post #13 of 21
I didn't read through everything, but IMO, some authors that publish things start off on the right path but try to oversell their book by promising miracle cures.

Pretty soon someone that does believe in this book will try all sorts of things this guy listed, which may or may not work, but either find themselves in the hospital due to severe illness or suppressing the illness. It's sort of like that Mango Juice...promises cures for anything from depression to diabetes, etc. I just look at it as suppressing the illness.

Our bodies are unique to each of us. Our stomachs do not process everything the same way. So a remedy to prevent a cold (Echinecea for example) may work wonders for one person, but doesn't effect another. It's all body chemistry.
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by ddcats View Post
Can you count how many drug commercials come on TV in 30 minutes?

How many are in magazines, coupon ads, billboards, stadiums, newspapers, radio, etc.

Do you ever see advertisements for alternative medicine?

What about our pets being over-vaccinated?

Do you think someone in that white doctors get-up REALLY cares about you? Does he ask you what do you eat, what were you doing during the course of the illness, do you have any stress or problems that could be related to your illness? NO, he just writes up a prescription and YOU are off to the pharmacy.

What about finding the CURE rather than just treating symptoms?

Don't get me wrong, conventional medicine has it's place in society. But there are other methods also that work and not only do they work, they CURE that are NEVER MENTIONED in the media.
I agree with all that. It's just because medicine is a business. Money is the motivating factor. It's not some evil conspiracy to deprive us all of our health.

I think allowing drug companies to advertise was a huge mistake by the FDA and should be revoked. Marketing makes up a significant portion of the cost of medication. Not to mention increasing health care expenses because everyone wants the advertised drug, which may or may not be the best for the illness.

As far as alternative medicine -- the efforts by the FDA to regulate (and repress) it are just a grab for more power and more money for the government bureacracy. Just give me all the facts and let me make up my own mind. I'm capable of making my own choices. All I need to know are the pros and the cons and the risk factors. As long as I have the truth, that's all I want the government to ensure. But maybe that's asking too much.
post #15 of 21
He's a con artist
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
He's a con artist
I recall seeing a story on Dateline or 20/20 about the author, he is indeed a fraud. The story can be seen here http://skepdic.com/trudeau.html
post #17 of 21
I've read and seen shows debunking this guy as a fraud before. The FTC has taken action about other things he's done in the past:http://www.quackwatch.org/02Consumer...s/trudeau.html

I've read parts of his book and the one thing that stuck out was to wear all white because it would make you feel better and cause your depression to lift.

However, if one is seeking "natural" cures for something a diet high in fruit and veggies, limiting high fat foods and processed sugar, and light exercise once a day for 20 minutes really will do the trick.
post #18 of 21
Kevin Trudeau is the King of misinformation! He has been sued for misrepresentation on more than one occasion. the most recent by the FTC just this month.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,7989633.story

I wouldn't put much stock into what he has to say.
post #19 of 21
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I've read and seen shows debunking this guy as a fraud before.

That is the ideal word to describe him
post #20 of 21
do a search on the author - it is very well documented that he is a scam artist. He has gotten in trouble before, is banned from marketing certain products, so then he comes up with a new one that is another scam.

I saw a great document that compared a transcript from 20/20 (I think) of Trideau's quotes, and debunked most of them.

Please dont give this man anymore money.
post #21 of 21
Scamtastic...

His first book was banned by the FDA for being so misinforming that it was actually harming people's health. The second one sells itself on the basis of that; that the things in his book are so awesome that the people he's accusing of having a conspiracy don't want it on the shelf.

Watch the guy sometime. He's on tv all the time, on whatever channel it is the 700 club is on (the cheap public access one). They have all kinds of crackpots on there with the same story. It's all a big infomercial.

If it actually worked, we wouldn't be first hearing about it from this guy. People do need to educate themselves better about nutrition in general, but there isn't one food out there that can singularly cure cancer.
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